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Frank Lampard Rumours (3 Viewers)

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  • Start date Nov 9, 2024
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    Votes: 150 26.5%
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    Votes: 275 48.7%
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    Votes: 140 24.8%

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David O'Day

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,401
PVA said:
I get they were in a state, but they still ahd a decent team and 1 win in 11 games is shocking. Defensively they were a shambles.
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The team was on the beach long before he joined.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,402
SBT said:
Anyone with less than a couple of seasons’ experience as a manager is a huge risk, especially if they don’t have any coaching experience at a high level.

I don’t think anyone would be suggesting Keane if he hadn’t played for us before, and I don’t think sentiment should play that much into our hiring decisions.
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I think it’s more a case of I’d rather gamble on an unknown than get someone with an unimpressive record. Couldn’t care less whether they played for us, I think Boateng is a crap coach. I want someone fresh ideally, but was just asking why Keane was beyond the pale but Lampard wasn’t.
 

torchomatic

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,403
SBT said:
I think this is the first time that a manager from the Israeli Premier League has been on anyone’s radar. No other reason for it other than late 90s nostalgia.
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Absolutely. A random guy who played for us 25 years ago for 30 odd games. It's ridiculous. I hope this is just bullshit and not King thinking all will be forgiven by employing a Sky Blue "legend" as Mark's replacement.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,404
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Hahaha I rate that!

Was Chelsea’s team that season particularly good? I recall him blooding through a lot of youngsters (Mount, James, Hudson-Odoi and Tammy Abraham) and that season was a ‘free hit’ for Chelsea and they overperformed.

The Championship is probably Lampard’s level so I don’t think it would be a terrible appointment to be honest. The only candidates that would excite me would be Moyes, Potter or Cooper (assuming he became available) and the first 2 names are just not realistic and the other is employed (for now).
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Yeah they were pretty good that year, you don't finish top 4 without being a decent team.
 
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Skybluekyle

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,405
SkyBlueMatt said:
Nails it. This has just reinforced how moronic it was to get rid of him. At the absolute minimum, not to give him until the new year.

I think we know that it was nothing to do with results, Doug 'The Ego' King, wants to be the main man. He wants to modernise the structure (that was maybe overly reliant on Robins) which has brought us all the success of the last 7 years. Replaced with one that will see us like every other club, replacing their "head coach" every 12 months. Why would anyone coming in think DK will stand by them at the first sign of trouble?

The point about the manager odds, seeing that list compared to Robins just depresses me.
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,406
napolimp said:
che.
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Bunce?
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,407
alexccfc99 said:
It wasn't *that* good of a team tbf and they'd just lost Hazard off the back of that as well

It was an alright side but nothing compared to Chelsea line ups of the mid/late 2000s and early 2010s
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Well no but it was a decent side
 

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,408
Evo1883 said:
Well no but it was a decent side View attachment 39407
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Meh... Leicester had as good of a team at that point
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,409
alexccfc99 said:
Meh... Leicester had as good of a team at that point
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Fair enough , anyway lampard 4/11 now
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,410
torchomatic said:
Absolutely. A random guy who played for us 25 years ago for 30 odd games. It's ridiculous. I hope this is just bullshit and not King thinking all will be forgiven by employing a Sky Blue "legend" as Mark's replacement.
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We were assured on here that there would be loads of top quality managers pushing hard for the job.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,411
Evo1883 said:
Fair enough , anyway lampard 4/11 now
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Is that more or less likely?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,412
shmmeee said:
Is that more or less likely?
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More
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,413
Evo1883 said:
Fair enough , anyway lampard 4/11 now
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Have they shortened?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,414
Sick Boy said:
Have they shortened?
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Means you have to put 11 pound on to win 4 pound wheras before you had to put 9 on to win 4

Meaning it's more likely to happen than before
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,415
Sick Boy said:
Have they shortened?
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Yeah slightly
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,416
Also, your local lad sticking £5 accies on isn’t backing this to win £2.

You’d have to imagine someone is putting meatier bets on for this to continue to shorten and that usually comes with some form of inside knowledge.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,417
The noise here is that he's joining us rather than Roma but I think it's based on the recent Mirror article more than anything else.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,418
LastGarrison said:
Also, your local lad sticking £5 accies on isn’t backing this to win £2.

You’d have to imagine someone is putting meatier bets on for this to continue to shorten and that usually comes with some form of inside knowledge.
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Yes big money is on from will king
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,419
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Hahaha I rate that!

Was Chelsea’s team that season particularly good? I recall him blooding through a lot of youngsters (Mount, James, Hudson-Odoi and Tammy Abraham) and that season was a ‘free hit’ for Chelsea and they overperformed.

The Championship is probably Lampard’s level so I don’t think it would be a terrible appointment to be honest. The only candidates that would excite me would be Moyes, Potter or Cooper (assuming he became available) and the first 2 names are just not realistic and the other is employed (for now).
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It was pretty good the squad:
Kepa
Rudiger
Marcus Alonso
Christiansen
Jorginho
Kante
Barkley
Willian
Pedro
Zouma
Kovavic
Giroud
Pulisic
Batshuayi
Azpilicueta
Emersen

Then you add in the young talent you mention, that's a hell of a good squad.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,420
LastGarrison said:
Also, your local lad sticking £5 accies on isn’t backing this to win £2.

You’d have to imagine someone is putting meatier bets on for this to continue to shorten and that usually comes with some form of inside knowledge.
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Yeah, better look out for a big bet from someone called Christine, with a strong Northern Irish accent
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,421
LastGarrison said:
Also, your local lad sticking £5 accies on isn’t backing this to win £2.

