Gynnsthetonic
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Couldn't put it better myself
Couldn't put it better myselfI think the issue is the fact it's labelled all about Tommy Robinson and "followers" and also that it's hard to have a discussion about some of the issues without being labelled a racist.
There is no discussion in the middle when it comes to immigration for example, it's either blokes on the boat or at the other end it's about "if you don't like immigration then you will stop brain surgeons".
People are scared of the discussion I think.
While I'm thinking about it my one of my daughters and my sister in law work and teach in high schools (in Rugby)...I also have two Granddaughters in high school, they tell me there's a big problem currently with "white" kids being "groomed" by far right organisations and kids are writing WP and 88 on their hands and greeting each other with Nazi salutes.
I think a few members of the forum are in the teaching profession I wonder if this is just a very local phenomenon?.
It's concerning though.
Lots of work going on by the schools concerned to try to stop itThat's the worry at the other end too.
It should be that there can be a discussion properly in the middle without the extremes at either end. If there are pricks doing that then they need to be nipped in the bud early doors and the people grooming punished.
Yup and the problem right there is that Tommy Robinson isn't the one to bring that argument.I think the issue is the fact it's labelled all about Tommy Robinson and "followers" and also that it's hard to have a discussion about some of the issues without being labelled a racist.
There is no discussion in the middle when it comes to immigration for example, it's either blokes on the boat or at the other end it's about "if you don't like immigration then you will stop brain surgeons".
People are scared of the discussion I think.
Exactly this happened in the politics thread recently. There were people moaning that 'lefties' wouldn't engage in discussion. Asked what their suggestion was to improve things and was met with laughing emojis.There is no discussion in the middle when it comes to immigration for example, it's either blokes on the boat or at the other end it's about "if you don't like immigration then you will stop brain surgeons".
People are scared of the discussion I think.
Personally I have only seen this on the Prevent training video!While I'm thinking about it my one of my daughters and my sister in law work and teach in high schools (in Rugby)...I also have two Granddaughters in high school, they tell me there's a big problem currently with "white" kids being "groomed" by far right organisations and kids are writing WP and 88 on their hands and greeting each other with Nazi salutes.
I think a few members of the forum are in the teaching profession I wonder if this is just a very local phenomenon?.
It's concerning though.
It’s funny old world, a British serving soldier was nearly butchered to death on his way home from serving this country but it was on the news for only one day. A couple of British female police officers were were punched from pillar to post but the community of the offenders protest for the officers to be sacked.
Make no mistake about it, the vast majority of Muslims in this country have no interest in anything other than their religion. They don’t care about Britain one iota. You didn’t see them protesting against the Rochdale groomers did you.
Said it in another thread but my daughters feel more threatened by white boys who have been groomed by Andrew Tate than Muslim men. The danger that the right has is that they’re far more sympathetic to the likes of Tate as he’s seen as an anti woke warrior and therefore the real victim. So long as they keep latching themselves onto the likes of Tate they’re equally as dangerous because they normalise him.While I'm thinking about it my one of my daughters and my sister in law work and teach in high schools (in Rugby)...I also have two Granddaughters in high school, they tell me there's a big problem currently with "white" kids being "groomed" by far right organisations and kids are writing WP and 88 on their hands and greeting each other with Nazi salutes.
I think a few members of the forum are in the teaching profession I wonder if this is just a very local phenomenon?.
It's concerning though.
And?The chief prosecutor of the groomers was a muslim
They're not scared of the discussion. @shmmeee has asked repeatedly who we'd stop coming in and nobody seems to want to offer him practical answers. I offer suggestions and @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 transfers all his insecurities onto me without actually reading the text. I offer practical examples of what it's like for asylum seekers and I get a shitty answer from you about everyone standing and applauding.I think the issue is the fact it's labelled all about Tommy Robinson and "followers" and also that it's hard to have a discussion about some of the issues without being labelled a racist.
There is no discussion in the middle when it comes to immigration for example, it's either blokes on the boat or at the other end it's about "if you don't like immigration then you will stop brain surgeons".
People are scared of the discussion I think.
They're not scared of the discussion. @shmmeee has asked repeatedly who we'd stop coming in and nobody seems to want to offer him practical answers. I offer suggestions and @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 transfers all his insecurities onto me without actually reading the text. I offer practical examples of what it's like for asylum seekers and I get a shitty answer from you about everyone standing and applauding.
I mean what's the point?
They're not scared of the discussion. @shmmeee has asked repeatedly who we'd stop coming in and nobody seems to want to offer him practical answers. I offer suggestions and @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 transfers all his insecurities onto me without actually reading the text. I offer practical examples of what it's like for asylum seekers and I get a shitty answer from you about everyone standing and applauding.
I mean what's the point?
