Nick
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Yeah and I'm just saying why do you only think that now and not with the hundreds of videos posted from the other things happening?
No-one is saying these videos are fake
Do you think the security services are lying when they say Russia and Iran are flooding the internet with bots, stirring things up and inflaming things?
That is what I am on about.
I am saying don't just believe everything you see and hear.
To physically break up riots or disorderTo do what ?
Fucking disgusted by all the cunts that have spent years sowing and spreading this division now pretending to be shocked and outraged by said division. Farage and all his minion bootlickers, this is exactly what they wanted.
I wouldn’t say it’s random I’ll expect it’s coordinated from somewhere. Russia, China, erc have been I citing stuff in other countries for years.Now I'm not saying this is fake but who's putting all of these lists out?
It seems like you hear people keep saying "the edl are coming" when they clearly aren't as they aren't a thing now. Who's saying to one group that the edl are coming?
I wouldn't be surprised at all if there's just random pricks online posting shit like this with no intention of actually going.
Whoever it is putting it out should be found and done for inciting, obviously.
Because like I said the info that came out from the security services was after the first videos, which we had already commented on.Yeah and I'm just saying why do you only think that now and not with the hundreds of videos posted from the other things happening?
Don't know. The security services said we were being attacked by bots. This I believe was after last week's videos
Well.yeah, and logic would tell.you that bots stirring up trouble are going to target the already wound up, angry Brits aren't they.its very strange to me that we live in a world with multiple rolling news channels covering events like this live but there's a significant number of people who insist those channels are lying to us and the likes of patriot475737 on twitter are the reliable news source.
Any excuse to stay over!!Bullshit, you've never had a bird
Well if the police fail to do it what do you suggest ?To physically break up riots or disorder
its very strange to me that we live in a world with multiple rolling news channels covering events like this live but there's a significant number of people who insist those channels are lying to us and the likes of patriot475737 on twitter are the reliable news source.
Don't think the army got called in back in 2011 and there was 5 deaths in those riots. I get the logic in calling them in but I think its a bigger step than people are making it out to beWhen did we last send in the army to do that?
100% this, Dave.its very strange to me that we live in a world with multiple rolling news channels covering events like this live but there's a significant number of people who insist those channels are lying to us and the likes of patriot475737 on twitter are the reliable news source.
Are you stupid. Both me and stupot said we were looking at the roundabout videoHow can you ignore Saddlebrains post two posts above yours. People being attacked in cars.
You’re right it was a blokeBullshit, you've never had a bird
I asked you when we last did itWell if the police fail to do it what do you suggest ?
All I am saying we should show caution. The fact we know there ARE fakes about and the fact we know foreign agents are at play, should have us just taking a breath and questioning thingsJust weird how it's all of a sudden we can't believe things were see and hear, after a weekend of believing things we see and hear.
Genuine question. If somebody had looked up that video of the bloke being racist to cars or the other bloke being punched and said "yeah but don't believe everything"' and saying the poster was so and so. How would that have gone down?
What about if somebody said "yeah but did the guy say anything to them first" after watching a video of a racist attack, what would the reaction be?
Well.yeah, and logic would tell.you that bots stirring up trouble are going to target the already wound up, angry Brits aren't they.
Common sense.
At least it isn't Chyna this time,yet!!No-one is saying these videos are fake
Do you think the security services are lying when they say Russia and Iran are flooding the internet with bots, stirring things up and inflaming things?
That is what I am on about.
I am saying don't just believe everything you see and hear.
At least it isn't Chyna this time,yet!!
Unless I’m badly mistaken the last time we used the army for this was in Northern Ireland-using combat troops to deal with civilian disturbances is incredibly risky ground.Don't think the army got called in back in 2011 and there was 5 deaths in those riots. I get the logic in calling them in but I think its a bigger step than people are making it out to be
I’m not sure the army are set up for this and if they were brought in would only be backup for the police and follow same tactics.If the police are just going to stand in a line and let the crowds entertain themselves by launching whatever they like at them then it's achieving absolutely nothing . I'm truly shocked by what I'm seeing . There's absolutely nothing to be frightened of if you're hell bent on rioting.
The police in the 1980s had very little equipment and had to deal with hardened miners , not kids off school, not bored teenagers .
If something doesn't change tactically then the army will have to be used .
By the laws of logic and the fact they are flooding the internet, there will be some fakes.So basically if it's videos of Muslim men carrying out racist attacks, criminal damage etc is just bots trying to wind up angry Brits?
Maybe this is just me but my first reaction to anything on twitter is what has been cut outJust weird how it's all of a sudden we can't believe things were see and hear, after a weekend of believing things we see and hear.
Apart from Northern Ireland I can't recall when we've needed them . I also can't recall such dreadful police tactics. Are you suggesting we can't use them because we haven't before in modern times ?I asked you when we last did it
You really believe that is a woman living in Norfolk posting live video from Plymouth, right?Falling for what though? She was filming it live.
This is what I dont get.
Obviously many clips will be 100% legit.By the laws of logic and the fact they are flooding the internet, there will be some fakes.
Undoubtedly.
Like the machete attack that didn't happen
I know and I get that. Its just weird how it's only time to take a breath and question when it's videos of Muslim men carrying out attacks.All I am saying we should show caution. The fact we know there ARE fakes about and the fact we know foreign agents are at play, should have us just taking a breath and questioning things
That's not saying they ARE fake, but waiting for confirmation. We saw yesterday that very realistic footage of the two people that had been attacked with machetes.
Trouble was, it didn't happen. The police say it was a fake story
Faily sure they have water cannons,or fire fighting equipment,those things at airports, get em borrowed!!I’m not sure the army are set up for this and if they were brought in would only be backup for the police and follow same tactics.
I don't think anyone has argued that the guy with the sword on sky news shouldn't be getting a knock and be looking at some time insideSky news were there?
Do you need context, they are attacking white people in cars, you twat.No context to the video and posted (yet again today) from an *extremely* sketchy twitter account.
So what is being questioned as not legit?I don't think anyone has argued that the guy with the sword on sky news shouldn't be getting a knock and be looking at some time inside
Yes. People are being incredibly knee jerk here.Don't think the army got called in back in 2011 and there was 5 deaths in those riots. I get the logic in calling them in but I think its a bigger step than people are making it out to be
No, sure some of it is true. But some of the accounts shared are clearly bots/propaganda accounts.So basically if it's videos of Muslim men carrying out racist attacks, criminal damage etc is just bots trying to wind up angry Brits?
they definitely aren't coming in and taking over the situation if they do get involved. it will simply be manpower, although the increased manpower could lead to a change in tactics.I’m not sure the army are set up for this and if they were brought in would only be backup for the police and follow same tactics.
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