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  • Start date Nov 27, 2011
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Kuklinski

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #36
Tragic news. It makes you wonder what has caused him to commit suicide. It will come out no doubt.
 

sw88

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #37
Kuklinski said:
Tragic news. It makes you wonder what has caused him to commit suicide. It will come out no doubt.
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the press will make assumptions you mean
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #38
Very tragic and the fact it was suicide makes it more unbelievable. He had success so the question is why?
Suicide often suggested as a cowards way out...can't see that but you have to ask why was he so selfish in taking his own life?

I hope there is an explanation so we can understand this tragedy better.

RIP and thanks for the memories.
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #39
It must be depression repated or something alike. Whatever it was, its tragic. And to leave a wife and two kids behind aswell. Cant imagine what they must be going through
 
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Glen

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #40
All thoughts with family and friends
 
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ccfc2011

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #41
I'm shocked because he looked so happy on football focus yesterday talking about wales qualifying for 2014 world cup.
R.I.P. GARY
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #42
Very sad news.

Gary Mac formed a great partnership with him in the Leeds team midfield.

RIP
 

ajsccfc

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #43
I wouldn't go down the coward/selfish route, this would need the kind of wherewithal that's rarely present in someone willingly taking their own life.
 

Darth Robins

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #44
ajsccfc said:
I wouldn't go down the coward/selfish route, this would need the kind of wherewithal that's rarely present in someone willingly taking their own life.
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I agree, I've actually dealt with (and still do to some extent, and not just due to being a city fan!) depression and it's genuinely hard to actually try to describe what it's like to someone who hasn't experienced it, your mind can do horrible horrible things. You can become as certain that everyone would be better off without you alive as you are certain that rain is wet. I'm not trying to excuse it at all, but if it is actually down to depression, cowardice and selfishness rarely come into play.

That said, it's still incredibly shocking as he never really seemed like "that" type of person. It seems to be a much bigger issue with footballers these days, Collymore has been writing about it recently too.

RIP.
 

ccfc_Tom

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #45
Mans a legend RIP
 

sw88

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #46
Darth Ranson said:
I agree, I've actually dealt with (and still do to some extent, and not just due to being a city fan!) depression and it's genuinely hard to actually try to describe what it's like to someone who hasn't experienced it, your mind can do horrible horrible things. You can become as certain that everyone would be better off without you alive as you are certain that rain is wet. I'm not trying to excuse it at all, but if it is actually down to depression, cowardice and selfishness rarely come into play.

That said, it's still incredibly shocking as he never really seemed like "that" type of person. It seems to be a much bigger issue with footballers these days, Collymore has been writing about it recently too.

RIP.
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Hopefully this will publisise the dangers or effects of depression. I didnt realise Stan Collymore suffered with depression so much. Hes written a great article on his own experiences and his recent run in with despression. I think the article was only written yesterday aswell.

Such a shame.
 
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Notorious B.I.Girimana

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #47
RIP Gary, all thoughts with your family.
 
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Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #48
ajsccfc said:
I wonder if he suffered from depression in private, it's alarming how many footballers do (the recent book on Robert Enke really helps shed light on how money and success does not automatically make a footballer such a great job)
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Given just how much of a problem it is in cricket-a less pressurized sport, if anything-you have to think that there is all sorts behind closed doors that we never hear about. But then, it's probably no more an issue in football than it is throughout our population as a whole. It's even easier to suffer badly from a mental health problem if you have nothing.
 

Sub

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #49
awful news RIP
 

@richh87

Member
  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #50
Devastated for his family.

You really wouldn't expect this from a guy like him. I wonder if we'll ever know why

R.I.P Gary. Quality player and top bloke.
 
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CovScott88

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #51
RIP Gary Speed.
 
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fiander17PUSB

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #52
RIP - Gary Speed
Quality player, gunna be missed!
 
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CovScott88

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #53
In fact, The Sun and The Dail Mail have both just said that the rumours are untrue. Ignore what I said.
 

