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David O'Day

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  • Aug 5, 2024
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Also i will say yet again, the 2 at the airport should and will be charged for what they did as well.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,472
David O'Day said:
He was still lying on the ground with his arms by his side.

The Officer is rightly going to at the very least lose his job, if you think his actions were okay then that is on you really but it's a shite look.
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Why are you still piping up? You are the worst for double standards and hypocrisy.

It's fucking weird to say to go out with machetes hunting people is more justified than a copper who had just been assaulted multiple times and watched his mates get their faces smashed in.

The actual comparison would be the innocent black fella walking down the street and getting punched, if he gave the c**t a pasting then it would be no different to the copper and fair play to him. If gangs of black lads then get machetes and go out looking for somebody to attack then it's not more justified.

White people going out setting fire to hotels with people in = attempted murder, cowardly cunts, get them sent down
Non white people attacking people with hammers = attempted murder, get them sent down
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,473
MalcSB said:
The copper hasn’t been excused, has been suspended and will face the consequences. I‘m not sure what point you are trying to make. The rioters shouldn’t have rioted, theMuslims shouldn’t have taken weapons out on to the streets in retaliato.
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I mean excused by people on here, and I’m saying the same thing. I was suggesting that you can’t really have one scenario where people feel threatened so go on the attack and it’s ok, but another scenario where people feel threatened so go on the attack and that’s not ok.
 

duffer

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,474
Ring Of Steel said:
i would agree- you have to treat both sides the same too, taking weapons out onto the street is against the law and action should be taken.
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I agree, but you have to accept that the overwhelming threat here is from the far right against Muslims, immigrants, and people of colour.

I'm not quite as worried about a gang of pissed up Muslims burning down a library or looting a Greggs.

Attacking a Greggs, for God's sake. We'll see this as a turning point in civilisation; the far right attacking a Greggs is akin to the Greeks demolishing the Parthenon. What next, Wetherspoons?
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,475
Ring Of Steel said:
I mean excused by people on here, and I’m saying the same thing. I was suggesting that you can’t really have one scenario where people feel threatened so go on the attack and it’s ok, but another scenario where people feel threatened so go on the attack and that’s not ok.
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It's a pathetic comparison.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,476
duffer said:
I agree, but you have to accept that the overwhelming threat here is from the far right against Muslims, immigrants, and people of colour.

I'm not quite as worried about a gang of pissed up Muslims burning down a library or looting a Greggs.

Attacking a Greggs, for God's sake. We'll see this as a turning point in civilisation; the far right attacking a Greggs is akin to the Greeks demolishing the Parthenon. What next, Wetherspoons?
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To be fair looking at the absolute gimps doing the looting and setting hotel fires. They really need to hope that gangs of Muslims don't get to them as they would absolutely destroy them.

It's embarrassing seeing some bloke with his top off with a can of stella standing behind police goading a gang of blokes who wouldn't think twice in kicking him up and down the street.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,477
David O'Day said:
He was still lying on the ground with his arms by his side.

The Officer is rightly going to at the very least lose his job, if you think his actions were okay then that is on you really but it's a shite look.
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You can't enter a country from abroad and attack local police officers, break noses try and grab their tasers without retribution. Might make others think twice
 

Otis

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,478
Johnnythespider said:
Westgate on sea, just along from Margate, lovely seaside town with very friendly locals, my first time in that corner of England and if you drive through Margate without stopping a very nice part of the world
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Lovely. Thanks, Spider. Will give it a look.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,479
Nick said:
It's a pathetic comparison.
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in your opinion, and that’s fine
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,480
Nick said:
Why are you still piping up? You are the worst for double standards and hypocrisy.

It's fucking weird to say to go out with machetes hunting people is more justified than a copper who had just been assaulted multiple times and watched his mates get their faces smashed in.

The actual comparison would be the innocent black fella walking down the street and getting punched, if he gave the c**t a pasting then it would be no different to the copper and fair play to him. If gangs of black lads then get machetes and go out looking for somebody to attack then it's not more justified.

White people going out setting fire to hotels with people in = attempted murder, cowardly cunts, get them sent down
Non white people attacking people with hammers = attempted murder, get them sent down
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see, once again you are sad old hypocrite as you attack people and say they can't talk nicely but you are so stupid you just do the same

if you can't see that a police officer is and needs to be held to a higher standard then it is a shame for you
 

Nick

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,481
Ring Of Steel said:
in your opinion, and that’s fine
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No, it's fact. It is absolutely non compatible of a situation.
 

