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Gathering for Tommy / Discontent (1 Viewer)

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David O'Day

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,606
Nick said:
Yeah it's interesting because it's what's been happening over the last few days.

People have been whipped up to be scared of masses of neo Nazis roaming the streets.
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Ok, not sure what that has to with my "reaction".

But okay, if you say so.
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,607
GIMOC said:
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He’s a councillor for Labour
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If that's genuine and he has said those things. He should be charged and put behind bars for a bit. ANY form of extremism is a crime and creates more division. Don't think anyone on here disagrees and no one sympathises with these idiots. Wish I could say on here no one sympsthises with Tate/StephenYaxley-Lennon or Lee Anderson, with their incitement.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,608
GIMOC said:
on the topic of misformation

all the meltdowns on here yesterday about last night was going to be full of right wing thugs
View attachment 37573turns out your hero made it up

2tier at it finest again
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And an anti-racist message is bad how exactly?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,609
clint van damme said:
Wonder if this woman will face any consequences? Times making some claims against her.

https://archive.ph/2024.08.07-184043/https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/mother-of-three-sparked-havoc-with-false-claim-about-southport-suspect-bd6kkzgpn
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I guess the punishment should be based on if she conspired and planned for it for a reason compared to if she copied and pasted it and posted it like millions of others.

If it's found that it was a plot done on purpose then 100%.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,610
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
If that's genuine and he has said those things. He should be charged and put behind bars for a bit. ANY form of extremism is a crime and creates more division. Don't think anyone on here disagrees and no one sympathises with these idiots. Wish I could say on here no one sympsthises with Tate/StephenYaxley-Lennon or Lee Anderson, with their incitement.
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No one sympathises with these on here Charles
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,611
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
If that's genuine and he has said those things. He should be charged and put behind bars for a bit. ANY form of extremism is a crime and creates more division. Don't think anyone on here disagrees and no one sympathises with these idiots. Wish I could say on here no one sympsthises with Tate/StephenYaxley-Lennon or Lee Anderson, with their incitement.
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Aren't you just making more things up based on fuck all?

Its amazing if you dig into where the majority of misinformation and hate has been on this thread.
 

TomRad85

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,612
clint van damme said:
You have to be pretty stupid to think nick lowles is a wrong un so I'm going to support robinson. Especially if that support extends to helping finance his luxury medditeranean holidays
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Honestly i think highlighting crazies from the 'other side' is a pretty common way to pull people further down their overly online political rabbit holes.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,613
Grendel said:
No one sympathises with these on here Charles
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I sympathise with Tate, all that money he likes to show off and i still bagged his Mrs. What can i say, Big Dick Energy vs Small Dick Energy.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,614
Exactly! People bang on about him so much but some will actually do his marketing for him.


TomRad85 said:
Honestly i think highlighting crazies from the 'other side' is a pretty common way to pull people further down their overly online political rabbit holes.
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GIMOC

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,615
Ring Of Steel said:
Robinson & Hopkins now going after Farage and trying to get Elon Mu


And an anti-racist message is bad how exactly?
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depends who delivering the message

look at the labour councillor above

is that a good message to be spreading?
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,616
GIMOC said:
he is a labour councillor

another fine example of 2 tier labour View attachment 37575
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I think you know what side of this debate I’m on, but if he’s genuinely standing there urging people to go find a few throats to cut, then he needs dealing with.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,617
Ring Of Steel said:
I think you know what side of this debate I’m on, but if he’s genuinely standing there urging people to go find a few throats to cut, then he needs dealing with.
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Its pretty clear and dry what he's saying about women and children.
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,618
GIMOC said:
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He’s a councillor for Labour
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Looking at Dartford BC website does look remarkably similar to this chap. Sure people will check. I will ask a mate who works at Dartford BC if he knows of this Councillor.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,619
torchomatic said:
He didn't make the list up. He said it was made up. A bit like you did with the Southport murderer. Said he was a Muslim asylum seeker who came in on a boat last summer, didn't you?
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and then got all wound up when anyone urged a bit of time for the actual facts to come out.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,620
Newspapers who have demonised immigrants and asylum seekers for years now celebrating the anti-fascists. Couldn't make it up.


 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,621
Wait, I thought people hated "whataboutery"?

Amazing how people are trying to use it now a labour councillor and a leader of a charity with hundreds of thousands of followers on Twitter have been found out.

"Cut the throats of the women and children"
"Yeah but dave653466 with union jacks retweeted something"

Its fucking hilarious how people can't see it.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,622
GIMOC said:
depends who delivering the message

look at the labour councillor above

is that a good message to be spreading?
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answer the question without deflecting.

is an anti-racism message a bad thing?
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,623
torchomatic said:
Newspapers who have demonised immigrants and asylum seekers for years now celebrating the anti-fascists. Couldn't make it up.
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It is massively hypocritical. They’ll be going back to stirring up people like GIMOC in a few days with the endless anti-immigrant rhetoric.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,624
GIMOC said:
depends who delivering the message

look at the labour councillor above

is that a good message to be spreading?
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Surely, you will have to post something from far-right agitators for "balance" on here? You'll have plenty of material to choose from.
 

torchomatic

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,625
Ring Of Steel said:
It is massively hypocritical. They’ll be going back to stirring up people like GIMOC in a few days with the endless anti-immigrant rhetoric.
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Well, that won't be hard.
 