Any comments on the football recently TonyNice to see you find young girls being thought of as pieces of shit a being treated badly amusing Earlsdon. Speaks volumes about you that does.
But you'll just discuss practical received experience of asylum seekers.I'm happy to discuss it when people don't try to patronise or accuse of racism at every opportunity.
Nice to see you find young girls being thought of as pieces of shit a being treated badly amusing Earlsdon. Speaks volumes about you that does.
But you'll just discuss practical received experience of asylum seekers.
I will call the racists racists. Fortunately there aren't that many, but it seems they're allowed to be to their hearts content.
You're a paranoid buffoon nick, I've even said specifically you're not racist. You do however let the racists do their thing while asking others to justify over and over again until they give up. That makes the board unusable. Where's the Nick who was equally happy to have a go at the reactionary righty stuff? That was there pre COVID.
I don't imply people are racist, I call them out.
Not seen it where I teach in midland sbut plenty of Brexit means Brexit chants and farage is a hero etcWhile I'm thinking about it my one of my daughters and my sister in law work and teach in high schools (in Rugby)...I also have two Granddaughters in high school, they tell me there's a big problem currently with "white" kids being "groomed" by far right organisations and kids are writing WP and 88 on their hands and greeting each other with Nazi salutes.
I think a few members of the forum are in the teaching profession I wonder if this is just a very local phenomenon?.
It's concerning though.
Not seen it where I teach in midland sbut plenty of Brexit means Brexit chants and farage is a hero etc
So it's not the school parroting anything about immigrants at all then.Personally I have only seen this on the Prevent training video!
In sunny Northamptonshire I’ve taught in a multi-ethnic inner city school, and a rural town school over the last 12 months. The only thing I’ve witnessed that concerns me is at the rural school (98% white British for context) are parroted lines about immigrants, which are either from parents, but most likely from TikTok sound bites. The multi-ethnic school was full of very tolerant and welcoming students, that interacted really well.
Which school in Rugby is that ?While I'm thinking about it my one of my daughters and my sister in law work and teach in high schools (in Rugby)...I also have two Granddaughters in high school, they tell me there's a big problem currently with "white" kids being "groomed" by far right organisations and kids are writing WP and 88 on their hands and greeting each other with Nazi salutes.
I think a few members of the forum are in the teaching profession I wonder if this is just a very local phenomenon?.
It's concerning though.
Me thinking you're racist.Paranoid about what, exactly?
Yeah I think tbh it's more to shock people. Like chanting for Andrew TateIts so weird and I blame social media for that. When I was that age I don't think could even name politicians or MPs. I'd know who the prime minister was but I just wanted to play football all day every day and be a kid.
that is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read.Said it in another thread but my daughters feel more threatened by white boys who have been groomed by Andrew Tate than Muslim men. The danger that the right has is that they’re far more sympathetic to the likes of Tate as he’s seen as an anti woke warrior and therefore the real victim. So long as they keep latching themselves onto the likes of Tate they’re equally as dangerous because they normalise him.
The biggest irony with the far right is their direction of travel seems to be making the west more like their views of what Islam is. Especially true in the US with the MAGA contingent and their Christian fundamentalism.
Me thinking you're racist.
Things spread so much more quickly now don't they, through SM and the likes.Yeah I think tbh it's more to shock people. Like chanting for Andrew Tate
It is social media though. I know one student who has told me over and over I am her favourite teacher ever etc was sharing racist tiktoks about shoot the boats etc
She's a good kid and I don't believe for one second she is racist. They just don't think at their age and share . She told me she only shared it because her parents talked about voting for reform to stop illegal immigration.
I am sure I said some dumb shit at that age. Part of growing up.
Then why being it up?Frankly I couldn't really care
Once again while it's definitely something worth keeping eye out for BUT if it was white men you would just say lads looking to get laid.that is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read.
wait till your daughters are up town and in a club or bar surrounded by a group drinking just a glass of coke all night preying on young girls. sure their opinion will change then
Just last week. look at the ethnicity of the preying men
Because it's a reason some people don't want to discuss it constructively.Then why being it up?
I'll happily call the racists racist, and so I (and others) should.
And racist posts stay up without comment while others are sealioned. That's not modding.Because it's a reason some people don't want to discuss it constructively.
Like I said, I've been about long enough to know how people operate.
And racist posts stay up without comment while others are sealioned. That's not modding.
Who and what am I asking over and over that means people can't use things?
I’ve seen men of all ages and backgrounds harass women in public over the years. It’s a male problem rather than a specific ethnicity.that is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read.
wait till your daughters are up town and in a club or bar surrounded by a group drinking just a glass of coke all night preying on young girls. sure their opinion will change then
Just last week. look at the ethnicity of the preying men
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