Alan Dugdales Moustache
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Neither are the police from what I'm seeing . What do you suggest if the situation deteriorates further ? Hand out a few leaflets?
Neither are the police from what I'm seeing . What do you suggest if the situation deteriorates further ? Hand out a few leaflets?Used for what? You want the “protesters” shot? The army aren’t trained in crowd control.
People on Twitter don’t have to present a balanced view, unlike the BBC (who am I kidding). The crime is attacking people in cars, not failing to publish other videos. Were there “other videos” from yesterday that you would have wanted to see published? Were they published elsewhere? If not, how do you know there were any videos personally acceptable to you that weren’t published?Yes it’s helpful to know the context of something to understand a motive or reason. For example, I understand the reason that particular twitter account posted that video, and not others.
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How ironic .Everyone needs to just calm the fuck down and leave all the WhatsApp/Telegram groups they’re in.
Neither are the police from what I'm seeing . What do you suggest if the situation deteriorates further ? Hand out a few leaflets?
No I'm not exaggerating. I pointed out the clear difference in how Russian bots suddenly became a thing.Rubbish.
you’re saying people on here stated “things didn’t happen, it’s all Russian bots”, now you’re changing it.
You were banging on about this all night as if you actually want that to be the case, harassing Otis for example who was repeatedly saying the same thing over & over that undoubtedly things happened, and there are a load of accounts stirring things up. Which is true.
You’re exaggerating, making things up because for some weird reason you want it to be the case.
Except he's not is he? would you want to imply he is?No I'm not exaggerating. I pointed out the clear difference in how Russian bots suddenly became a thing.
I'm not making things up, this account was fired up to pile onto me.
"Harassing?" Get a grip.
Yeah, could have really helped if they had got some ImansI wonder where the spiritual leadership were?
Quite odd to not send them out with instruction?
No-one said things didn't happen and no-one said it was all Russian botsThe irony is people really are trying to pretend things didn't happen and it was all Russian bots.
Odd that the tweets she made before that haven't been posted in here, people need to stop cherry picking things to try and point score and look at the wider picture.Jess Phillips trying to excuse the behaviour
No I'm not exaggerating. I pointed out the clear difference in how Russian bots suddenly became a thing.
I'm not making things up, this account was fired up to pile onto me.
"Harassing?" Get a grip.
He's not want, firing up this account to pile onto me?Except he's not is he? would you want to imply he is?
Yeah, could have really helped if they had got some Imans
No-one said things didn't happen and no-one said it was all Russian bots
Great politician's answer though
The only things people said didn't happen, were the ones where the police said it didn't happen.
All that was said was that we shouldn't just instantly believe everything we see, because that machete attack, that was completely fake, looked very, very realistic.
The guy attacked at the pub, the old guy getting beaten up in the street, the black kid getting punched in the face, no-one has said they didn't happen. They looked 100% legit
As someone else said, when some of these videos are coming from dubious accounts though, it is right and proper to just reflect and wait to confirm that they are real.
We know the machete attack was faked. Are there others and if so, which ones?
It's all very well-reasoned and rational and not what you are painting it to be, Nick
I see a fake account, I then wonder if the video is fake too. I my natural.
I totally disagree, the pissed up dick head wasn’t being aggressive. There was no suggestion that others would join in. In fact, the coppers action was more likely to provoke a violent reaction from the mob than to have left him alone, stumbling along in his drunken state.Zero comparison, surely.
This bloke there is right in the coppers faces and they have clearly told him to back off and he doesn't.
If they allowed him to continue, others would have joined in and it would have become a problem. The last thing they needed, was hundreds of people right in their faces.
That's completely different to a tasered man who is on the floor, no longer a threat and getting kicked in the head.
Absolutely chalk and cheese.
One guy, tasered and on the ground, against one guy, standing, confronting the police, with the potential with many others to join in and a group of probably a hundred angry people behind him.
A national curfew . Fantastic idea. That'll work. Can I go to Tesco at 7pm or are pensioners exempt anyway?What do you mean by “deteriorates further”?
id expect curfews first TBH. Most of those involved are U18. Not sure what dragging the army in is supposed to do. Where would you put them? What would they do? It’s just something people say like it’s GTA and the army is just the super police
He's not want, firing up this account to pile onto me?
Maybe he can answer
Yes. People are pretending things didn't happen. I even quoted what was said. Yes people are very much trying to play it down as bots when it's other people being attacked.you said “people are trying to pretend things didn’t happen and it was all Russian bots”
That’s not true is it? Hence now you’re saying you were just pointing out how bots became a thing, climbing down, changing what you’re saying you said.