MalcSB

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,482
Ring Of Steel said:
I mean excused by people on here, and I’m saying the same thing. I was suggesting that you can’t really have one scenario where people feel threatened so go on the attack and it’s ok, but another scenario where people feel threatened so go on the attack and that’s not ok.
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It could probably be argued that the best thing the Muslims could have done would have been to stay at home and let the police get on with quelling the riot, rather than turn out with weapons and complicate the situation.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,483
Nick said:
No, it's fact. It is absolutely non compatible of a situation.
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Actually it’s not, opinions are opinions- you have yours and I have mine, there isn’t much you can do to change that.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,484
MalcSB said:
It could probably be argued that the best thing the Muslims could have done would have been to stay at home and let the police get on with quelling the riot, rather than turn out with weapons and complicate the situation.
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well that’s undeniable really.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,485
David O'Day said:
see, once again you are sad old hypocrite as you attack people and say they can't talk nicely but you are so stupid you just do the same

if you can't see that a police officer is and needs to be held to a higher standard then it is a shame for you
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I'm younger than you firstly.

I speak to you with the same tone you try and speak to people. You are too thick to be able to be consistent or maybe you can't remember other things you say?
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,486
Nick said:
I'm younger than you firstly.

I speak to you with the same tone you try and speak to people. You are too thick to be able to be consistent or maybe you can't remember other things you say?
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there you go again being a hypocrite

why do you lash out when wrong?
 

MalcSB

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,487
Johnnythespider said:
Westgate on sea, just along from Margate, lovely seaside town with very friendly locals, my first time in that corner of England and if you drive through Margate without stopping a very nice part of the world
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If you drive through Margate without stopping! Hilarious
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,488
David O'Day said:
there you go again being a hypocrite

why do you lash out when wrong?
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the irony!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,489
David O'Day said:
there you go again being a hypocrite

why do you lash out when wrong?
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I'm clearly not wrong about how you aren't consistent though, am I?

You haven't actually said anything constructive and you aren't actually clever enough to realise that you go flying in saying the same things over and over when you will then say something opposite in another conversation.
 

David O'Day

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,490
Ccfcisparks said:
the irony!
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what? I'm a c**t and I know that

I'm not the one complaining that people can't talk with resulting to insults while insulting anyone who disagrees, it's the hypocritical nonsense i am on about
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,491
David O'Day said:
what? I'm a c**t and I know that

I'm not the one complaining that people can't talk with resulting to insults while insulting anyone who disagrees, it's the hypocritical nonsense i am on about
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As I said, I am using your tone because you aren't clever enough to actually discuss things.

You just go in all out on whatever cause you have this week, completely forgetting the other causes you have been number 1 ambassador on here.

I pointed out how much of a hypocrite you were, your answer is "yeah but you are".
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,492
Nick said:
I'm clearly not wrong about how you aren't consistent though, am I?

You haven't actually said anything constructive and you aren't actually clever enough to realise that you go flying in saying the same things over and over when you will then say something opposite in another conversation.
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i've said far more constructive things than you and your poundland rambo nonsense.

it's not about me Nick, it's about you being hypocritical. surely even you can understand why people as it's not just me are pointing out it's a weird flex to attack people for being abusive yet you do it yourself

call people thick as much as you want, just don't be a hypocrite
 

duffer

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,493
Gynnsthetonic said:
You can't enter a country from abroad and attack local police officers, break noses try and grab their tasers without retribution. Might make others think twice
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Erm, I think the offenders here were British citizens. I'm sure you didn't mean to imply anything else, but it pays to be clear in these situations, as we've seen.

As for retribution, you either believe in the law or you don't. It really is that simple and you need to decide which side you stand on.

Like it or not, the law doesn't allow for retribution, or revenge, it's about justice. These people will face the courts, and the courts will decide their punishment.

Whether that punishment is adequate in your or my opinion is another story, but individuals, even police officers, don't get to administer 'frontier justice', which imho, is exactly the way it should be.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,494
Nick said:
As I said, I am using your tone because you aren't clever enough to actually discuss things.

You just go in all out on whatever cause you have this week, completely forgetting the other causes you have been number 1 ambassador on here.

