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Fortune & Armstrong (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Oct 4, 2015
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Gosb

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #1
Fortune and Armstrong - Sweet FA
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #2
Haven't had chance to see the highlights yet but reading the bbc report it sounds like fortune was pivotal in the game and FA make a good partnership.
 

covcity4life

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #3
They were great. Fortune works so haRd with closing down and winning ball back. He is good tehcnically. Strong enough to hold ball and can pick a pass. Once arms gets in a hood position he usually gets job done so to have a partner who makes the right pass must be great

Good times ahead
 

higgs

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #4
We are looking good 1 games in pusb
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #5
Fortune was magnificent yesterday!

Absolute masterclass in how to play that role, so much so I stood to applaud him when subbed (something I probably do for a player once a season!)
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #6
Is Fortune 32? If so, I can see him still going for a few more years yet, and if yesterday and his cameo last week are anything to go by, I look forward to seeing them being spent with us!
 

Samo

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #7
Gosb said:
Fortune and Armstrong - Sweet FA
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I hope AA is courageous enough to partner him as we all know what Fortune favours.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #8
sw88 said:
Is Fortune 32? If so, I can see him still going for a few more years yet, and if yesterday and his cameo last week are anything to go by, I look forward to seeing them being spent with us!
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34 but was excellent yesterday a very silky mover and has a good ability to get away from his marker.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #9
skybluetony176 said:
Haven't had chance to see the highlights yet but reading the bbc report it sounds like fortune was pivotal in the game and FA make a good partnership.
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Probably has a little bit more match fitness to pick up, hence the part time roles he has had so far.
 

stevefloyd

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #10
Just think when he is fully match fit.. I said yesterday I was really impressed with him...I loved the little turn and pass for Armstrongs 1st goal
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #11
My West Brom supporting boss raves about Fortune says his work rate is unbelievable, voted player of the season at Albion, was regularly subbed after 60/70 minutes knackered to a standing ovation. His presence is going to be crucial with all those speedy kids. I think Armstrong will end up with pan full of goals if he stays fit.
 

Gazolba

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #12
The good thing is we actually have several different options up front now. Would like to see a few more goals coming from Kent, Lameiras and Murphy.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #13
They sound like a pair of magicians or people that could do a nice Christmas hamper.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Oct 4, 2015
  • #14
Very promising partnership, as has been mentioned we now have so many options up front it is going to be a job keeping them all happy, and we still have Maddison to come back. Problems of the right kind for a change.
 
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Specs WT-R75

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #15
rupert_bear said:
My West Brom supporting boss raves about Fortune says his work rate is unbelievable, voted player of the season at Albion, was regularly subbed after 60/70 minutes knackered to a standing ovation. His presence is going to be crucial with all those speedy kids. I think Armstrong will end up with pan full of goals if he stays fit.
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Heard "exactly" the same from a pal of mine at work who supports WBA. If he is always subbed at 70/75 then that is not necessarily a bad thing, you can change it up then depending on how the game is going... like for like with Tudgay or if you are chasing the game someone like JOB/Lameiras/Thomas.

For me Fortune could be pivotal in our away games. I suspect he won't be playing tomorrow!
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #16
Johnnythespider said:
Very promising partnership, as has been mentioned we now have so many options up front it is going to be a job keeping them all happy, and we still have Maddison to come back. Problems of the right kind for a change.
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What's nice is that even if you take out our loans, this is the team:

Burge
Ricketts Martin Reda Stokes
Vincelot Fleck
JOB Maddison Lameiras
Fortune

That's a pretty strong team for all some people moan about us relying on loans.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #17
shmmeee said:
What's nice is that even if you take out our loans, this is the team:

Burge
Ricketts Martin Reda Stokes
Vincelot Fleck
JOB Maddison Lameiras
Fortune

That's a pretty strong team for all some people moan about us relying on loans.
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we only had 3 loans starting on saturday - and maddison could slot in for kent
There is only really Armstrong who we are relying on - but if and when he goes back, we will need to replace him with quality
 

Otis

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #18
shmmeee said:
What's nice is that even if you take out our loans, this is the team:

Burge
Ricketts Martin Reda Stokes
Vincelot Fleck
JOB Maddison Lameiras
Fortune

That's a pretty strong team for all some people moan about us relying on loans.
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The squad is the problem though, Shmmeee.

That's fine as a first 11, but where's the strength in depth?

And you have to say, without Armstrong, where would his goals have come from? He has been brilliant and the goals he has scored I don't think could have been scored by anyone else in our squad.

There is no doubt that Armstrong has made a hell of a difference and to a lesser extent, Murphy and Kent too.
 

covcity4life

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #19
Otis said:
The squad is the problem though, Shmmeee.

That's fine as a first 11, but where's the strength in depth?