You’d have to imagine someone is putting meatier bets on for this to continue to shorten and that usually comes with some form of inside knowledge.
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No mate, the multi billion pound bookies are just winging it, apparently.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,422
Ah the waiting is the worst. Just get it over with. Do we reckon he’ll unveil literally at the CWR thing?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,423
Torquay Sky Blue said:
I thought Robins was untouchable here
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stupot07 said:
It was pretty good the squad:
Kepa
Rudiger
Marcus Alonso
Christiansen
Jorginho
Kante
Barkley
Willian
Pedro
Zouma
Kovavic
Giroud
Pulisic
Batshuayi
Azpilicueta
Emersen

Then you add in the young talent you mention, that's a hell of a good squad.
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A lot of those players really came to the fore under Lampard to be fair. I’m not so sure many people would’ve fancied Mount to emerge as a key player for a Top 4 team one season after playing in the Championship.

It’s the problem looking at teams retrospectively, a lot of players have developed since that point in time.

The consensus that year was that Lampard performed a miracle that season. Reports after he brought new players in the season after basically didn’t rate Lampard tactically. Which, ironically, is something close to what probably happened with Robins from 2023/24 to 2024/25.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,424
Sick Boy said:
The noise here is that he's joining us rather than Roma but I think it's based on the recent Mirror article more than anything else.
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He’ll have my backing if it’s him, but I have to confess that it cheapens the whole thing if we’re his second choice and he was looking for other jobs too. That might be assumption and presumption, I hold my hands up, but it’s just another way that we no longer have stability and we’re more of a ‘normal’ club, as opposed to being a club where the manager had almost started to feel like “one of us”.
 
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hamil99

Facebook User
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,425
SBT said:
Would 1000 people bet that kind of money on the new Coventry manager without having some kind of insight or knowledge of the situation?
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That's the people not the bookies and they might well do. So the bookies will look at the betting patterns and change the odds accordingly.
 

cooperskyblue

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,426
Ring Of Steel said:
being a club where the manager had almost started to feel like “one of us”.
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And I think that is exactly why it hurts so much. Because Robins genuinely loved the club. Was loyal to the club. Felt part of us. Now he's gone so that's why it hurts.

Because in the cold light of day the performances and the malaise from the back end of last season hasn't been good enough but because of his affinity to us we felt the same back. Felt so unique.

If it is Lampard I wish him nothing but the best and hope he can be the guy to get us across the line.
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,427
Mucca Mad Boys said:
A lot of those players really came to the fore under Lampard to be fair. I’m not so sure many people would’ve fancied Mount to emerge as a key player for a Top 4 team one season after playing in the Championship.

It’s the problem looking at teams retrospectively, a lot of players have developed since that point in time.

The consensus that year was that Lampard performed a miracle that season. Reports after he brought new players in the season after basically didn’t rate Lampard tactically. Which, ironically, is something close to what probably happened with Robins from 2023/24 to 2024/25.
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That same group of players finished 3rd the previous season, albeit with Hazard and Luiz
 

alexccfc99

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,428
stupot07 said:
That same group of players finished 3rd the previous season, albeit with Hazard and Luiz
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Hazard was ridiculous that season mind and to lose him was massive

If you care to remember that Europa League final against Arsenal which was Hazard's final game in a Chelsea top he basically beat them on his own
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,429
Ring Of Steel said:
He’ll have my backing if it’s him, but I have to confess that it cheapens the whole thing if we’re his second choice and he was looking for other jobs too. That might be assumption and presumption, I hold my hands up, but it’s just another way that we no longer have stability and we’re more of a ‘normal’ club, as opposed to being a club where the manager had almost started to feel like “one of us”.
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He's been linked with Roma before MR was even sacked.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,430
stupot07 said:
That same group of players finished 3rd the previous season, albeit with Hazard and Luiz
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Hazard was a player of the season or thereabouts, right? The other teams around Chelsea would’ve strengthened their teams and Chelsea were under a transfer embargo.

In any which case, finishing in the Top 4 is still a massive achievement. The top teams can be notoriously difficult to manage so you’ve got to give Lampard his dues for managing that. Again, we’re a Championship team and we’re not going to get another manager with that his CV.

Look at the bookies, do the other managers have better achievements than Lampard? I don’t think so pragmatically, he’s probably the best candidate out there.
 

CovLad94

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,431
All signs pointing to it being Lampard and odds slashed again, still don't think it'll be him though
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,432
alexccfc99 said:
Hazard was ridiculous that season mind and to lose him was massive

If you care to remember that Europa League final against Arsenal which was Hazard's final game in a Chelsea top he basically beat them on his own
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Yes he was as good that season, but the ways being talked about is he guided a mid table mediocre side to the dizzy heights of 4th place. That's a bloody good squad, and they brought Kovavic in for £40m before the embargo was placed on them.
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,433
Lampard Odds have shortened slightly - to it being more likely
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,434
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Hazard was a player of the season or thereabouts, right? The other teams around Chelsea would’ve strengthened their teams and Chelsea were under a transfer embargo.

In any which case, finishing in the Top 4 is still a massive achievement. The top teams can be notoriously difficult to manage so you’ve got to give Lampard his dues for managing that. Again, we’re a Championship team and we’re not going to get another manager with that his CV.

Look at the bookies, do the other managers have better achievements than Lampard? I don’t think so pragmatically, he’s probably the best candidate out there.
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The 4th finish was par. His work at Derby given his squad was par

Chelsea
18/19 3rd
19/20 4th * Lampard
20/21 4th
21/22 3rd

Even the guardian predicted 4th

Premier League 2019-20 review: our predictions versus reality

He achieved par at both derby and Chelsea
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 11, 2024
  • #1,435
BackRoomRummermill said:
Lampard Odds have shortened slightly - to it being more likely
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This is the kind of post us betting challenged folks can endorse!
 
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