Nick
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Go back and see what I said... I said the bloke was being a prick.
Heavy handed, maybe a bit as he clearly wasn't a threat but if he wasn't being the prick it wouldn't happen so no sympathy.
I have no idea about Birmingham and what happened. Reports suggesting it was an online rumour . Whatever it is wrong
Doesn't make what the police did in Plymouth wrong does it ?
I've come off all forms of social media in the last week. Friends who should know better posting vile stuff and pushing division .And the problem is, the police have to take all of those threats seriously, and allocate resources.
Then if some knob posts something about attacking a mosque, there's the reaction from the other side to try to cover too.
It's a nightmare for the police, I still think getting a lid on social media is perhaps key to getting this under control.
Yep, it's the old misinformation thing again, isn't it? Like the rumour that the far-right were turning up enmasse in Birmingham. It mobilises those who think they can defend themselves and their communities. They then go onto commit acts of violence themselves. It's neverending.And the problem is, the police have to take all of those threats seriously, and allocate resources.
Then if some knob posts something about attacking a mosque, there's the reaction from the other side to try to cover too.
It's a nightmare for the police, I still think getting a lid on social media is perhaps key to getting this under control.
And the problem is, the police have to take all of those threats seriously, and allocate resources.
Then if some knob posts something about attacking a mosque, there's the reaction from the other side to try to cover too.
It's a nightmare for the police, I still think getting a lid on social media is perhaps key to getting this under control.
Mainly because of the nonsense posted about as to why the police weren't there.
"Maybe they are on their way"
"They were busy controlling far right people"
What Im saying is, why wasn't there a heavy police presence if they were actually expecting far right cunts to turn up?
Make it make sense.
I was referring to the whole night and the success they had keeping two groups of protesters apart . Not the morons who got caught up in it trying to be heroesGo back and see what I said... I said the bloke was being a prick.
Heavy handed, maybe a bit as he clearly wasn't a threat but if he wasn't being the prick it wouldn't happen so no sympathy.
Should put them on planes to RwandaOver 400 arrests so far. They'll be hundreds more. Then after tomorrow...who knows?
Here’s sense for you.
The Leeds stuff escalated wildly in a very short timeframe. A call that maybe 4 officers went to turned sour quickly and there wasn’t sufficient riot police in a local vicinity to contain it.
I’m not saying that’s factual, I don’t know the full capacity of the riot police in Leeds and surrounding areas, but it’s plausible.
On the other side you have organised far-right protests with dates having been published online. This gives the police the opportunity to prepare more resource. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s fair to say they’ve been under-resourced at every one, but it’s the judgement call of those in charge.
Mainly because of the nonsense posted about as to why the police weren't there.
"Maybe they are on their way"
"They were busy controlling far right people"
What Im saying is, why wasn't there a heavy police presence if they were actually expecting far right cunts to turn up?
Make it make sense.
the two tier policing stuff is really bizarreI was just making sure everyone was aware as some of the posting is bizarre
And the problem is, the police have to take all of those threats seriously, and allocate resources.
Then if some knob posts something about attacking a mosque, there's the reaction from the other side to try to cover too.
It's a nightmare for the police, I still think getting a lid on social media is perhaps key to getting this under control.
The thick cunts have apparently been starting to target emergency NHS staff in Sunderland. Are they going to step up and fill these vital, thankless roles when they leave? I think not. Utter disgrace.
Yes. You made it clear they're responsible for high interest rates.I haven't mentioned home ownership as an issue at any point. I've made clear who I think keeps things a certain way for their own benefit and to the determiment of most, and that those people stoke hatred of immigrants to obfuscate their role in it.
The thick cunts have apparently been starting to target emergency NHS staff in Sunderland. Are they going to step up and fill these vital, thankless roles when they leave? I think not. Utter disgrace.
Well Lee Anderson was up to the same shit the other week, wasn't he? Stating "illegals" were at a hotel, turns out they were nurses.Is that really happening or just a rumour? There’s so much crap flying around it’s hard to know what to believe
They were there, Nick. There was at least one van there from very early on. What they weren't, was visible. That bit I can't answer.
It could be they had loads of officers just around the corner (not unusual in public order situations) or it could be that they actually thought it would pass off peacefully and didn't have enough bodies to throw at it in any case.
Either way, I can't believe that any copper with a half a brain would have stirred that crowd up by saying "the far right are on the way", so I suspect that's a myth.
They were there, Nick. There was at least one van there from very early on. What they weren't, was visible. That bit I can't answer.
It could be they had loads of officers just around the corner (not unusual in public order situations) or it could be that they actually thought it would pass off peacefully and didn't have enough bodies to throw at it in any case.
Either way, I can't believe that any copper with a half a brain would have stirred that crowd up by saying "the far right are on the way", so I suspect that's a myth.
Are you sure these rumours aren't being spread by bots?
Could be Russian intel. Or Iranian or Chinese?
I don’t believe anything I read is factual and unbiased.Hareshill: This is literally the verbatim response of the Police Officer with thirty years experience of public order:
"The circumstances in Harehills were very different. “It started out looking like a standard call that many officers will go to, an incident at an address with social services trying to remove children,” said Wettone. “And then it blew up with officers coming under attack. And because of how quickly it escalated, withdrawal is the best tactic.”
Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it propaganda.
As for useful idiot newspapers, just a stab in the dark this, but do you perhaps read one owned by billionaires? And do you believe everything in it is factual and unbiased?
I haven't mentioned home ownership as an issue at any point. I've made clear who I think keeps things a certain way for their own benefit and to the determiment of most, and that those people stoke hatred of immigrants to obfuscate their role in it.
Every chance I would think.In all seriousness I wonder if we will see matches in some locations called off. No doubt things will kick off again at various locations around the country. If there are football matches taking place in the same locations then it's pretty obvious there may not be enough police to cover the games.
Fucking mindless thick cunts.Apparently an immigration solicitors' office is to be targeted in Brighton tomorrow. I can see it kicking off big time there.
Brighton is a silly place for them. it never goes well for them there. There's loads of folk who love a go at them in Brighton.Apparently an immigration solicitors' office is to be targeted in Brighton tomorrow. I can see it kicking off big time there.
It hasn't even got a proper beach.Brighton is a silly place for them. it never goes well for them there. There's loads of folk who love a go at them in Brighton.
Apparently an immigration solicitors' office is to be targeted in Brighton tomorrow. I can see it kicking off big time there.
Yeah the last time they turned up in Brighton it didn't exactly go well for them.Brighton is a silly place for them. it never goes well for them there. There's loads of folk who love a go at them in Brighton.
Funnily enough they are being jailed here in Kent (and Rutland) ..... which is not only near me but amusingly where the Conservative & Unionist Party detained immigrants and their kids. That will agitate the EDL followers!Should put them on planes to Rwanda
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