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Frank Lampard Rumours (4 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Ccfcisparks
  • Start date Nov 9, 2024
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Are you happy with lampard

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    Votes: 150 26.5%
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    Votes: 275 48.7%
  • Meh

    Votes: 140 24.8%

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gspotgaz

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,796
wingy said:
Where does this leave the performance director?
Assume she'll still be required, but hss she improved us in any way?
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Sexist
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,797
Looking forward to the start of a new era, dont like the fact Robins has gone still but willing to support whoever is in our dugout as they have their hands full with this squad.
A squad of top ability underperforming, shot of confidence and lacking edge. We need FL to get the best out of them and for that we need to get behind him, I think its time for Kitching to come back in especially as FL plays a back 4 mostly.
I think we need someone of the likes of Rob Holding to come in 29 experience could be our Pontus Janson but could also be our Ashley Williams. But its a risk I’d be willing to take.
Doug defo needs to lean into FL connections and get some loans in, Alex Matos for Midfield could be good can also play RW played half a season at this level last year, Harvey Vale can play all the way up the left side and CAM would be top class, or potentially we could sign Marco van Ginkel get him fit and ready for next season unless he’s been disciplined and just needs to get sharp
 

Sky Blue Goblin

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,798
Just seen that the contract is rumoured to be a two and a half year deal with an option to extend
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,799
StrettoBoy said:
Loans aren't necessarily cheap as often the parent club demands a loan fee - which can be substantial - as well as requiring that some or all of the player's wages are covered.
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We could trade them one of our spare coaches
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,800
Okay, once again she has no on field performance responsibilities.

This was clarified at the forum.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,801
wingy said:
Where does this leave the performance director?
Assume she'll still be required, but hss she improved us in any way?
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Did you listen to King at the conference?

Her remit is not related to the on-pitch performance. It’s all about the team’s strength and conditioning, nutrition, sleep hygiene and so on. Apparently the team is as ‘fit’ as it’s ever been and performing higher on these metrics than before she came in.

We’ve scored 10 goals in the 76-90m which is the joint highest in the EFL so there’s clearly an impact on real match performance.
 
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False9

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,802
David O'Day said:
No he won't be, he was sacked in his first actual managers job.

He won't be on manager wages as a coach
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Probably not but he will be on a much bigger wage than any of our current coaches
 

Sky Blue Goblin

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,803
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Did you listen to King at the conference?

Her remit is not related to the on-pitch performance. It’s all about the team’s strength and conditioning, nutrition, sleep hygiene and so on. Apparently the team is as ‘fit’ as it’s ever been and performing higher on these metrics than before she came in.

We’ve scored 10 goals in the 76-90m which is the joint highest in the EFL so there’s clearly an impact on real match performance.
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Just to further add, if you are struggling with her role, its basically head of sports science
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,804
False9 said:
Probably not but he will be on a much bigger wage than any of our current coaches
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Will he? Doubtful but if you have proof please feel free to share this.
 

False9

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,805
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Robins had a lot of control and imo, the manager needs to have as much ‘power’ as possible in terms of recruitment (i.e. sign-off) and coaching structure. This logic applied to Robins as much as his successor.

Give Lampard everything he needs to have success in the role and then there’s no excuse if he fails. He’s going to be a lot better connected than MR ever was so the optimism I have is that he’ll be able to bring in high quality coaches with him.

It may be harsh on the existing coaching setup but even by Robins own admission, he chose them and they were ‘growing in the role’. The best case view of this is that they are ‘developing’ into the level required. The worst case, is that they’re out of their depth and that leap of faith from MR probably cost him his job.
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Worst case in the Lampard era is we have to sack him and the staff and pay out another fortune.

There is no guarantee he delivers more than Robins would have with the same resources.

It's a big risk and perhaps it works out. I thought we were being run sustainably and sensibly but this decision seems at odds with that perception.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,806
The consensus seems to be that this is Lampard's last chance to manage in the top 2 divisions.

If that is the case, you'd have to assume then that King has made some significant promises around transfer budgets
 

False9

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,807
David O'Day said:
Will he? Doubtful but if you have proof please feel free to share this.
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You're very belligerent, obviously I don't have proof.

Logic suggests the former England youth, Chelsea, Everton assistant and Millwall manager is being paid a lot more than the likes of John Dempster.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,808
bigfatronssba said:
The consensus seems to be that this is Lampard's last chance to manage in the top 2 divisions.

If that is the case, you'd have to assume then that King has made some significant promises around transfer budgets
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Lampard will be doing everything to make this a success. It's a good thing for us.

He will have aspirations for that England job post-Tuchel.
 
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False9

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,809
skybluecam said:
King can’t win can he, if he brings someone in and allows them to hire their own preferred staff it’s risky but if he brought in a head coach and makes them work with what we’ve got he’d be “cheap”.
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It's the cost of the staff and Lampard that worries me with his track record.

There's nothing to suggest he's going to improve what we had so why bother gambling.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,810
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Just to further add, if you are struggling with her role, its basically head of sports science
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I really don’t understand why people are getting hung up on the ‘Performance’ part of her job title.

People are just frustrated at things and wanted to point fingers at anyone but Robins. In no particular order, it was AV being pushed out, the flat coaching setup, then Dr Roberts and DK undermining MR.

