He's not, they have though given the police the details of who did thisI'm not sure he's saying it was him though?
Although he said "It's a hoax" and is now saying "it's not a hoax and the person who did it is dangerous".
You would think he is top of the targets as well for spreading lies?
I think it was reported having come up in court.Just saying it's a very dangerous precedent to set.
You have said because he has convictions of racism, is that true or hearsay? What if the club ban him based on that but it isn't?
And? We are talking about the list and Gimoc saying it was really made by the head of Hope Not Hate.Again, much like saying a Muslim woman was attacked with acid?
I think it was reported having come up in court.
And? We are talking about the list and Gimoc saying it was really made by the head of Hope Not Hate.
Gimoc countering claims he spread misinformation with more misinformation,
That is the point
Not one takes Hope not hate seriously. Well no one who's not already quite far down a rabbit hole.Again, much like saying a Muslim woman was attacked with acid?
Not one takes Hope not hate seriously. Well no one who's not already quite far down a rabbit hole.
Banning orders for football offences and football related though, not spent custodial sentences. You can't make up your own rules simply because you dont like the narrative. I want them banned too, but that's not how a fair society works and you're bending the rules to suit your agenda.Plenty of people are on banning orders without having been to prison. I’m not sure why people feel the need to connect the two things. Any club should have the right to refuse his business based on his history. I’d even have a duty of care to other fans. I’m not suggesting indefinite bans, except maybe that 58 year old, there seems to be more than enough evidence that that is just who he is.
Then he should go after this tool as well i suppose, but is misinformation a crime? I'm pretty sure its not. Seems like a scare tactic.I get that, Starmer said he's going after people misinforming and he has done a lot of that to stir up trouble.
Of course, if Patriot765445 with 7 followers was spreading lies then find them too.
tbf I thought I was sort of agreeing with your general point and we were having a nice civilised chatBanning orders for football offences and football related though, not spent custodial sentences. You can't make up your own rules simply because you dont like the narrative. I want them banned too, but that's not how a fair society works and you're bending the rules to suit your agenda.
It's really strange round here, the same folk normally pushing for this kind of thing, when it doesnt suit and you point out the hypocrisy (on both sides yes), never say 'actually you're right I agree' or 'I've changed my mind' simply radio silence or doubling down.
Only thing is I dont want to welcome them. I'm actually ok with the banning orders but what I do want is consistency and that would be unfair on those as in Nicksar's example of someone who has genuinely been rehabilitated. Unfortunately I think most of the time rehabilitation is a myth and they just learn new tricks and have no intention of bettering themselves or society.tbf I thought I was sort of agreeing with your general point and we were having a nice civilised chat
All for rehabilitation, former racists are welcome at CCFC as an example to us all.
Labour showing their true colours
2 tier again
I would (maybe naively!) suggest racism is something that can change as a view through time.Only thing is I dont want to welcome them. I'm actually ok with the banning orders but what I do want is consistency and that would be unfair on those as in Nicksar's example of someone who has genuinely been rehabilitated. Unfortunately I think most of the time rehabilitation is a myth and they just learn new tricks and have no intention of bettering themselves or society.
There's been a lot of the edl, neo Nazis, the "fash" etc spread and whipped. The only mention of edl has been from what you would call "the left".
Weird how he gets an applause for suggesting cutting women and children's throats though.
It will be interesting to see the people who are charged with the race crimes (like the hotel fire).
Can anybody actually say how many mosques were actually attacked other than Southport?
You think he's a member of the Labour party?
Labour showing their true colours
2 tier again
You think he's a member of the Labour party?
Do you think anyone who is on the left in "Labour party"? I have big shock for you.
Not sure I agree with non-racists becoming racist, I think it must have always been there and now showing true colours.I would (maybe naively!) suggest racism is something that can change as a view through time.
Unfortunately of course, non racists can also become racists!
People like this or like that supposed lawyer representing those dickheads in Manchester do a lot of Robinsons work for him in reality.What a wanker
Hope Not Hate boss apologises for false ‘acid attack on Muslim woman’ tweet
Nick Lowles says he will ‘hold my hands up’ if post was wrong after reports of the assault were denied by Cleveland Policewww.telegraph.co.uk
Ok then, he'll be expelled if it is himView attachment 37576
He’s a councillor for Labour
Ok then, he'll be expelled if it is him
Interesting to see you reaction to it being a labour bloke in front of a crowd inciting hate and calling on women and children being killed.Now have you actually said sorry for your misinformation?
He didn't make the list up. He said it was made up. A bit like you did with the Southport murderer. Said he was a Muslim asylum seeker who came in on a boat last summer, didn't you?on the topic of misformation
all the meltdowns on here yesterday about last night was going to be full of right wing thugs
turns out your hero made it up
2tier at it finest again
How have you read that I to my comment? I'm simply saying they are a small minority but you can't pick them out of a crowd easily. I'll close this point as a bit pointless.Isn't tarring everybody with the same brush the exact thing you are moaning about?
Baffling.
Interesting? I am quite happy with him being expelled if it is him.Interesting to see you reaction to it being a labour bloke in front of a crowd inciting hate and calling on women and children being killed.
"Oh well, meanwhile what are the far right bots online saying"
He didn't make the list up. He said it was made up. A bit like you did with the Southport murderer. Said he was a Muslim asylum seeker who came in on a boat last summer, didn't you?
People like this or like that supposed lawyer representing those dickheads in Manchester do a lot of Robinsons work for him in reality.
Its a generalisation.How have you read that I to my comment? I'm simply saying they are a small minority but you can't pick them out of a crowd easily. Not exclusively but generally lads who fight at footy matches are much more likely to have extreme right wing views. Not really sure why I'm even making this point now!
Yeah it's interesting because it's what's been happening over the last few days.Interesting? I am quite happy with him being expelled if it is him.
I'm also quite happy with the police taking action.
I've completely lost the point we were discussing here Nick.Its a generalisation.
Bit like saying that Muslims are suicide bombers because a minority are? Is that ok?
I've completely lost the point we were discussing here Nick.
I've completely lost the point we were discussing here Nick.
Wonder if this woman will face any consequences? Times making some claims against her.
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