I'm not
Surprised at some of the comments on here though.
Not enough condemning and too much focus on supposed two facedness.
Surely everyone has to condemn all this. Some can't seemingly even bring themselves to do that and just want to justify WHY it has happened.
Even if there is justification for people to feel they are not listened to, this is not the answer
Nope.All riots are wrong.
See now that's a very fair point.
And I don't think they want it to stop.
They likely want the state to escalate and go too far.
I'm not
Surprised at some of the comments on here though.
Not enough condemning and too much focus on supposed two facedness.
Surely everyone has to condemn all this. Some can't seemingly even bring themselves to do that and just want to justify WHY it has happened.
Even if there is justification for people to feel they are not listened to, this is not the answer
When you say “this” you mean immigration? Yeah, sure. I still don’t like people doing nazi salutes and attacking random mosques though.Do you not understand the frustrations around this that have been growing over the last few years?
This is why talk of ‘send the army in’ concerns me. One miscalculation and the state kills one of its own.See now that's a very fair point.
And I don't think they want it to stop.
They likely want the state to escalate and go too far.
I say they are. Innocents always get hurt and businesses get caught up in it all and looting ensues etc.Nope.
Explicitly? Where?Farage has called for violence to stop
See, this is the problem. You want an explanation of the causes of these riots, but not prepared to give one for the BLM riots
In law breaking and dodgy contracts for his mates perhapsThere was no austerity at that time. He spent shitloads
I think the government have repeatedly lied to the public about the ability to control immigration .. it's always been a hot topic and a thing many voters deem important ..
The country even voted leave pretty much because they were told (and lied to ) that uncontrolled immigration would be nipped in the bud .
What really needs to happen is a proper honest conversation about this , where politicians tell the public ( many who are not rioting) but are at home and want action to tackle uncontrolled migration and their communities being changed without a care for what they think .
And they don't want to be called far right for thinking it , I think uncontrolled immigration is a joke and out of control and I'm not "far right"
Nationality and Borders Act or llegal Migration Act I would imagine. You'd have entered the country under deception, unless you're talking about Sur-place applications but those are a tiny percentage.What law would that be?
When you say “this” you mean immigration? Yeah, sure. I still don’t like people doing nazi salutes and attacking random mosques though.
i just did. BLM was institutional racism. If you want some kind of ‘verification’ look at the findings of the Met Police & the fact that the city of Bristol worked to remove all trace of Colston. The causes of Palestine are clear.
Here there is no link between what happened in Southport and what’s happening now. It’s an excuse for disgusting people to do disgusting things, end of.
And I condemn anything where protest turns to rioting. There is it, in black and white for you.
Would you say the same I wonder?
i just did. BLM was institutional racism. If you want some kind of ‘verification’ look at the findings of the Met Police & the fact that the city of Bristol worked to remove all trace of Colston. The causes of Palestine are clear.
Here there is no link between what happened in Southport and what’s happening now. It’s an excuse for disgusting people to do disgusting things, end of.
And I condemn anything where protest turns to rioting. There is it, in black and white for you.
Would you say the same I wonder?
Your right about that TBF ,all I want is a prescription for an abscess!Be fair- they're only doing that/looting vape shops/burning libraries cos...checks notes...they cant get a dentists appointment
So articulate what it is about then?Yes I would. What is happening here and now is wrong.
What happened in Bristol in 2021 was wrong
Agree?
Also, if you think these riots are all about Southport then you aren't listening. One of our soldiers was stabbed multiple times in the street last week and it barely made the news
He basically nationalised the economy during lockdownIn law breaking and dodgy contracts for his mates perhaps
They haven't been riot's have they?Must be like when I pointed out the trouble in BLM or Palestine threads where everybody just agreed that some people were being cunts? Oh, wait.
Absolutely agree with this but I fear that the type of people out rioting don't really want to engage in those conversations. I've asked the question on here, what would you do from the point we are at now, and been met with nothing but laughing emojis.What really needs to happen is a proper honest conversation about this , where politicians tell the public ( many who are not rioting but are at home and want action to tackle uncontrolled migration and their communities being changed without a care for what they think ) what they plan to do and if it's actually achievable , instead of lying for votes
They do have legitimate channels. They buy a plane ticket, and then at arrival on the border they request asylum
The small boats lot are the equivalent of someone who kicks your door in and then asks to use your phone because they need help. The answer from most normal people would be f. off.
They haven't been riot's have they?
Yes I would. What is happening here and now is wrong.
What happened in Bristol in 2021 was wrong
Agree?
Also, if you think these riots are all about Southport then you aren't listening. One of our soldiers was stabbed multiple times in the street last week and it barely made the news
Which has filtered up the chain and got back to the elite?He basically nationalised the economy during lockdown
Hence all the inflation
Shame you were deliberately disengenuous and obstructive over them, looked for the ah but, and wouldn't accept it was a minority while the majority actually protested peacefully. Meanwhile, people are quite happy to condemn those who caused violence but they were *not* the rallies. If there was actually a minority here it would be the minority, but it's the sodding whole point of them!Must be like when I pointed out the trouble in BLM or Palestine threads where everybody just agreed that some people were being cunts? Oh, wait.
How else are the working class supposed to express disaffection with the owners of production?I say they are. Innocents always get hurt and businesses get caught up in it all and looting ensues etc.
I have no problem with protests. I do have a problem with violence.
Oh no sorry if I've been misconstrued,the Palestine marches!On about the trouble or when I said stuff about mindless behaviour in America as well.
Enough is enough and the rioting, started as a result of the Southport stabbing.Yes I would. What is happening here and now is wrong.
What happened in Bristol in 2021 was wrong
Agree?
Also, if you think these riots are all about Southport then you aren't listening. One of our soldiers was stabbed multiple times in the street last week and it barely made the news
So articulate what it is about then?
Saying ‘I don’t support street violence’ is not the same as saying ‘get off the streets’ or some other directive statement.22 seconds in
If your life was legitimately in danger in your home country, why, after finding safety in France would you then once again risk your life in the English Channel?Do you seriously think people would take all of the risk and expense of travelling across Europe and then jumping on an overloaded small inflatable to cross the busiest shipping lane in the world if they could just hop on a plane and do it?
C'mon mate, try harder.
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