He isn't saying to cut the throats of women and children.
Wait, I thought people hated "whataboutery"?
Amazing how people are trying to use it now a labour councillor and a leader of a charity with hundreds of thousands of followers on Twitter have been found out.
"Cut the throats of the women and children"
"Yeah but dave653466 with union jacks retweeted something"
Its fucking hilarious how people can't see it.
Call me mad, but I can’t see anyone who’s done that?
Call me mad, but I can’t see anyone who’s done that?
"We have got children and women using those trends during the summer holidays.
They are disgusting nazi facists and we need to cut their throats and get rid of them all"
That's what is said on the video.
Watching it. If somebody has edited it and cut bits out then it's an amazing job. Not impossible but a very, very good job of doing it.
In response to that labour councillor.
who has said “yeah but the other side did this?” Not saying they haven’t, I haven’t seen it.
there’s no middle ground, it’s wrong
Sixty-nine year old bloke jailed for 32 months for joining in with the Southport riots. I mean, what a fucking idiot. In the place where three girls were murdered, he was at the front of the "baying" mob.
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set fire to bins and a library which had a food bank in it. And end up with a record and the humiliation of being publicised like this.. total madness
And in the very place where the girls were murdered! Fucking hell.set fire to bins and a library which had a food bank in it. And end up with a record and the humiliation of being publicised like this.. total madness
Presumably all are aware of the Austrian Taylor Swift gigs cancelled due to the threat of Islamic terrorism?
Presumably people aren't that bothered about the 11 young girls knifed (3 dead)? The Rotherham/Oxford/Rochdale/Telford girls didn't seem to be worth bothering about.
Are you sure you're all on the right side of this discussion?
Better head down to the local mosque for your free samosa..
Presumably all are aware of the Austrian Taylor Swift gigs cancelled due to the threat of Islamic terrorism?
Presumably people aren't that bothered about the 11 young girls knifed (3 dead)? The Rotherham/Oxford/Rochdale/Telford girls didn't seem to be worth bothering about.
Are you sure you're all on the right side of this discussion?
Better head down to the local mosque for your free samosa..
Again, while there's so many people posting who have been keeping a close eye on things going on.
How many mosques were attacked in total?
I'm genuinely asking as I can't see more than Southport.
Is it an erosion of civil liberties to have a punishment unrelated to the crime?
Incitement to violence and murder,
Labour showing their true colours
2 tier again
It's a football club; not a human right. You say some strange things.
If my club decides it doesn't want someone through the doors who attacks police and demonstrably hates people that aren't born here, or look like they weren't born here, I'm good with that. Why would they want to cheer on a bunch of immigrants anyway? People arguing a convicted, violent criminal should be welcomed back to their football club the minute they're released is weird.
no idea.
Is there a threshold or something- up to 5 and it’s ok, any more and it’s not ok?
Are you sure you're all on the right side of this discussion?
It's a football club; not a human right. You say some strange things.
If my club decides it doesn't want someone through the doors who attacks police and demonstrably hates people that aren't born here, or look like they weren't born here, I'm good with that. Why would they want to cheer on a bunch of immigrants anyway? People arguing a convicted, violent criminal should be welcomed back to their football club the minute they're released is weird.
Just be careful of the hype element of it all, I think the travel ban esta or whatever it is comes in next year, obviously no use to many of them here on!No, I am just asking how many actually were after the Muslim community were whipped up that the EDL were coming to attack them. (again, just saying that somebody was drumming it into them that they were going to be attacked)
Surely with all of the footage and the instant news it would be easy to find out?
I think that’s a different argument. I was responding specifically to the comment of what next, ban anyone who’s been to prison. To get a football banning order you don’t even have to have been convicted let alone have had a custodial sentence, the police can request a banning order based upon intelligence.Banning orders for football offences and football related though, not spent custodial sentences. You can't make up your own rules simply because you dont like the narrative. I want them banned too, but that's not how a fair society works and you're bending the rules to suit your agenda.
It's really strange round here, the same folk normally pushing for this kind of thing, when it doesnt suit and you point out the hypocrisy (on both sides yes), never say 'actually you're right I agree' or 'I've changed my mind' simply radio silence or doubling down.