Then DK said MR ended it with AV and decided on the unpopular coaching setup up… it was King throwing Robins under bus. The record needed to be set straight because of the poisonous narratives being put out.

It never made sense.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,811
False9 said:
Worst case in the Lampard era is we have to sack him and the staff and pay out another fortune.

There is no guarantee he delivers more than Robins would have with the same resources.

It's a big risk and perhaps it works out. I thought we were being run sustainably and sensibly but this decision seems at odds with that perception.
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By that definition, any manager is a risk. Even hiring a manager who wanted to bring in no staff even though King thought there was a lack of elite coaches in the setup.
 
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False9

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,812
Mucca Mad Boys said:
By that definition, any manager is a risk. Even hiring a manager who wanted to bring in no staff even though King thought there was a lack of elite coaches in the setup.
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Let's see what he does with players transfers but it could become a complete change in approach from king.

That would be a big risk and aligns is to the rest of the championship promotion chasers. Boom and bust.
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,813
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I really don’t understand why people are getting hung up on the ‘Performance’ part of her job title.

People are just frustrated at things and wanted to point fingers at anyone but Robins. In no particular order, it was AV being pushed out, the flat coaching setup, then Dr Roberts and DK undermining MR.

Then DK said MR ended it with AV and decided on the unpopular coaching setup up… it was King throwing Robins under bus. The record needed to be set straight because of the poisonous narratives being put out.

It never made sense.
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Its common thing in the modern world. People have fancy job titles which give no clue as to what they actually do.

Like at my place - "Senior Systems Analyst" is the bloke that resets your password when you forget it
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,814
False9 said:
You're very belligerent, obviously I don't have proof.

Logic suggests the former England youth, Chelsea, Everton assistant and Millwall manager is being paid a lot more than the likes of John Dempster.
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You said he would be on similar wages to Robins fella, no one mentioned John Dempster.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,815
False9 said:
Let's see what he does with players transfers but it could become a complete change in approach from king.

That would be a big risk and aligns is to the rest of the championship promotion chasers. Boom and bust.
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We spent close to £45m under Robins. We’re already in the boom and bust cycle!
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,816
Always been curious how this works do they sign the manager and then the coaches or do they all sign together cause I imagine that’s a lot of moving parts
 

mrfr

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,817
pusbccfc said:
Lampard will be doing everything to make this a success. It's a good thing for us.

He will have aspirations for that England job post-Tuchel.
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That assumes his problem so far has been a lack of application whereas the consensus seems to be that what he has demonstrated in his coaching career to date is a lack of ability. Maybe he has worked on that and made significant strides and is ready to prove himself, but trying harder doesn’t make you a world beater. If it did Andy Morrell would’ve got 100 England caps.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,818
wingy said:
Where does this leave the performance director?
Assume she'll still be required, but hss she improved us in any way?
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Hopefully out the door, things have been terrible since she’s come in

She can take Austin with her too
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,819
Mucca Mad Boys said:
We spent close to £45m under Robins. We’re already in the boom and bust cycle!
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Don’t think for a second Doug changes model. Way too headstrong for that
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,820
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Hopefully out the door, things have been terrible since she’s come in

She can take Austin with her too
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she has fuck all to do with the team on the pitch, as i said to wingy this was clarified at the forum
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,821
mrfr said:
That assumes his problem so far has been a lack of application whereas the consensus seems to be that what he has demonstrated in his coaching career to date is a lack of ability. Maybe he has worked on that and made significant strides and is ready to prove himself, but trying harder doesn’t make you a world beater. If it did Andy Morrell would’ve got 100 England caps.
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or maybe he has looked around and studied new tactics etc.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,822
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Hopefully out the door, things have been terrible since she’s come in

She can take Austin with her too
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Our form is all her fault when she has nothing to do with the football side of things ?
Great logic
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,823
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Hopefully out the door, things have been terrible since she’s come in

She can take Austin with her too
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She’s head of sport science bud,
 

standupforcity

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,824
When you actually stop and think about it....Lampard instead of Robins! Crazy huh?? I mean when it truly sinks in...OMG!!!
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,825
rob9872 said:
Bidwell is fine. There is another myth that needs debunking which says JDS is more progressive. I can't think of a single goal he's created. I could be wrong, but can't recall one.
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That's the most annoying thing. He works the ball up the pitch very well to just outside the opposition's box, only to then pretty much always fail to deliver any meaningful cross into the box.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,826
wingy said:
Where does this leave the performance director?
Assume she'll still be required, but hss she improved us in any way?
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Apparently we now have Premier levels of fitness, as is obvious watching the team.

Premier Inn, of course. They can change a super King duvet in a jiffy.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,827
Otis said:
That's the most annoying thing. He works the ball up very well to just outside the opposition's box, only to then pretty much always fail to deliver any meaningful cross into the box.
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Which is weird when you consider he’s got a decent delivery at corners if I’m not wrong
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,828
Somebody from "Sky Blue Extra" on TalkSport.
 

Boicey

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,829
False9 said:
It's the cost of the staff and Lampard that worries me with his track record.

There's nothing to suggest he's going to improve what we had so why bother gambling.
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What we had was a relegation zone team, demoralised, players out of position, poor basics skills, unclear first 11, unclear formation and a manager who looked lost as to what to do.
Let's hope we can improve on that.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #4,830
gspotgaz said:
Sexist
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How is that sexist?
 
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