Yeah I did get the impression he didn't want to say 'No' out loud so that he couldn't be held to it later on.
Ooh not very secret agent stuff, wait is that a black helicopter following me....?At one point he said we came here to gather information and then paused and changed the whole topic of convo.
He just blamed ACL for everything the bloke is a Clown yes they have a part top play but it is solely SISU's fault as they are the owners and run the club ACL must have caused the 60 million dept :thinking about:
Academy employee paid by Limited! Think he'll be getting called into his managers office tomorrow.m
Thanks for taking the time to post that, shame he had to cut it short by 40 minutes, was there any reason that the accounts/finance guy couldn't have continued. I'm disturbed that you think we might fold.
I've already had the call!
Especially Keith (or whatever his name was). He marked Tims cards too!
"LOOK AT ME WHEN IM TALKING TO YOU".
"I was making a note of your name Keith"
You've just directly contradtcted yourself here.
You've said ACL play a part [for our situation] yet, you said SISU are solely to blame, that means there's no one else to blame but SISU, which is it?
It would make sense that if TF still wanted to go through with building a new ground it would be better to stay at the Ricoh Arena during its construction instead of moving to Walsall..
I would be happy with that, because throughout that whole forum one thing we can all agree on is that TF is at least looking at a way to find a viable and financial method that looks to bring in improvement all around the club on and off the field by building our own ground and controlling our destiny.
I've already had the call!
I've already had the call!
I take it they evaded the point Paul ,but companies house is waiting.
I evaded the call..... Can't be arsed at the mo.
i dont see that m8 only more heartbreak and debt
Thought you put both points exceptionally well and a pin could have dropped.
I'm sure I read somewhere that the excessive policing costs will rule Brum out, potential for lots of hassle every other week.Yes but what if our first home game is at Walsall do we have the home end with 3000 fans while they have the away end with 5000? If at Brum the Brum fans have already said there will be trouble they don't want us there and we don't want to be there
Maybe the club wouldn't have run up such debts if we had 20k+ up the Ricoh every week? Perhaps if we could actually fill it we would be able to afford it. But apparently that would make you scum and not a real fan according to a few on hereYes You are right I meant that SISU are solely to blame for the debts they run the club ACL took what they could but should have offered a lower rent that is there only fault IMHO
I see the biggest issue being Fisher's admission that a club in administration cannot countenance a ground share.
So what, therefore, if we don't come out if administration on a timely basis? He can't progress the ground share arrangement. And this is out of his control.
First games are, what? Seven weeks away. Surely there's a point at which his grand plans are buggered?
Thanks. I might have been an employee until April this year when the tax year ended but I was a fan before and will be a fan always.
I'm just waiting written confirmation of the limited company that the PAYE no quoted on my P60 related to. Once I get it I will upload it on here!
As for FFP rules, with a move to a third party ground and Dim Tim talking about crowds of 3,000 what sort of budget will the Club have, probably just enough if cull the existing team and turn up with Academy players and a few Sunday league
Thought you put both points exceptionally well and a pin could have dropped.
Totally agree..this is the point i put to Timmy last week...he never answered it. I told him we would be like Oxford or Luton, and that even if we had a stadium it would not attract a worthwhilse sponsor. In the 4th division, it usually the local csrap company/taxi firm etc that sponsor the ground...DEPRESSING!!!... Force the bastards outThis is a key, key point and missed by many. FFP links our football expenditure to turnover. By moving to another clubs stadium for three years, many of the income streams claimed are necessary - such as naming rights won't be there. Small crowds will give rise to low incomes via ticket sales. Crazy though it sounds, our playing budget could be within the lowest in the division.
As such, we might not even last in the division for three years. And what chance then as a fourth tier club?!?
This is absolutely the point which is not really being picked up on. No ground share can be sanctioned until we are out of administration, and admin can take a very long time to sort out. Time is not something we've got much of as the new season approaches. Someone made the point that there have hardly been any rumours about where we might be playing next season - my guess is that no one wants us and SISU are bluffing when they claim to be in negotiations.. SISU's grand plans might be buggered, but so could we.
Maybe the club wouldn't have run up such debts if we had 20k+ up the Ricoh every week? Perhaps if we could actually fill it we would be able to afford it. But apparently that would make you scum and not a real fan according to a few on here
This is a key, key point and missed by many. FFP links our football expenditure to turnover. By moving to another clubs stadium for three years, many of the income streams claimed are necessary - such as naming rights won't be there. Small crowds will give rise to low incomes via ticket sales. Crazy though it sounds, our playing budget could be within the lowest in the division.
As such, we might not even last in the division for three years. And what chance then as a fourth tier club?!?[/QUO
The playing budget for this season is around half of what it is allowed to be on last years turnover circa £6M. This vital Turnover figure will very likely decrease next season to circa £2M. producing a player budget of Circa £1.2M. @ 65%. if we assume the same level of player budget as percentage next season you're looking at £0.6M.
I evaded the call..... Can't be arsed at the mo.
Well, tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life! It will be ok. If you've got a bit of nouse you will get a job in a few weeks.
I see the biggest issue being Fisher's admission that a club in administration cannot countenance a ground share.
So what, therefore, if we don't come out if administration on a timely basis? He can't progress the ground share arrangement. And this is out of his control.
First games are, what? Seven weeks away. Surely there's a point at which his grand plans are buggered?
sorry didn't put the quote inThey did ask. 10 year vision to get every pound from all footballing activities and have a competitive team still thinks 6-7 k will be watching at bescot
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