shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Here come the insults again. Always a sign of a well reasoned argument
We need someone who will get more out of the players than they’ve shown under Robins. Happy with that? Otherwise what’s the point in sacking him!
Do you know what the word potential means?
I'm giving up on you now. You seem to have abandoned rational thought.
The self confessed Chelsea expertYep got it bang on.
So if he is announced as coach will you be supporting him?Exactly. Hes not started. He’s not the manager. All this “support him in the job” stuff is a bit silly when as of now he doesn’t have the job.
I'm bemused by the attempts of one individual in particular to constantly slag him offI've said it on another post, I remember the meltdown when Sillett and Curtis were appointed and look how that worked out?
Just bemused by the attempts to big up his managerial career so far.
Watched a great interview with Martin O’Neil talking to Troy deeney about how he shouldn’t have said what he said about dabbo, gave an example , said in his first managerial job at Wycombe he walked in thinking because of what he’d done as a player with forest the players would worship him, couldn’t have been more wrong, they didn’t give a shit what he’d done, he had to earn they’re respect, derby, Everton and Chelsea might not have been the right club for Lampard although he nearly got derby up , if it is him he could be exactly what we need, hopefully it all just clicks into placeHere come the insults again. Always a sign of a well reasoned argument
We need someone who will get more out of the players than they’ve shown under Robins. Happy with that? Otherwise what’s the point in sacking him!
Simplistic view. Money spent recklessly as it was frequently at Chelsea means bugger all.Surely Chelsea finishing 4th is the minimum expectation for a club that’s spent as much money as them over the years
Obviously.Here come the insults again. Always a sign of a well reasoned argument
We need someone who will get more out of the players than they’ve shown under Robins. Happy with that? Otherwise what’s the point in sacking him!
Utterly hypocritical re the insultsHere come the insults again. Always a sign of a well reasoned argument
We need someone who will get more out of the players than they’ve shown under Robins. Happy with that? Otherwise what’s the point in sacking him!
He and Jody Morris have parted ways I thinkExactly. I’m probably coming across as ‘pro-Lampard’ because I’m saying he’s objectively the best candidate. Some of the criticisms just don’t add up, Lampard isn’t ’just a name’.
I’m ‘meh’ about it because I have my reservations but if people look at it from a level-headed approach, Lampard and his staff could potentially offer us a lot. Lampard has a good team, Jody Morris and/or Ashley Cole are excellent coaches so even if they don’t take us to the Prem, they could move the club forward in other ways.
I’m choosing to be optimistic about things and time will tell if Lampard is the appointment and ultimately, a success or not. It’s make or break for Lampard too.
Perhaps Adi will work with himHe and Jody Morris have parted ways I think
Finally some senseThat's where I am with it.
Derby - Lampard is a genius and an amazing manager
Chelsea - Lampard is a genius and an amazing manager
Everton - absolutely nothing Lampard or anyone could have done. Can't place any blame on Lampard.
Chelsea - absolutely nothing Lampard or anyone could have done. Can't place any blame on Lampard
Surely Chelsea finishing 4th is the minimum expectation for a club that’s spent as much money as them over the years
I understand the point but the EFL and Premier League is littered with clubs who have tried and failed with foreign coaches.We’ll never know how the recruitment process was ran and what has/hasn’t been done, so it could be completely unfair, but this just seems lazy.
There are talented coaches out there who are showing how tactically aware and, at times, innovative they can be. I’ve mentioned several times examples, but Horneland and Nancy are two obvious ones.
Perhaps we did all that, but it’s been Lampard rumours since day one and, if one of the most reliable ITK’s is correct, since QPR away.
Feel like with some of the extremes on here every post has to be caveated; I’ll support Lampard, and I think he’ll do a decent job, but it’s anti climactic for me.
Massive decision to remove MR and a chance to make a big statement of intent with an exciting, up and coming coach, and we’ve gone for Frank Lampard.
I think it could be argued that appointing Robins second time round was lazy, but it turned out brilliantly well.
I said it turned out brilliantly well.I'd love to hear that argument, and who a team on the verge of relegation to L2 should have appointed?!
I agree with you as he was the only manager who seemed to work at the club in that period.I'd love to hear that argument, and who a team on the verge of relegation to L2 should have appointed?!
