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edgy

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  • Yesterday at 10:08 PM
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Mate. Please let's be a bit pragmatic now. Trying to outscore everyone won't get us promoted when we defend like that.

Crack on with it at home by all means but let's be hard to beat away from home, first and foremost. We'll give ourselves a chance.

We keep losing away from home and we blow it.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:09 PM
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Derby fans told us he has 1 way of playing and relies on a bit of brilliance to win.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Yesterday at 10:10 PM
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Got to show your worth now frank mate its not worked well the last 3rd of the season ..
 
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RegiswasGod

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  • Yesterday at 10:10 PM
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Ccfcisparks said:
Derby fans told us he has 1 way of playing and relies on a bit of brilliance to win.
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Didn't need a Derby fan to tell us that. It's painfully obvious
 

Otis

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  • Yesterday at 10:12 PM
  • #5
We have great big gaping gaps in the middle and teams are just storming through. Huge worry.

That was a very attacking team we put out there tonight, but we just didn't show anywhere near enough attacking threat..

FL has to turn this around and quick.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Yesterday at 10:13 PM
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Otis said:
We have great big gaping gaps in the middle and teams are just storming through. Huge worry.

That was a very attacking team we put out there tonight, but we just didn't show anywhere near enough attacking threat..

FL has to turn this around and quick.
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When was our last away win in the league ?
 

SBAndy

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  • Yesterday at 10:15 PM
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Structurally we’re a mess in all departments at the moment. The midfield issue is well trodden but how many times do we lose first contact at an attacking set piece and the opposition are away? How many times do we let wide players just run into the box unchallenged?
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Yesterday at 10:21 PM
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SBAndy said:
Structurally we’re a mess in all departments at the moment. The midfield issue is well trodden but how many times do we lose first contact at an attacking set piece and the opposition are away? How many times do we let wide players just run into the box unchallenged?
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Terrible free kick right at the end. Keeper goes up and free kick goes about 3 foot high. Summed us up.
 
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larry_david

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  • Yesterday at 10:24 PM
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Otis said:
We have great big gaping gaps in the middle and teams are just storming through. Huge worry.

That was a very attacking team we put out there tonight, but we just didn't show anywhere near enough attacking threat..

FL has to turn this around and quick.
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And yet, with set ourselves so top heavy without looking a threat at all. Thats the worst thing, if it was risk vs reward and we looked deadly, fine I'll maybe take it. But bta didnt touch the ball for 37 mins!!
 
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Deity

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  • Yesterday at 10:27 PM
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Ccfcisparks said:
Derby fans told us he has 1 way of playing and relies on a bit of brilliance to win.
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But that hasn’t been our experience has it …. It’s not been the odd bit of brilliance …. We were the best championship team in 2025.

It’s fine margins …. Kitch shouldn’t give them the second, EMC hits the bar, Wright has one cleared off the line ….

We are not playing as well as we were but the over reaction is also not helpful.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:28 PM
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Deity said:
But that hasn’t been our experience has it …. It’s not been the odd bit of brilliance …. We were the best championship team in 2025.

It’s fine margins …. Kitch shouldn’t give them the second, EMC hits the bar, Wright has one cleared off the line ….

We are not playing as well as we were but the over reaction is also not helpful.
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We have won 4 games in 11
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 10:30 PM
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Ccfcisparks said:
We have won 4 games in 11
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4/5 home games.

The issue is our away form. Fail win at QPR and it’s 2 months without an away win.
 
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Adge

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  • Yesterday at 10:30 PM
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Skyblue Bangkok said:
When was our last away win in the league ?
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Middlesbrough.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Yesterday at 10:31 PM
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
4/5 home games.

The issue is our away form. Fail win at QPR and it’s 2 months without an away win.
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thats even worse then.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Yesterday at 10:32 PM
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Adge said:
Middlesbrough.
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Feck that far back
 

clint van damme

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  • Yesterday at 10:32 PM
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He needs to change the way we play away from home, that's obvious.
We won't pick ip many more points on the road if we keep setting up like tonight.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Yesterday at 10:32 PM
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Adge said:
Middlesbrough.
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At this rate a play off place might be the best we get.
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Yesterday at 10:35 PM
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anyone hear there’s been a ‘difference of opinion’ within the club, FL and DK, Frank not too happy with something…
 

Shannerz

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  • Yesterday at 10:35 PM
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Adge said:
Middlesbrough.
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We've had three points since then, and one of those was at Charlton, who are a painfully mediocre team, and one was against 10 men.

The worst thing is, that most of the defeats have been due to being brainlessly gung-ho. There's no way we should have lost to a very average Birmingham team, and whilst Norwich are a good side in a false position, we played completely into our hands.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Yesterday at 10:36 PM
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edgy said:
Mate. Please let's be a bit pragmatic now. Trying to outscore everyone won't get us promoted when we defend like that.

