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What I could imagine is Thatcher's response to this... and it'd be pretty brutal in its putdown.
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The Conservative free market was supposed to be the answer. Free movement of labour to meet flexible market demand.Agree completely on violent attacks- nobody should be doing that.
Do you think immigration at any point can be a problem? Or do you believe that the UK can allow an infinite number of people in?
If you do think there's a limit, or a point that it doesn't start to affect the population that's already here - can you give me a figure?
The Conservative free market was supposed to be the answer. Free movement of labour to meet flexible market demand.
There are issues, many are vastly exaggerated.
But then again
'Muslims, Islam, P****, burn a Mosque', Tommy, EDL, brick the police, burn a police station.
Isn't it, is it?
Because the free market was supposed to manage immigration numbers to demand.What's that got to do with the question I asked?
You see I'd go with your argument but Sunderland's still got great poverty *despite* Nissan - it's been a fraction of what was lost and far more than around these parts, which is still well down on its heydey despite JLR and a couple of others. In a general sense it suffers a bit for being number two to Newcastle - it sees the investment go there, and Newcastle becoming fashionable and feels left behind. You get that in other places too - Swansea to Cardiff for example. Go outside a bit to the likes of Darlington and it gets worse... and it is fair to say that as with about the whole country, there's a feeling everything is London-centric. In many ways Johnson had the right idea with levelling up, but the fact it hasn't actually happens magnifies the issues.Sunderland is a prime example with the Nissan plant making it very prosperous
Yep, you only have to look at Orgreave to see what she would have done.What I could imagine is Thatcher's response to this... and it'd be pretty brutal in its putdown.
Lots of ethnic minorities and migrants working in the NHS and care system, as doctors and nurses and carers etc
Nowt to stop a white British person from doing these same jobs.
I know there aren't that many right wing thugs, but the problem is, it doesn't take many to then fire everyone else up.
They turn up and cause trouble and it must be very easy to join in, throwing bricks, start overturning cars and setting fire to them and looting.
Doesn't take much to instigate things. Same with thuggy anarchists.
Does It not worry you that, like you say, there is no known connection to Islam to the Southport murders yet, but people target mosques anyway? Just because the MO is similar.Distressing scenes to be sure, but I feel there is genuine despair behind it all.
The rioters need to articulate what they are actually rioting about fairly quickly as they are already being dismissed as "far-right" thugs and racists by the MSM and the chronically insensitive.
This article possibly sums up a list of the legitimate grievances that many have: Britain is coming apart at the seams
Islam seems to be the de facto target, which really doesn't surprise me. I know there is no known connection to the Southport murders (yet), but the MO is a familiar one.
Previous generations have shed blood to keep Islam out of Europe. Yes, I am well aware that there are many decent Muslims, but collectively, they do have a habit of swamping any host countries that eventually become predominantly Islamic. Suffice to say this scares a lot of people.
Any examples in that total nonsense?Previous generations have shed blood to keep Islam out of Europe. Yes, I am well aware that there are many decent Muslims, but collectively, they do have a habit of swamping any host countries that eventually become predominantly Islamic. Suffice to say this scares a lot of people.
Lots of ethnic minorities and migrants working in the NHS and care system, as doctors and nurses and carers etc
Nowt to stop a white British person from doing these same jobs.
I know there aren't that many right wing thugs, but the problem is, it doesn't take many to then fire everyone else up.
They turn up and cause trouble and it must be very easy to join in, throwing bricks, start overturning cars and setting fire to them and looting.
Doesn't take much to instigate things. Same with thuggy anarchists.
Have you examples of where host countries have been swamped and then become predominantly Islamic?Distressing scenes to be sure, but I feel there is genuine despair behind it all.
The rioters need to articulate what they are actually rioting about fairly quickly as they are already being dismissed as "far-right" thugs and racists by the MSM and the chronically insensitive.
This article possibly sums up a list of the legitimate grievances that many have: Britain is coming apart at the seams
Islam seems to be the de facto target, which really doesn't surprise me. I know there is no known connection to the Southport murders (yet), but the MO is a familiar one.
Previous generations have shed blood to keep Islam out of Europe. Yes, I am well aware that there are many decent Muslims, but collectively, they do have a habit of swamping any host countries that eventually become predominantly Islamic. Suffice to say this scares a lot of people.
It's not that though is it. Just one of the arguments against migration always seems to be that they come over here, get benefits and take our jobs.Again, people go straight to NHS workers if anybody mentions immigration concerns.
You see what I see is an MO that's similar to people who've been rejected for a job / by a woman etc and go a little bit mental.Any examples in that total nonsense?
Ps. Muslims are people, individuals.
Apologies that was meant for EastwoodsdustmanDo me a favour and please quote me where I have said that these riots are the British people "rising against the establishment".
Yep, loads of videos on Twitter. Thugs surrounding a taxi. Another video of Kids kicking in the front door of a terraced house.
I'd say there's more chance of him being a radical Muslim than him being turned down for a job at the nursery.You see what I see is an MO that's similar to people who've been rejected for a job / by a woman etc and go a little bit mental.
I'll probably end up totally wrong on that, which is why it's best not to speculate or come to judgement really isn't it!
Do you see anything different about individual Muslims being targeted in their homes, shops, taxis, mosques?There always will be, it was a couple of weeks ago you had kids in Leeds being encouraged to attack police cars by their parents but strangely you had nothing to say about it and police were running away.
If it's a different demographic you are sat finding as many videos about it as you can. Even when asked about it, just completely ignored.
Its literally no different to somebody sitting online looking for as much as they can find about Muslims or immigrants.
Its stuff like this that is part of the problem. Notice the "part" and not "all of".
It's not that though is it. Just one of the arguments against migration always seems to be that they come over here, get benefits and take our jobs.
Lots of ethnic minorities and migrants working in the NHS and care system, as doctors and nurses and carers etc
Nowt to stop a white British person from doing these same jobs.
I know there aren't that many right wing thugs, but the problem is, it doesn't take many to then fire everyone else up.
They turn up and cause trouble and it must be very easy to join in, throwing bricks, start overturning cars and setting fire to them and looting.
Doesn't take much to instigate things. Same with thuggy anarchists.
Yes.So clearly if they are working they aren't taking benefits?
Do you have the figures for those working in other industries and fields, out of interest?Around 200,000 non uk nationals work in the health system
Net migration was 700,000 last year
Have you examples of where host countries have been swamped and then become predominantly Islamic?
'Our system has collapsed. We are at the end. The main reason for this is the continuing influx of refugees,' he said. 'I'm calling for a freeze on refugee admissions, otherwise it would no longer be possible to provide help.'
Around 200,000 non uk nationals work in the health system
Net migration was 700,000 last year
So clearly if they are working they aren't taking benefits?
Yes.
One or the other. They are always accused. Either taking our jobs OR claiming benefits.
So, why didn't Brexit allow us to "take control of our borders"? That's the lie they sold, wasn't it?
Who's "he?"
I thought the 'go to' argument also included:I bet you will find that the vast majority of people with issues about immigration have no issue with people working in the NHS. Working and contributing, full stop.
It's just a go to argument about doctors, nurses and engineers.
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