Darth Robins

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #54
CovScott88 said:
Firstly, I'm not alleging anything. Secondly, if it's true, then clearly he did wrong, but my problem is with the tabloid's for their complete disregard for people's private lives.
They've effectively driven a man to suicide.
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The exact same thing happened with Justin Fashnu who also committed suicide because of it, I think if this does turn out to be something like that then the Sunday papers need nailing to the wall, there's an awful lot of vermin "journalists" around now.
 

kg82

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #55
Well, we have no idea what the specifics are if those allegations are true. But my disgust at the reporting media in general has been with me for a fair few years now. Who are we to judge anyone and who are they to drive someone to such drastic consequences.
 

kg82

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #56
CovScott88 said:
In fact, The Sun and The Dail Mail have both just said that the rumours are untrue. Ignore what I said.
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Erm, damn! After my little rant! Good anyway
 

rob9872

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #57
RIP Gary Speed
 
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rob9872

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #58
Not at all. He probably thought he would save his family from it although ironically will not have achieved that, however traditionally suicidial people are not thinking rationally.
 
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Henchman66

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #59
Gary speed footballs gentleman. R.I.P
 

Kuklinski

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #60
cloughie said:
Well as people have also stated that its also been reported that its not true why do people like you continue to push the RUMOUR as if you want it to be true. Happy at some one else demise are you.
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I have sympathy for the wife and children he selfishly left behind.
 
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skybluereeve

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #61
Not a great way to go,taking your own life. He must have been going through dark times. Great bloke great player selfish way to go. R.I.P speed. God bless your poor children and wife
 

JHarding1987

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  • Nov 27, 2011
  • #62
RIP Gary Speed. A gentleman & a legend on & off the pitch. Still stunned. Thoughts with his family.
 
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Sutty

Member
  • Nov 28, 2011
  • #63
Suicide is not 'selfish'.

It's usually a result of severe mental illness.
 
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AlexJohnson93

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  • Nov 28, 2011
  • #64
The news of Speeds death left me numb. Made me realise that i've got to confront my own depression before i do something stupid...
 

TimRussell

New Member
  • Nov 28, 2011
  • #65
Very, very sad news - one of the few players in the Premiership you couldn't possibly say a bad word about. Clearly loved playing football and, unlike so many of his peers, treated the game with respect.

Having battled the big D myself for several years and largely beaten it thanks to getting the right help (though it still rears its ugly little head from time to time) I have every sympathy with him - we may sit here & think oh, look at that guy, he's got the money, the looks, the lifestyle, a great family, great job etc, but if he was indeed suffering from depression (and noone has yet confirmed that he was) he wouldn't have seen it that way.

Anyone who's read Stan Collymore's autobiography will be aware of how little support depressed footballers get - especially when, in Stan's case, you have a dick like John Gregory as manager. Maybe Speed didn't tell anyone about his illness, or maybe he did & wasn't taken seriously, who knows. Anyway, RIP Gary.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2011
  • #66
really sad way to go for such a nice bloke (well from what i have seen of him). Just one of those things that puts the world (and football) into perspective really. RIP Gary
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 28, 2011
  • #67
Some stupid posts on here and hope most other clubs dont pick up on it,,, jokes and judging someone before any facts have come out!!!!!!!!!!! This man had done more in football than most and as a player someone who most of players today should look at now and try to copy.

So unless you know the man personally, comment about what you seen on a football pitch and what has been lost, instead of talking out your arse's.....

Gary Speed R.I.P
 
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skybluesteve76

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  • Nov 28, 2011
  • #68
Kuklinski said:
I have sympathy for the wife and children he selfishly left behind.
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Who are you to judge someone in their darkest hour?
 

Kuklinski

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  • Nov 28, 2011
  • #69
skybluesteve76 said:
Who are you to judge someone in their darkest hour?
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Kuklinski is the name. I do what I want, when I want, and no amount of self-righteous indignation will stop me having an opinion, even if it is at odds with the majority. Deal with it.
 
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CUS Wyken

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  • Nov 28, 2011
  • #70
skybluesteve76 said:
Who are you to judge someone in their darkest hour?
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He has a point tho. He has left a family behind who will be living in there darkest hour for the rest of there lives. Two kids who every day will be thinking why and they'll never get the answer.
 
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