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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,061
Grendel said:
Tony? Care to comment?
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What are you asking me for? You’re the one who lacks the maturity to understand that Dom had the same maturity to agree with you in 2017 as he does in 2019. This is a lesson you need to learn not me.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,062
stupot07 said:
Alexander is too scared to be interviewed by Andrew Neil lol.


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Ahhh. What do you know you working class feckless drunk.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,063
shmmeee said:
James O’Brien made a good point about the same people who rubbished the IFS Brexit predictions now hailing them as infallible when costing Labours manifesto.

FWIW I think there’s a balance and the IFS is very small c conservative when it comes to big changes. But at least Labour have tried to identify where new growth would come from, even if you disagree with it. The government can’t even be arsed to produce their own Brexit costings and just want us to ignore all the other ones.
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I respect consistency and nowhere near enough people use it. Take G for instance-always moving the goalposts for his own team but not the opposition.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,064
Funny Boris Johnson to be replaced with melting ice sculpture after dodging climate change TV debate
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,065
Philosorapter said:
And another one...

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Bringing the total candidates disqualified from making anti-Semitic comments to:

Labour 1
Conservatives 2
Lib Dem’s 1

Also candidates disqualified for making Islamophobic comments:

Conservatives 1
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,066
Ian1779 said:
Bringing the total candidates disqualified from making anti-Semitic comments to:

Labour 1
Conservatives 2
Lib Dem’s 1

Also candidates disqualified for making Islamophobic comments:

Conservatives 1
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At least this proves Tories take it seriously, be a Holocaust denier in the Labour Party and you just get a warning
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,067
Grendel said:
At least this proves Tories take it seriously, be a Holocaust denier in the Labour Party and you just get a warning
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Has Rees-Mogg been suspended? I guess it depends on how posh of a conservative you are before it’s considered antisemitic or not.
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,068
Grendel said:
At least this proves Tories take it seriously, be a Holocaust denier in the Labour Party and you just get a warning
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Even you’re not that stupid I would have thought.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,069
skybluetony176 said:
Has Rees-Mogg been suspended? I guess it depends on how posh of a conservative you are before it’s considered antisemitic or not.
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Think he's been told he's not allowed off his estate due to a potential outbreak of foot-in-mouth disease.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,070
Ian1779 said:
Even you’re not that stupid I would have thought.
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So Andrew Neil lies? mr Corbyn said that was a fact didn’t he?
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,071
Ian1779 said:
Bringing the total candidates disqualified from making anti-Semitic comments to:

Labour 1
Conservatives 2
Lib Dem’s 1

Also candidates disqualified for making Islamophobic comments:

Conservatives 1
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I am talking about all candidates, from all parties, and not any one party in general, or against one particular ethnic group.

You can lump the candidates all together in one rotten barrel.
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,072
Philosorapter said:
I am talking about all candidates, from all parties, and not any one party in general, or against one ethnic group.

You can lump them all together in a rotten barrel.
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I agree... it just shows that this is a problem across all the political spectrum.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,073
Revealed: Tory candidates issued with attack manuals on how to smear rivals
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,074
Philosorapter said:
I am talking about all candidates, from all parties, and not any one party in general, or against one particular ethnic group.

You can lump the candidates all together in one rotten barrel.
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Another one in Scotland too for the SNP. 3 in 2 days.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,075
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I respect consistency and nowhere near enough people use it. Take G for instance-always moving the goalposts for his own team but not the opposition.
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Followed sure enough by

Grendel said:
At least this proves Tories take it seriously, be a Holocaust denier in the Labour Party and you just get a warning
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,076
Philosorapter said:
I am talking about all candidates, from all parties, and not any one party in general, or against one particular ethnic group.

You can lump the candidates all together in one rotten barrel.
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This literally only happens because it’s the mentals that put all the time in to party work. We need more sensible people joining parties. Politicians don’t fall fully formed out of the sky. I’d do it but my post history on this thread alone would disqualify me
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,077
It's not hard guys... I know this applies to Public Policy, or should do, if you have any clue about political philosophy, which I doubt many of them do. I would add a lot of Coventry Labour into this bracket as well.

Utilitarianism - Wikipedia

Even then, there are safeguards against the dangers of Utilitarianism, and there are many dangers which political parties and individuals either choose to ignore or just don't know that they are there.

I think this is the problem, so many people talk a good game but a very few actually have any clue on what they are doing.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,078
If you want to know more...

 

ccfc92

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,079
Go!
 

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shmmeee

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,080
ccfc92 said:
Go!
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I don’t think it’ll be Corbyn on his own out there with a spade. I know he likes gardening but that’s ridiculous.
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,081
WTF is going on. Johnson refusing to confirm he will be interviewed by Neil, refusing to turn up for the C4 leaders debate on climate change and sending his Dad along instead and then when C4 empty chair him start threatening them.

 

Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,082
ccfc92 said:
Go!
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I wonder what the estimated area for this would be.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,083
Don’t be mean to me or I’ll send my dad. Imagine people are actually intending to vote for this mug.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,084
Philosorapter said:
I wonder what the estimated area for this would be.
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Half of Mars...
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,085
ccfc92 said:
Go!
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I work with a tiny charity that manages to do it once every 30 seconds on average. It’s very ambitious but with climate change we have to be.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,086
chiefdave said:
WTF is going on. Johnson refusing to confirm he will be interviewed by Neil, refusing to turn up for the C4 leaders debate on climate change and sending his Dad along instead and then when C4 empty chair him start threatening them.

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Trumpian. He’s losing it already.
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,087
ccfc92 said:
Go!
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I know it’s a much bigger space but Canada plant 250 million a year. So it can be done if you have the land.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,088
Philosorapter said:
I wonder what the estimated area for this would be.
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About 60k hectares per year, so 1.2m hectares over 20 years.

Theres 3.2m hectares cover at the moment so it’s not even doubling it which is what a lot of environmental charities have been suggesting.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,089
The calaculation is on...
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,090
Liquid Gold said:
I work with a tiny charity that manages to do it once every 30 seconds on average. It’s very ambitious but with climate change we have to be.
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Strange then that the labour council in Coventry wants to destroy the Greenbelt and destroy thousands of trees isn’t it?
 

ccfc92

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,091
shmmeee said:
I don’t think it’ll be Corbyn on his own out there with a spade. I know he likes gardening but that’s ridiculous.
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Obviously he won't be, but that's 3 per second for 20 years straight...
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,092
How many trees can you plant per hectare.

As many as you want though typical densities range from 1000 to 2500 trees per hectare.

Let's go for 2,500 and really go for it.

One hectare is 0.003861022 square mile.

Etc

I have a grand total of 3088817.27 square miles for this tree planting escapade.

The area of the UK is around 94000 square miles.

Good stuff!
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,093
Multi-story forrest!

Line from 'The Thick of it' or the book anyway.
 

ccfc92

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,094
Ian1779 said:
I know it’s a much bigger space but Canada plant 250 million a year. So it can be done if you have the land.
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The land isn't the issue? Its the physical time to do it.

3 per second, for 20 years straight.

Don't forget, will have to be done by hand otherwise it won't be eco-friendly...
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 28, 2019
  • #4,095
ccfc92 said:
The land isn't the issue? Its the physical time to do it.

3 per second, for 20 years straight.

Don't forget, will have to be done by hand otherwise it won't be eco-friendly...
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It’s certainly not a one man job. But then again I don’t think anyone is suggesting that it is.
 
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