Evo1883
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I said he wasn't one of the best owners in English football and you've consistently pushed back against that opinion .. now you think he's top 20 ?
Which is it , and what are you basing that opinion on ?
Not the best no. I'd put him in the top 20. After that, it all depends on what you're basing it on.
There's a lot of shite owners, or owners spending well above their means. Half of which gets brushed under the carpet.
I never mention Grendel. The only reason I did this time was his statement that Robins had been poor for the last 12 months, which is patently untrue.I dont want this to turn into another RoS v Grendel as we have enough of those. I appreciate you don't see eye to eye and on this subject my views differ from G's, but let's try and remain objective.
Born in 72, being a City fan in my lifetime, I had some great memories of my 'heroes' in the early 80's when I started going, leading up to the cup final in 87. A large turnover of managers and players followed and bar a couple of seasons as the 'Entertainers' under Strachan, it was a largely turgid affair as we slipped down the leagues. Despite being a lifelong passion, spending thousands travelling about, going a whole season away under Strachan without winning a game, crap owners, never challenging for anything, moving out of the ground etc etc it was tough mentally and financially to keep going. Since the return of MR and the Checkatrade Final, some of the best times, especially as they've been family occasions too, have been great under MR and I'll always look back on the era with fondness.
I'm not that bothered that he's gone, I accept it. I dont particularly want FL but again accept him and will give 100% support. But, to tarnish what we have enjoyed and I'd hope most on this forum were there to share some or all of those days, feels more than a bit mucky, and disingenuous.
Anyhow, working day over, all enjoy your evening.
Big Fat Franks SBA
Possibly the top 3... after that I'm struggling
I said he wasn't one of the best owners in English football and you've consistently pushed back against that opinion .. now you think he's top 20 ?
Which is it
No, I said it wasn't extreme.
Extreme would be calling SISU in 2011 the best owners.
Well I don't think he is one of English footballs best owners , as I've said about 6 times now .
I think that statement is true
How the f~ can anyone argue last season was poor? Sure it petered out at the end when we ran out of fit players but it was undoubtedly one of the top two in a generation and I'd probably argue top.So because we had a small period of 3 months where we had some nice wins against Leicester and Sunderland away, we can forget about the rest which has been really, really poor. If you look at the fixtures last season, either side of the winter period, it's scary how bad it is.
We have spent £45m. You can dress it up as money that's been made but even if we started from a squad of 0, we still spent £45m. We've spent more than any side without parachute payments.
People focus on us losing 6 in a row at the end , I agree it was a good seasonHow the f~ can anyone argue last season was poor? Sure it petered out at the end when we ran out of fit players but it was undoubtedly one of the top two in a generation and I'd probably argue top.
How the f~ can anyone argue last season was poor? Sure it petered out at the end when we ran out of fit players but it was undoubtedly one of the top two in a generation and I'd probably argue top.
It was a mixed season.People focus on us losing 6 in a row at the end , I agree it was a good season
Tough start with a bunch of new players - a few months where we kept pace with Leeds and Leicester and Southampton, wins against Leeds, Leicester, wolves and arguably United in an FA cup semi... as a fan of a mid sized championship team what more do you guys want??Brilliant in the FA Cup and some good games in the league in winter and against Leeds slightly later on.
It was a mixed season.
Awful start, great middle, 2 fab cup matches, awful finish.
Wolves away and United are 2 of my fav memories as a City fan, as was beating Leicester at home …… the rest of the season was very forgettable.
Tough start with a bunch of new players - a few months where we kept pace with Leeds and Leicester and Southampton, wins against Leeds, Leicester, wolves and arguably United... as a fan of a mid sized championship team what more do you guys want??
It was a mixed season.
Awful start, great middle, 2 fab cup matches, awful finish.
Wolves away and United are 2 of my fav memories as a City fan, as was beating Leicester at home …… the rest of the season was very forgettable.
On Lampard and his coaches…. Ashley Cole has left his role with England today
He’d still be miles ahead ofInteresting , think he can still do a job ( what a player )
He’s 46He’d still be miles ahead of
Bidwell and DaSilva… to be honest I still reckon Lampard could do a job in our Midfield
I’m still backing Lampard to improve our midfieldHe’s 46
I fear we can forget 28,000 for midweek games for a while. Either way we are not routinely one of the top attendance teams in the division nor do we benefit from parachute payments and has been seen this summer we can't compete with other clubs in the division on wages even when bidding for one of our own players.If the expectation was that final sentence, Robins would still be here for years to come but we probably wouldn't be getting 28,000 for midweek matches for long.
Joe Edwards has been his number two in his last few jobs, wonder if it will be him or Morris this time?On Lampard and his coaches…. Ashley Cole has left his role with England today
Didn't he have a fall out with Morris?Joe Edwards has been his number two in his last few jobs, wonder if it will be him or Morris this time?
We’ve currently got the 5th highest average attendanceI fear we can forget 28,000 for midweek games for a while. Either way we are not routinely one of the top attendance teams in the division nor do we benefit from parachute payments and has been seen this summer we can't compete with other clubs in the division on wages even when bidding for one of our own players.
Either way you've neatly sidestepped the main point. Outside the teams that got promoted - who had a better season? How many times in the memory of anyone born post cup win have we had a more memorable season?
Yes, on the back of two thrilling seasons and high expectations. Reality is though that we are not one of the big hitters in terms of revenue over the last 5/10 years and are likely comfortably outmatched even now by teams that have enjoyed spells in the prem. All of which remains entirely irrelevant to the main point I was making.We’ve currently got the 5th highest average attendance
Summed up perfectly.
We were 20th a year ago today on the 19th November. It was a woeful start. I still have nightmares about that Rotherham away game.
It was a great fun once O'Hare started games in December. There were some individually brilliant days. We beat rivals and had a trip to Wembley.
I watched it the other day, top bloke and wants to succeed as manager, it could be right club right time for him and I do genuinely want him to succeed! He will have my backingSomeone posted this earlier in this thread. It's a long watch but worth it. I am looking forward to Frank taking charge.
Wembley Again Ole Oleso what you’re saying is that the new manager should comfortably replicate what was delivered in 23/24.
Well somebody had to be convinced to let loyalty go, either Vivash or MR.It was a mixed season.
Awful start, great middle, 2 fab cup matches, awful finish.
Wolves away and United are 2 of my fav memories as a City fan, as was beating Leicester at home …… the rest of the season was very forgettable.
No of course not just come out with a load of insults.
Anyway Earlsdon Loyal Blue shouldn't it be, Earlsdon Loyal Sky Blue or is it because you're a Leicester City fan.
My take on last season:So because we had a small period of 3 months where we had some nice wins against Leicester and Sunderland away, we can forget about the rest which has been really, really poor. If you look at the fixtures last season, either side of the winter period, it's scary how bad it is.
We have spent £45m. You can dress it up as money that's been made but even if we started from a squad of 0, we still spent £45m. We've spent more than any side without parachute payments.
Yes, on the back of two thrilling seasons and high expectations. Reality is though that we are not one of the big hitters in terms of revenue over the last 5/10 years and are likely comfortably outmatched even now by teams that have enjoyed spells in the prem. All of which remains entirely irrelevant to the main point I was making.
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