I pointed out how much of a hypocrite you were, your answer is "yeah but you are".
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hahaha, I tried speaking to you nicely a day or so ago but once your argument fell apart you got abusive
 

Nick

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,495
David O'Day said:
i've said far more constructive things than you and your poundland rambo nonsense.

it's not about me Nick, it's about you being hypocritical. surely even you can understand why people as it's not just me are pointing out it's a weird flex to attack people for being abusive yet you do it yourself

call people thick as much as you want, just don't be a hypocrite
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"why people not just me"

Quick, try and get some backup and get some people excited about a pile on. That's the reason ROS got an alarm and logged back in with that account rather than one of his other 2.

You aren't constructive in the slightest, you aren't anywhere near as clever as you think you are.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,496
duffer said:
Erm, I think the offenders here were British citizens. I'm sure you didn't mean to imply anything else, but it pays to be clear in these situations, as we've seen.

As for retribution, you either believe in the law or you don't. It really is that simple and you need to decide which side you stand on.

Like it or not, the law doesn't allow for retribution, or revenge, it's about justice. These people will face the courts, and the courts will decide their punishment.

Whether that punishment is adequate in your or my opinion is another story, but individuals, even police officers, don't get to administer 'frontier justice', which imho, is exactly the way it should be.
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this is exactly it

you either believe in the law or you don’t.

I can see why the Muslim guys went out with weapons- that’s my view- but what they did was wrong. The copper was also wrong.
 

Otis

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,497
My missus showed me a post from a supposed copper, who is abroad on holiday.

He said he has been watching the footage of the riots online and recognised a lot of the rioters in Stoke on Trent, as football hooligans, because he had arrested many of them before, or at least had, had confrontations.

Not surprising is it
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,498
David O'Day said:
there you go again being a hypocrite

why do you lash out when wrong?
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David O'Day

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,499
Nick said:
"why people not just me"

Quick, try and get some backup and get some people excited about a pile on. That's the reason ROS got an alarm and logged back in with that account rather than one of his other 2.

You aren't constructive in the slightest, you aren't anywhere near as clever as you think you are.
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What on earth are you talking about?

All this frankly weird behaviour from you is just because I said it's not okay to try and stamp on someone's head when they are on the floor.

Anyway crack on, i'll remember you can't have a conversation
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,500
Nick said:
"why people not just me"

Quick, try and get some backup and get some people excited about a pile on. That's the reason ROS got an alarm and logged back in with that account rather than one of his other 2.

You aren't constructive in the slightest, you aren't anywhere near as clever as you think you are.
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I don’t know what I’ve got to do with this playground squabble between you two.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,501
David O'Day said:
What on earth are you talking about?

All this frankly weird behaviour from you is just because I said it's not okay to try and stamp on someone's head when they are on the floor.

Anyway crack on, i'll remember you can't have a conversation
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Said the bloke who has posted multiple times saying he is going to "kick somebody's head in".

The issue with you is that you aren't clever enough to be consistent. You will be all over something one week and then outraged by it the next. If anything, you ruin the constructive discussions that people try to have.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,502
Otis said:
My missus showed me a post from a supposed copper, who is abroad on holiday.

He said he has been watching the footage of the riots online and recognised a lot of the rioters in Stoke on Trent, as football hooligans, because he had arrested many of them before, or at least had, had confrontations.

Not surprising is it
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loads of them are known and stupid enough not to hide who they are

even the ones who do get it wrong

 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,503
Ring Of Steel said:
this is exactly it

you either believe in the law or you don’t.

I can see why the Muslim guys went out with weapons- that’s my view- but what they did was wrong. The copper was also wrong.
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Yup this about sums it up

You can understand why ppl acted out of anger or self defence etc but don't change fact both are wrong
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,504
Ring Of Steel said:
I don’t know what I’ve got to do with this playground squabble between you two.
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Because I pointed out you logged back into this account to join a pile on, which he was trying to start again.
 

Otis

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  • Aug 5, 2024
  • #1,505
duffer said:
Erm, I think the offenders here were British citizens. I'm sure you didn't mean to imply anything else, but it pays to be clear in these situations, as we've seen.

As for retribution, you either believe in the law or you don't. It really is that simple and you need to decide which side you stand on.

Like it or not, the law doesn't allow for retribution, or revenge, it's about justice. These people will face the courts, and the courts will decide their punishment.

Whether that punishment is adequate in your or my opinion is another story, but individuals, even police officers, don't get to administer 'frontier justice', which imho, is exactly the way it should be.
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Don't want to go back all over the Manchester incident again, but you are right. The police had the right to fight back, but as soon as that suspect was on the floor and no longer a threat, that was all about revenge and not policing.

I understand it, but it was wrong.

Anyway, not going to go on anymore about it, as it's been done to death.
 
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