Always on the right side of killing the children and adults in the thousands in Gaza mate, leave that race alone!Presumably all are aware of the Austrian Taylor Swift gigs cancelled due to the threat of Islamic terrorism?
Presumably people aren't that bothered about the 11 young girls knifed (3 dead)? The Rotherham/Oxford/Rochdale/Telford girls didn't seem to be worth bothering about.
Are you sure you're all on the right side of this discussion?
Better head down to the local mosque for your free samosa..
Can’t see it. I thought I’d read that he was a known member of the EDL, maybe I got that wrong.Have you got a link?
I can see:
"In his police interview, Drummond said he "believed his behaviour was appalling" and accepted the footage showed his behaviour. Drummond has 14 previous convictions for 19 offences between December 1988 and January 2007."
"This includes “a past history of violence”, including three months at Preston Crown Court in 1994 for wounding without intent. He was also fined for a public order offence in 1995."
I am not saying you are wrong, just asking where that was said and that it might be dangerous to banning people for racism based on what they hear online?
I'm not saying he isn't by the way. I'm just pointing out the danger of rumours.Can’t see it. I thought I’d read that he was a known member of the EDL, maybe I got that wrong.
I think the latter at least is indisputable. I said yesterday that some people are just attracted to violence and will always latch onto a cause to excuse their behaviour. Maybe he’s just one of those.I'm not saying he isn't by the way. I'm just pointing out the danger of rumours.
He might well be a horrible violent c**t though!
I showed his "cat wankers" video to a mate the other week - that's probably been triggered by you as well haha.I sympathise with Tate, all that money he likes to show off and i still bagged his Mrs. What can i say, Big Dick Energy vs Small Dick Energy.
Nick, mate, you’re starting to wind me up now and I said I wouldn’t get wound up again over this stuff.
Firstly, the “whataboutery” episode - seems GIMOC flagged the Hope Not Hate chap as making the list thing up, Torch challenged he hadn’t but had circulated it and then highlighted that GIMOC themself had spread the “Muslim/over on a boat” thing in relation to the Southport attacker. Now, you might want to throw out the “ha, you’re using ‘whataboutery’” but when the person raising the first point has literally shown no sign of remorse over the false spreading of information I think that’s a fair call-out. Haven’t seen you directly criticise GIMOC once for the initial incident by the way - maybe you have and I’ve missed it.
AFAIK the only confirmed attacks on mosques were Southport and Sunderland. After this, it seems there was an announcement that mosques would receive extra protection and the threat dissipated - whether that’s directly linked or coincidental I don’t know.
All I ask is stop this pathetic crusade of “calling out hypocrisy” especially when some of the main protagonists in the unsavoury posts seem to just drift by without comment.
All I ask is stop this pathetic crusade of “calling out hypocrisy”...
There is a lot of calling out for people on the left who ‘disappear’ when certain topics get brought up but not a peep said about the scores of posters who had nothing to say when the far right were trying to burn down a hotel on Sunday night and then suddenly appeared again on Monday night when there was trouble with Muslims in Birmingham. It’s so transparent.Nick, mate, you’re starting to wind me up now and I said I wouldn’t get wound up again over this stuff.
Firstly, the “whataboutery” episode - seems GIMOC flagged the Hope Not Hate chap as making the list thing up, Torch challenged he hadn’t but had circulated it and then highlighted that GIMOC themself had spread the “Muslim/over on a boat” thing in relation to the Southport attacker. Now, you might want to throw out the “ha, you’re using ‘whataboutery’” but when the person raising the first point has literally shown no sign of remorse over the false spreading of information I think that’s a fair call-out. Haven’t seen you directly criticise GIMOC once for the initial incident by the way - maybe you have and I’ve missed it.
AFAIK the only confirmed attacks on mosques were Southport and Sunderland. After this, it seems there was an announcement that mosques would receive extra protection and the threat dissipated - whether that’s directly linked or coincidental I don’t know.
All I ask is stop this pathetic crusade of “calling out hypocrisy” especially when some of the main protagonists in the unsavoury posts seem to just drift by without comment.
Brilliant point.
We had riots around the country based on Social Media bullsh*t; losing that in a fog of 'Yeah, but...' is grim.
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