Nice whataboutery.
This individual is clearly a cretin. Does that make you feel better? Can we call the Nazis who have been rioting far right yet?
Nice whataboutery.Are all marches that include Nazi salutes "far right"
Strange that the left defended the pro Hamas marches
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This person is clearly an arsehole. It’s possible to have sympathy with a specific cause while acknowledging individuals like this are the wrong side of the line.
Nice whataboutery though. Are you in support of the rioters from a self proclaimed Nazi group attacking hotels?
I’m not supporting rioters.Unlike you I'm not in support of any rioters..
Out of interest, which group is it attacking hotels?
I’m not supporting rioters.
That is one person appearing to do a Nazi salute"Nazi salutes are fine when I agree with the ends"
Not sure this is as easy as you're making it out to be.No it doesn't.
If you want to apply for asylum here, you obtain a tourist visa, buy a plane ticket, and then apply at the border. That website ignores that option for some reason
That is one person appearing to do a Nazi salute
One
If that IS him doing a Nazi salute, then he is far right.
Where are the rest of the people doing the Nazi salute there?
Not going to help things at all and you have to hope this isn't repeated elsewhere. Has to be expected thought I guess. If you're seeing footage of people being attacked for being the wrong colour there will be people who respond even when it's going to make things worse.BBC reporting that a crowd of around 200 Asian men charged a police line in Bolton with chants of Allahu Akbar
Good. You agree that the BLM riots, the Jew hate marches, the Leeds riots, the Manchester police station riots are all wrong?
Not sure this is as easy as you're making it out to be.
Currently one of the biggest groups of asylum seekers, at least from the latest figures I can find, are Syrian.
Now lets supposed some has fled Syria and has all their documentation with them, they also have a working bank card with a bank that is operational and they have money in their account. If they are able to complete the online application do you think if they turn up at their screening it is going to be believed they're popping over for a holiday?
How would obtaining a tourist visa by deception impact any future asylum application?
If it was that easy wouldn't the government be broadcasting this all over calais. You'd stop the boats in an instant if you told people they could get a visa and book a £50 EasyJet flight.Immigration Act 1971
An Act to amend and replace the present immigration laws, to make certain related changes in the citizenship law and enable help to be given to those wishing to return abroad, and for purposes connected therewith.www.legislation.gov.uk
Let's not confuse himNot sure this is as easy as you're making it out to be.
Currently one of the biggest groups of asylum seekers, at least from the latest figures I can find, are Syrian.
Now lets supposed some has fled Syria and has all their documentation with them, they also have a working bank card with a bank that is operational and they have money in their account. If they are able to complete the online application do you think if they turn up at their screening it is going to be believed they're popping over for a holiday?
How would obtaining a tourist visa by deception impact any future asylum application?
If it was that easy wouldn't the government be broadcasting this all over calais. You'd stop the boats in an instant if you told people they could get a visa and book a £50 EasyJet flight.Immigration Act 1971
An Act to amend and replace the present immigration laws, to make certain related changes in the citizenship law and enable help to be given to those wishing to return abroad, and for purposes connected therewith.www.legislation.gov.uk
He was talking about rioters.As the PM just said, joining those people means you're aligning yourself with them.
Or do you disagree with him?
??? Why the whataboutery?Here's another
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Anyone throwing the straight arm whether its this bloke on a Hamas march or the rioters at Bolton is a c**t.
"Nazi salutes are fine when I agree with the ends"
Can you agree people doing Nazi salutes are far right instead of changing topic?
Been out for a few hours and catching up on this thread is thoroughly depressing. The amount of whataboutary and attempts to political point score while the country literarily burns and innocent people, not to mention the police, are being attacked is sad to see.
Again, if he is making a Nazi salute, same thingHere's another
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No, he specifically mentioned Nazi salutesHe was talking about rioters.
Where is the rioting in that photo?
Yes, absolutely.
Do you agree that everyone who does Nazi's salutes are far right?
Do you also agree that not everyone in the same crowd is a Nazi? (or do you think all the pro Hamas lot are Nazi's?)
No. Criminal damage in itself is not necessarily rioting is it. Obviously.No, he specifically mentioned Nazi salutes
In terms of rioting, what is your definition? I would consider it criminal damage. Would you agree?
Nick the king of tiresome whataboutery.Funny thing is, it's a very good point about if people have issues when there are other riots.
The hypocrisy from some is fucking embarrassing and strangely they are the people who keep shouting the loudest, unable to actually have a discussion and just want to live in a little bubble. Using their weird phrases and blowing smoke up each other's arses.
They don't even realise it. Just change the demographic of people committing offenses or rioting and strangely, they go from end of the spectrum to the other.
Absolutely no interest in constructive discussions.
I’m not playing your games because you want to run interference for people fighting the police and trying to attack migrants and randoms.
All riots are wrong.Funny thing is, it's a very good point about if people have issues when there are other riots.
The hypocrisy from some is fucking embarrassing and strangely they are the people who keep shouting the loudest, unable to actually have a discussion and just want to live in a little bubble. Using their weird phrases and blowing smoke up each other's arses.
They don't even realise it. Just change the demographic of people committing offenses or rioting and strangely, they go from end of the spectrum to the other.
Absolutely no interest in constructive discussions.
I think people are sick or tiresome diversion.Why is it people literally can't answer questions?
Not really as the situations or damage caused are remotely equivalent.Funny thing is, it's a very good point about if people have issues when there are other riots.
The hypocrisy from some is fucking embarrassing and strangely they are the people who keep shouting the loudest, unable to actually have a discussion and just want to live in a little bubble. Using their weird phrases and blowing smoke up each other's arses.
They don't even realise it. Just change the demographic of people committing offenses or rioting and strangely, they go from end of the spectrum to the other.
Absolutely no interest in constructive discussions.
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