I said it turned out brilliantly well.
however after he left us first time he failed twice and was in the coaching wilderness for 18 months. It wasn’t a coup to get him, or as a consequence of a long and thorough process. It was a calculated gamble, and it paid off big time.
It could have been argued that turning to a former manager was lazy was my point not that I would have wanted someone else.
Point out previous failures then. Everton. Chelsea second stintWell this is it in a nutshell really.
He may well be brilliant for us, and I sincerely hope he is, but there is nothing wrong with pointing out his previous failures - that doesn't mean anyone wants him to fail now, that's a ridiculous thing to say.
That would only have made sense of he had failed in his last 2 appointments and been out of a job for 18 months.To give another example ….
Liverpool have chosen a Dutch coach despite Dutch coaches having an awful track record in English football over many decades.
They decided to take that risk.
So far it looks inspired.
It doesn't at all.I honestly doubt, given the state of the club, we were a very attractive proposition.
We definitely have far more options available now.
I don't see going down another route as any less or more of a gamble than Lampard but I just don't think the comparison with the reappointment Robins stands up personally.
Yeah, if I had to sum up my feelings in one word it would be "underwhelmed."We’ll never know how the recruitment process was ran and what has/hasn’t been done, so it could be completely unfair, but this just seems lazy.
There are talented coaches out there who are showing how tactically aware and, at times, innovative they can be. I’ve mentioned several times examples, but Horneland and Nancy are two obvious ones.
Perhaps we did all that, but it’s been Lampard rumours since day one and, if one of the most reliable ITK’s is correct, since QPR away.
Feel like with some of the extremes on here every post has to be caveated; I’ll support Lampard, and I think he’ll do a decent job, but it’s anti climactic for me.
Massive decision to remove MR and a chance to make a big statement of intent with an exciting, up and coming coach, and we’ve gone for Frank Lampard.
It was for 2 of the 3 full seasons he had here
Point out previous failures then. Everton. Chelsea second stint
Going after first Chelsea stint just screams troll. Even if you don't think it's a massive achievement to only se negatives in it shows real intentions
Ppl are taking out the sacking of robins on lampard and it's unfair
Arguably more pressure and expectation though managing the Chelsea owners unrealistic expectations and time frame for a young inexperienced manager. Also, a team full of owners playthings/big names all wanting to play, square pegs in round holes and all that.Come on you're not silly , it's hardly like managing Bournemouth or Southampton in the Premier league is it ?
If he manages that this season it would probably be the biggest achievement of his coaching career.If he manages to 'perform to par' which I think most would say is playoffs, then I'd say surely that's a good thing?
Let's hope then, eh?If he manages that this season it would probably be the biggest achievement of his coaching career.
Like I said only looking at negativesIn his first stint he got sacked with them in 9th place.
Tuchel came in and got them to 3rd and won the CL. His first season may have been OK but they were top 4 fora few seasons prior to that as well.
It's easier to pretend robins was victim of a evil master plan from king and redknapp as it then suits the posters wanting to hate the new managerPeople saying he achieved on par with expectations as if that's a bad thing...
We are UNDERACHIEVING. Robins was sacked for that. He wasn't sacked 'for' Lampard. Another phrase being used that's doing my head in. He was sacked, and if it's Lampard chosen to do the job then back him.
If he manages to 'perform to par' which I think most would say is playoffs, then I'd say surely that's a good thing?
Back the staff, back the players, back the club. If not willing to do the above, stop calling yourself a supporter. Look up the definition of the word.
How are the expectations unrealistic when you spend 200 million on players each season?Arguably more pressure and expectation though managing the Chelsea owners unrealistic expectations and time frame for a young inexperienced manager. Also, a team full of owners playthings/big names all wanting to play, square pegs in round holes and all that.
I don’t know if you saw that interview with Frank when he was explaining the issues of having to appease 30 big egos and having to manage the fall out of those that only made the bench or worse still the match day squad.
Not having a pop Evo but I would argue that managing Chelsea their abundant riches and expectations of a very wealthy/ruthless owner far exceeds, expectations of the likes of Bournemouth and Southampton, no disrespect to either, many many bigger names than Frank Lampard have fallen on the sword at that club.
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