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nicksar

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,626
rob9872 said:
Only thing is I dont want to welcome them. I'm actually ok with the banning orders but what I do want is consistency and that would be unfair on those as in Nicksar's example of someone who has genuinely been rehabilitated. Unfortunately I think most of the time rehabilitation is a myth and they just learn new tricks and have no intention of bettering themselves or society.
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Funnily enough Rob I've been digging deep into my memory and recall another lad I used to play football with,he went to prison for a shortish sentence and when he came out he did a degree and had a long career as a probation officer.
Also in the last job I had prior to retirement my manager (who was a decent bloke,from Leamington as it happens) surprised me once by telling me he had been to prison for robbing a post office.
Obviously a very small sample but a lot of people can go on to be decent citizens after serving time in prison.
Hopefully some of the young Neds that have been nicked will learn the error of their ways after serving a bit of time in prison.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,627
Ring Of Steel said:
answer the question without deflecting.

is an anti-racism message a bad thing?
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Depends on the message. Doesn't it?

I could say I'm delivering an anti racism message but say something completely different.

I'm not sure "free Palestine" or "from the river to the sea" is an anti racism message.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,628
Ring Of Steel said:
It is massively hypocritical. They’ll be going back to stirring up people like GIMOC in a few days with the endless anti-immigrant rhetoric.
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Can you and @torchomatic really not see the irony?
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,629
Grendel said:
No one sympathises with these on here Charles
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No one ? Bold statement. Maybe not you but defo some.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,630
torchomatic said:
Surely, you will have to post something from far-right agitators for "balance" on here? You'll have plenty of material to choose from.
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Genuine question, how many mosques have been attacked? Nobody seems to answer.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,631
Nick said:
Wait, I thought people hated "whataboutery"?

Amazing how people are trying to use it now a labour councillor and a leader of a charity with hundreds of thousands of followers on Twitter have been found out.

"Cut the throats of the women and children"
"Yeah but dave653466 with union jacks retweeted something"

Its fucking hilarious how people can't see it.
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He isn't saying to cut the throats of women and children.
 

torchomatic

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,632
SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
No one ? Bold statement. Maybe not you but defo some.
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A few have said they go on the Robinson marches.
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,633
Nick said:
Wait, I thought people hated "whataboutery"?

Amazing how people are trying to use it now a labour councillor and a leader of a charity with hundreds of thousands of followers on Twitter have been found out.

"Cut the throats of the women and children"
"Yeah but dave653466 with union jacks retweeted something"

Its fucking hilarious how people can't see it.
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Small point but this deluded and dangerous individual never said cut the throats of women and children!
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,634
Nick said:
It’s pretty clear and dry what he's saying about women and children.
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I know, and I don’t disagree that what he’s doing there is as bad as some of the stuff from the ‘other side’.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,635
Nick said:
Depends on the message. Doesn't it?

I could say I'm delivering an anti racism message but say something completely different.

I'm not sure "free Palestine" or "from the river to the sea" is an anti racism message.
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I’m not on about that, I’m asking if- in general- an anti-racism message is a bad thing to be disseminating.
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,636
torchomatic said:
Newspapers who have demonised immigrants and asylum seekers for years now celebrating the anti-fascists. Couldn't make it up.
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The past 24 hours has been like it was all set up from the start

social media needs banning (because they don’t agree with musk)

the cynic in me could think the government made up this list of ‘100’ protests

spread the word knowing it was fake

Right wing centre and left wing corporate media editors appear to have received orders from the powers

In the meantime you had a Manchester policeman looking to be held hostage

 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,637
PVA said:
He isn't saying to cut the throats of women and children.
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"We have got children and women using those trends during the summer holidays.

They are disgusting nazi facists and we need to cut their throats and get rid of them all"

That's what is said on the video. Maybe he's just worded it badly.

Watching it. If somebody has edited it and cut bits out then it's an amazing job. Not impossible but a very, very good job of doing it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,638
Ring Of Steel said:
I’m not on about that, I’m asking if- in general- an anti-racism message is a bad thing to be disseminating.
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That's the point though.

I can say I'm having an anti racism protest later but I'm sitting on call of duty.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,639
Nick said:
Can you and @torchomatic really not see the irony?
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No not really. They’ve spent years demonising immigrants.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #3,640
Ring Of Steel said:
No not really. They’ve spent years demonising immigrants.
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Again, have a look at the brain washing.

Its very much like COVID again.
 
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