I'm not sure what you mean. Unfufilled promises in a party manifesto? What's new. Unless you think Labour will deliver on every promise they've made in this one, because they won't. We all know that.
there are lies regarding public spending in the first few paragraphs of the 2010. tory manifesto. Or maybe I've got that wrong and it's just my political illiteracy at play.
Does anyone ever have their views changed because of a campaign? It all seems a waste of time to me all this door knocking and kissing babies. Most people's views are pretty entrenched (this forum confirms that) so are they really changed because they see a Tory leader visit a hospital or a Labour leader visit a factory? The debates have just revealed how politicians dare not have principles and have been coached to bang out a party line whenever they are questioned. If anything, we get to see how incompetent most of them are so it's self-defeating and diminishes them in the eyes of the electorate.
I read somewhere that around a fifth of the electorate have already voted by post so none of this recent stuff has any influence for them. (I sent off my postal vote a week ago). Seems a tremendous amount of time and money is spent on this and if instead they just all agreed to publish their manifestos for us to examine and perhaps gone over forensically by independent experts to report on, we would still be in the same terrible position but at least without the circus of lies and waste of millions.
Surely it is good for the environment? You know...recycling our MPs lolThe whole system needs a shake-up.
If we had some sort of proportional replacement system I would vote Green.
Wasted vote on Thursday though.
That's your MP? Hay Ho? Rachel Hayho Flint?Same here Otis. I do in local and EU (ha!) elections, and want to vote for them in this one - but I live in a marginal seat, and Johnson and his cronies have pissed me off so much that I am going all so called tactical (which is pretty negative really). Hay ho
The whole system needs a shake-up.
If we had some sort of proportional replacement system I would vote Green.
Wasted vote on Thursday though.
Ensuring the environment is enhanced to support social and economic growth. The more its trashed , the poorer in social terms we are (including health, think air quality, more heat/flood event), the more it costs for food (more imports,less local supply), the more its costs business and infrastructure providers to be resilient. Increased cost of water supply and treatment increases for example.What's their policies other than the climate out of interest?
I've had a brief read, seems mainly environment and benefits. Not much on the economy, security etc.
I'm not sure what you mean. Unfufilled promises in a party manifesto? What's new. Unless you think Labour will deliver on every promise they've made in this one, because they won't. We all know that.
They have a fair bit to say on security and no, there is not so much on the economy, but they have promised a massive building programme planned and a lot of regeneration and therefore that should create a lot of jobs.What's their policies other than the climate out of interest?
I've had a brief read, seems mainly environment and benefits. Not much on the economy, security etc.
Rather that than being an oozing twat like yourself
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Oh dear, deluded Brighton is back on the scene
Its the environment that that supports social/ health and well being, and sustainable, long term economic growth. It always gets treated as an add on or a cost, when in fact the opposite is true.They have a fair bit to say on security and no, there is not so much on the economy, but they have promised a massive building programme planned and a lot of regeneration and therefore that should create a lot of jobs.
Deluded how? Predicting a Tory majority? Wanting Corbyn gone? Praying for Dim to come up with his own points?
you're accusing people of not reading manifestos.
But austerity hadn't turned out how it was portrayed.
13000 deaths due to cuts, (Ok, that's a higher end estimate), but even the DWP puts it in the thousands.
And no, if Labour get in I don't think they'll deliver on everything. And I've stated before, at the end of a party's term in government they should have to produce a report explaing any discrepancies between their manifesto and what they delivered - that would have been a big report for the last couple of PMs
Do you (or anyone) think Corbyn would remain as party leader if Labour actually won the election?
It's been rubbished.
Woman whose account spread fake news about boy on hospital floor claims she was hacked
Woman whose account spread fake news about boy on hospital floor claims she was hacked
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No, I was referring to the fact that many people have conveniently forgot what was an accepted reality at the time that we were facing many years of cuts, as was acknowledge by Labour, the IFS, and just about everyone else. People seem genuinely surprised by this. It is the big deceit in British politics. Notwithstanding mistakes made, and there certainly were, we'd have had many years of austerity regardless of the colour of government, as was seen in many European countries with socialist governments.
He's right though. Islamaphobia doesn't have any meaning
Many of your posts contain thinly veiled insults - so don't try for the moral high ground.Sure do like to throw around the insults eh
Labour aren’t going to win. Would love to be proven wrong but clearly not happening
And austerity has been a failure but I'm not sure any other government would have cut as deep or hard as the Tories.
Interesting that one country that rejected austerity recover quicker than most after the crash. Admittedly there were measures they took that I dont think an EU country could of.
Yes it does.
Islamophobia | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary
Islamophobia - Wikipedia
I’ve seen it time and time again with close mates as well as strangers. First it’s “Oh I just think halal is barbaric”, then it’s some half arsed Quran quotes out of context that “prove” how Islam is particularly different to literally every other religion. Then some shit about Muhammad being a pedo. Then full on “kick the muzzle fuckers out”.
There are valid complaints about Islam, like there are valid complaints about Israel. And like Israel there’s a lot of people using the former to be racist. And a lot of people who start with the former and end up racist.
More Tory Lies...its like breathing air.
That wasn't the question. I said if they were to win, would Corbyn still be leader/PM or replaced?
What's their policies other than the climate out of interest?
I've had a brief read, seems mainly environment and benefits. Not much on the economy, security etc.
Many of your posts contain thinly veiled insults - so don't try for the moral high ground.
For an example your original 'deflection' response intent was really provocation in the same manner of my insult
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That wasn't the question. I said if they were to win, would Corbyn still be leader/PM or replaced?
If Labour won, why would he be replaced? On what grounds could any of his party look to oust him so quickly? Of course he'd be leader/PM - you'd have to be mental as a Labour MP/representative to consider rocking the boat if they actually won (which they won't)
Would you ask if the Conservatives were to win would Johnson still be leader/PM or be replaced? It'd be like Liverpool sacking Klopp the day after they won the title.
Yes it does.
Islamophobia | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary
Islamophobia - Wikipedia
I’ve seen it time and time again with close mates as well as strangers. First it’s “Oh I just think halal is barbaric”, then it’s some half arsed Quran quotes out of context that “prove” how Islam is particularly different to literally every other religion. Then some shit about Muhammad being a pedo. Then full on “kick the muzzle fuckers out”.
There are valid complaints about Islam, like there are valid complaints about Israel. And like Israel there’s a lot of people using the former to be racist. And a lot of people who start with the former and end up racist.
I just can't see Corbyn as a PM.
He has good ways of appealing to some people in a election campaign by saying what they want to hear, but just comes across as spineless and not a leader.
As usual the character that is Johnathan Pie says it how it is
It is all based around the environment, but it's basically joining a lot of dots. More jobs with restructuring industry towards green/renewable energy and more efficient homes etc. Improved environment reducing health problems and easing pressure on the health service.
Their foreign/defence policy is also along similar veins - provide aid so there are jobs/opportunities in their own countries and stop making places uninhabitable through climate change and you reduce the number of people wanting to migrate for economic reasons. Quite long term thinking and doesn't address current needs though.
Quite a bit on right-on equality etc that goes too far IMO and some of the stuff like replacing personal allowance with a Universal Basic Income I'm really not convinced by - greed of companies/landlords etc would just see inflation rise to take the money off you.
No. How it is. Boris has been repeatedly trying to make out that he’s only just been made PM so the last nine years are nothing to do with him, when very clearly they are. Clearly an inconvenient truth for anyone dumb enough to back him.How it is, or how it sees it? He doesn't have a monopoly on being right. I do like him though. Some of his videos are go to when trying to settle an argument.
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