Stop lying.
And if getting wound up about blatantly racists posts on the site is a ‘pile on’, I don’t know what to say to you.
Thats disingenuous and you are becoming very tiresome Nick, what's wrong with you last few days.You might want to read back through.
"Nobody was attacked"
I'm not lying. The same as when I said you only fired up this account for a pile on.
They were probably having tea and cakes on the local hospital car park,Yeah, I would like to know how close the police were to that incident, or if they weren't, were they dealing with something else. Would love to hear their explanation.
No they kick out now!A national curfew . Fantastic idea. That'll work. Can I go to Tesco at 10pm ?
Yes. People are pretending things didn't happen. I even quoted what was said. Yes people are very much trying to play it down as bots when it's other people being attacked.
You know exactly what I'm talking about about firing up this account for a pile on. Let's not pretend that either.
We will have to agree to disagree then.I totally disagree, the pissed up dick head wasn’t being aggressive. There was no suggestion that others would join in. In fact, the coppers action was more likely to provoke a violent reaction from the mob than to have left him alone, stumbling along in his drunken state.
It was violent and unnecessary, especially when you see the level of police response to, say, a marauding mob invading a pub or attacking cars.
I just did answer. I had a go at a few people actually, for what I interpreted to be racist posts. And now I’m pointing out that you’re being disengenous by making out people were saying things that they weren’t. If you want to class that as a ‘pile on’ then ok.
Maybe it's people's eyes playing up missing the "nobody was attacked"?Yeah, could have really helped if they had got some Imans
No-one said things didn't happen and no-one said it was all Russian bots
Great politician's answer though
The only things people said didn't happen, were the ones where the police said it didn't happen.
All that was said was that we shouldn't just instantly believe everything we see, because that machete attack, that was completely fake, looked very, very realistic.
The guy attacked at the pub, the old guy getting beaten up in the street, the black kid getting punched in the face, no-one has said they didn't happen. They looked 100% legit
As someone else said, when some of these videos are coming from dubious accounts though, it is right and proper to just reflect and wait to confirm that they are real.
We know the machete attack was faked. Are there others and if so, which ones?
It's all very well-reasoned and rational and not what you are painting it to be, Nick
I see a fake account, I then wonder if the video is fake too. Only natural.
Can't remember saying it was all one person.Who exactly said that “nothing happened, it was all Russian Bots?” Your words, not mine.
Thats more @Jamesimus territoryYou said it would NOT be reported.
It's BEEN reported.
You should have said "it won't be reported on any of the sites I want it to be reported on and the ones it is reported on, don't count, unless I say so."
Maybe it's people's eyes playing up missing the "nobody was attacked"?
Its not well reasoned at all. Its weird how people change as soon as the attacker and victim change.
Again, zero people questioned the accounts posting other videos of the weekend and won't going forward.
The head of a refugee charity posted a fake thing about a Muslim person being acid attacked. Didn't they?
Half MuslimPaloma faiths statement is good
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I’m sure you are not always a twat, just being more bothered about who publishes videos than the content of the videos seems a bit twattish at the the time. Sorry about that.Anyway, finding this all pretty exhausting so logging off this thread.
I’ll freely admit my view isn’t balanced on this, but I don’t think it’s the time for a balanced view imo. I’ll be out there this week if needed, but I personally think the attendance of the far right will fizzle out very soon and the reactions they have caused in other communities therefore will also fizzle out.
Apologies to any posters I’ve argued with in the thread it’s nothing personal @Nick @Evo1883, it’s just a subject that particularly riles me up. Also @MalcSB called me a twat but that’s true so you can have that one @MalcSB!
I’ll be annoying everyone in the football threads from this weekend. Especially you @GIMOC
Were they? Before yesterday who was questioning the validity of videos when it was white racists.I think you’ll find that people were saying there are false accounts on both sides stirring things up, too. Which is true.
you’ve nowhere to go here, you stated that people said nothing happened and it was all Russian bots. That’s just a lie, there’s no getting around it.
My kids are just whiteHalf Muslimwanted to get it in there but wasn't sure how was she.
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Careful, you could get misconstrued!🫣Half Muslimwanted to get it in there but wasn't sure how was she.
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My children are half Catholic, any points for that!My kids are just white
Haha. Can you be " half" any religeon ? I never thought of that. Surely you're either in or you're not .My children are half Catholic, any points for that!
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