And you have to say, without Armstrong, where would his goals have come from? He has been brilliant and the goals he has scored I don't think could have been scored by anyone else in our squad.

There is no doubt that Armstrong has made a hell of a difference and to a lesser extent, Murphy and Kent too.
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and thats what loans should do, make an impact

why are we moaning that we have great loan players? if we mad messi on loan from barca would we really be posting about if he will be recalled? or where our long term planning is?

enjoy the loans because they are WORKING!
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #20
Otis said:
The squad is the problem though, Shmmeee.

That's fine as a first 11, but where's the strength in depth?

And you have to say, without Armstrong, where would his goals have come from? He has been brilliant and the goals he has scored I don't think could have been scored by anyone else in our squad.

There is no doubt that Armstrong has made a hell of a difference and to a lesser extent, Murphy and Kent too.
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There's a difference between loans having an impact (you'd bloody hope so or why sign them) and us relying on loans though.

That team doesn't include the likes of RCC, Willis, Philips, Harries, Haynes, Thomas, Other Thomas. My point is that we have a good nucleus for L1 made into a great squad through use of the loan system.

If we are to go up this year then half the team will need replacing anyway such is the jump in quality. If not then anyone of quality will probably be sold, such is the game for a club of our status.

Armstrong would need replacing no doubt, but he's a position that, as we saw with Wilson, doesn't last long if they do well. We could conceivably go all the way to the Prem with a loaner top scorer and it wouldn't be an issue because they're the type of player that only lasts 2 seasons max at a club of our level.
 

Astute

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #21
If we got promoted this season I would like to see TM make a cheeky bid for Armstrong. He seems to enjoy playing for us and I think he would do well in the next level.
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #22
Astute said:
If we got promoted this season I would like to see TM make a cheeky bid for Armstrong. He seems to enjoy playing for us and I think he would do well in the next level.
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Amusing.
 

Astute

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #23
Speedies_Chips said:
Amusing.
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What is and why?
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #24
Astute said:
What is and why?
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That we could outbid anyone for him and SISU being prepared to do so.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #25
Depends who the owners are at that time!
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #26
rupert_bear said:
Depends who the owners are at that time!
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Fair point although I have a horrible feeling I know who it will be. Even if we get promoted, it would be hard to find a buyer given we have no assets etc. Wolves are now up for sale and I don't see a big queue there and they are in a much better state than us.
 

Otis

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #27
We could maybe make a cheeky bid for him if we have a cheeky £3m - £5m lying around.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #28
Speedies_Chips said:
Fair point although I have a horrible feeling I know who it will be. Even if we get promoted, it would be hard to find a buyer given we have no assets etc. Wolves are now up for sale and I don't see a big queue there and they are in a much better state than us.
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Are they ? We all know Tim Fisher always tells the truth and he says we are "cash positive" which I would say would be an ideal club to buy
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #29
Astute said:
If we got promoted this season I would like to see TM make a cheeky bid for Armstrong. He seems to enjoy playing for us and I think he would do well in the next level.
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Can't imagine Newcastle letting him go. If we do go up we might stand a chance of getting another year of him on loan. As you say he seems to like it here so it could work well all round.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #30
chiefdave said:
Can't imagine Newcastle letting him go. If we do go up we might stand a chance of getting another year of him on loan. As you say he seems to like it here so it could work well all round.
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not if we are then in the same league as his parent club
 

Astute

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #31
Speedies_Chips said:
That we could outbid anyone for him and SISU being prepared to do so.
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It is said to be worth an extra 5m a season in the Championship. TM decides where the money is spent. A cheeky 1m bid?
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #32
Astute said:
It is said to be worth an extra 5m a season in the Championship. TM decides where the money is spent. A cheeky 1m bid?
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I suppose it depends on how much of the extra 5mill TM would actually see.
 

Astute

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #33
Speedies_Chips said:
I suppose it depends on how much of the extra 5mill TM would actually see.
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60% if they keep TM to the current divisions rules. That is an extra 3m before the higher gates we would get. But there are different rules for the Championship so they could give him more. To me it would depend on how much of a chance they would give him to hit the jackpot for them.
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #34
Astute said:
60% if they keep TM to the current divisions rules. That is an extra 3m before the higher gates we would get. But there are different rules for the Championship so they could give him more. To me it would depend on how much of a chance they would give him to hit the jackpot for them.
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Our turnover with increased attendances will be about £10.5m in the championship, sisu aren't going to throw extra money (we lost/spent c£6m per annum extra treading water). Our player budget will go up to about £6.5-7m tops.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
 

Gazolba

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  • Oct 5, 2015
  • #35
Astute said:
If we got promoted this season I would like to see TM make a cheeky bid for Armstrong. He seems to enjoy playing for us and I think he would do well in the next level.
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It's more likely we will sell Maddison than buy Armstrong.
 
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