Crack on with it at home by all means but let's be hard to beat away from home, first and foremost. We'll give ourselves a chance.

We keep losing away from home and we blow it.
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Thank you...i started this same thread after Blackburn at home! And Watford at Home when they outplayed us with 10 men.

Ii said it today when in match thread. Will let you know if this formation is stupidity or genius.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Yesterday at 10:37 PM
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I think we need to change the system away. We’ve got good enough forward players to score enough. We just can’t keep playing this kamikaze midfield.
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Yesterday at 10:39 PM
  • #22
It would only take two changes to make us look stronger:

1. Tell Dasilva to stay back at all times
2. Change the midfield to a proper double pivot, instead of the 8 being closer to the CF than Grimes

It's been MONTHS of us getting ripped apart on the counter and Lampard has done fuck all about it.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Yesterday at 10:41 PM
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Don't know how he thought we'd win tonight playing like this

 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Yesterday at 10:42 PM
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Winny the Bish said:
It would only take two changes to make us look stronger:

1. Tell Dasilva to stay back at all times
2. Change the midfield to a proper double pivot, instead of the 8 being closer to the CF than Grimes

It's been MONTHS of us getting ripped apart on the counter and Lampard has done fuck all about it.
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I’d argue just doing the second one would be enough, but also not playing possibly the best full back / winger combinations in the league then relying on cross field balls from centre halves and long balls forward from defence
 

Marty

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  • Yesterday at 10:42 PM
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Torp is a luxury player.
 
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Nick

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  • Yesterday at 10:43 PM
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2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
anyone hear there’s been a ‘difference of opinion’ within the club, FL and DK, Frank not too happy with something…
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No?
 
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ptr

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  • Yesterday at 10:43 PM
  • #27
Grimes as the shield isn’t working out of possession. Players breeze past him.

Hoping that Onyeka is coming in because we need better protection. Frank knows that. Hopefully Doug can see it as well.
 
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Nick

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  • Yesterday at 10:44 PM
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Liquid Gold said:
Don't know how he thought we'd win tonight playing like this

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Exactly, it's obvious grimes is going to struggle.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 10:45 PM
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Winny the Bish said:
It would only take two changes to make us look stronger:

1. Tell Dasilva to stay back at all times
2. Change the midfield to a proper double pivot, instead of the 8 being closer to the CF than Grimes
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Point 2 I agree with. 5-3-2 or something when we’re away might be a good should too.

Something isn’t going our way when we’re on the road atm. We’ve lost 3 of our last 5 away games but at least you can afford to lose about 5-7 away games and still go up automatically.
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Yesterday at 10:45 PM
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Liquid Gold said:
Don't know how he thought we'd win tonight playing like this

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All the tacticos talk about Pep, Arteta, Enrique etc creating a 2-3-5 in attack. Lampard's said fuck that and gone for a 3-0-7.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Yesterday at 10:49 PM
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Winny the Bish said:
It's been MONTHS of us getting ripped apart on the counter and Lampard has done fuck all about it.
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This worries me more than the individual form of any player.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 10:51 PM
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Also just compare this to Boro away at Stoke last week. One nil down, makes the required changes and turns the game around.

One nil up but creaking, change nothing and lose. It’s not even the first time this season in this exact scenario.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Yesterday at 10:51 PM
  • #33
A huge issue is that our fullbacks act like wingbacks but we don't play 3 at the back

So Grimes comes deep and shields the back two which would be fine if we had someone doing midfield busy work

Torp is too forward facing to do it, Eccles looks overwhelmed when asked to do it for 90 minutes

Torp going too far forward sits on the toes of the 10 so they end up drifting wide for space which then is crowded because you end up with a winger, a wingback and a 10

The defence can then concentrate on defending the penalty area with an overload.

The solution is to get a midfielder signed sealed and delivered ASAP that you can trust to knit together Grimes and the 10 by contributing defensively with tackles and interceptions but also having the ability to pick a pass instead of getting drawn into space. All that while being an imposing presence in the centre.

His name is Frank Onyeka and we need to open the cheque book and do what's needed.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Yesterday at 10:51 PM
  • #34
Shannerz said:
This worries me more than the individual form of any player.
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What do the coaching staff do in training? It's becoming like ground hog day away from home
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Yesterday at 10:52 PM
  • #35
Shannerz said:
This worries me more than the individual form of any player.
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You can go back to the Charlton game at home at the start of November where we all thought "Christ they're getting at us quite easily here" and see where it began.

3 months have passed, every team since has done us on the counter, and still nothing has changed.

Kamikaze football won't get us promoted.
 
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