Nick
Administrator
There is no logic at all by trying to spin the blame and close it down on to CSF by requesting things in writing. It leaves them too wide open.
Where on earth is the logic to closing it? It's partly funded by the FA and the generation of revenue from it far outweighs the cost for them to run it.
You really need to get your head out of Wasps' backside.
Everybody really needs to move on. Sisu have been out manoeuvred .
Bearing a grudge will finish CCFC and it's only CCFC that needs to understand that Wasps/CCC/Higgs/CSF are just moving on without us.
Monty Pythons Black Night fits the bill.
What you mean is your previous point was bollocks so you change the conversation.
It's clearly not as simple as that is it?
But you've bought the PR bullshit totally.
Pretty sure there's a good deal of PR bs being served from all sides.
Bang on, they know they can't offer what the football club need, they admitted it right at the start. Talks are just a PR stunt.Straight up refused to put anything in writing.
Looks like their bluff was called then?
Standard line!
Pretty sure there's a good deal of PR bs being served from all sides.
Where on earth is the logic to closing it? It's partly funded by the FA and the generation of revenue from it far outweighs the cost for them to run it.
You really need to get your head out of Wasps' backside.
Yes Sisu are spinning the blame. They want it closed and it's not their fault. Well not on here anyway.
Yep, there is indeed. Don't know why people have to nail their flags to one particular side all the time.Pretty sure there's a good deal of PR bs being served from all sides.
Spin on both sides Italia
I am increasingly coming round to the opinion that the situation is not about SISU wanting to close the Academy but that it is simply a monumental cock up on the part of the CCFC directors that Wasps and CSF have exploited fully and coldly. The only way to add weight to that however is to find out what date CA first formally asked for a new deal at the AHC - got a feeling it will have been in April 2016. Strangely with all the emails and letters that do get released that one hasn't been or been asked for. Someone took their eye off what was vital for the club and now the panic is to try to rectify that.
It isn't the Wasps development that could kill the Academy, there are ways round that if you are flexible, it is the swimming pool and that's been out there in the public domain since July 2013?
Just an opinion though
Yep, there is indeed. Don't know why people have to nail their flags to one particular side all the time.
It's all getting very petty and very silly. A won't talk to B because of legal noise, B wants things in writing from A, A won't give things in writing, B invited to meeting to talk, B refuses.
It's all rather childish and the only party being hurt is Coventry City FC.
Mostly funded by the club though. The gamble I guess is can you still turn out a Wilson or Maddison every couple of years without the Cat 2 status? That's alot of money saved if you believe you can, especially at league one level. There's also the other cost, time. The academy is very time consuming and involved and that's a commodity that the club has been offloading in every area from the club shop to the tickets to the programs. It's not beyond the realm's of possibility that downgrading the academy is an extension of this philosophy. Less involvement, less staff and less outlay.
Mostly funded by the club though. The gamble I guess is can you still turn out a Wilson or Maddison every couple of years without the Cat 2 status? That's alot of money saved if you believe you can, especially at league one level. There's also the other cost, time. The academy is very time consuming and involved and that's a commodity that the club has been offloading in every area from the club shop to the tickets to the programs. It's not beyond the realm's of possibility that downgrading the academy is an extension of this philosophy. Less involvement, less staff and less outlay.
Said the other day the objection and the Reid articles have no planning substance and are simply PR pieces in my opinion. They are aimed at the fans really, the decision makers will largely ignore the content. But like I said it isn't the Wasps development that is killing the Academy - its gross mis-management and 50m bath
No I don't expect anything than the plans to be approved
I don't think there is a commercial argument to downgrade academy. I also don't think you can compare ticketing and retail reorganisations to it.
If you can produce regular talent - which we have done consistently even down in 2nd and 3rd tier there is a regular funding stream to support the first team.
But then even downgrading to the next teir isn't going to be free is it? Unless they fully close it.
Never said it would be. It would however save money, time and resources. That's also a precedent that the club have set over the last 12 and a bit months. Not saying it is the case, just saying that it's not beyond the realms of possibilities.
Never said it would be. It would however save money, time and resources. That's also a precedent that the club have set over the last 12 and a bit months. Not saying it is the case, just saying that it's not beyond the realms of possibilities.
Again if that's so why not just say it. Who would care?
Here is what is happening. Take your pick:
1. Ccfc don't want to stay and want to cut costs and move the academy and knock down the running costs.
2. Wasps/csf want us gone and can't offer us anything to standard anyway.
3. Both 1 and 2 and the fans know none the wiser.
Everybody really needs to move on. Sisu have been out manoeuvred .
Bearing a grudge will finish CCFC and it's only CCFC that needs to understand that Wasps/CCC/Higgs/CSF are just moving on without us.
Monty Pythons Black Night fits the bill.
No I can see why people might think CCFC want to close it down etc but spin the blame.
Don't you think by doing that by insisting on it being in writing with how good Wasps PR is, is a bit of a death wish if it is them who want to close it down?
Calm down, I must be one of the most vocal against SISU and what they stand for onBollocks,
Their are people who don't want our owners to succeed I am one.
They have done nothing what so ever for our club NOTHING
Lost our right to the ground.
Cant be bothered to fight for our academy.
Took us to Sixfields
As for the Club to succeeding yes yes yes, sorry but I don't see our owners wanting that.
Thats my opinion if you don't agree great, but don't try saying we are not City fans.
I and many others like me haven't brought season tickets to watch them lose.
Depends what's on the list. Has CA ever gone public with what's on the list?
Plus let's face it. When it comes to PR Wasps haven't really got to do a lot to look better than us. CA has pulled a blinder for them by not attending the meeting. He's lost out twice in the PR games with that. If he had have attended the meeting and all that happened was Wasps and CSF tried to find excuses not to accommodate the academy he could have come out and said so and then referred back to the lack of reply to his letter as further confirmation that we're being forced out. The only two reasons that I can think of why CA couldn't legitimately attend the meeting is either because of the planning objection or the danger that the answers might have been yes to everything or yes to enough so that the academy could continue with it's current status albeit on more than one site. I'm willing to give CA the benefit of doubt in light of the planning objection and say it's about the planning objection but I ain't 100% convinced.
Again if that's so why not just say it. Who would care?
I'm sure that all of the information that CA wants in writing would have been forthcoming at the meeting. It would then be in the minutes. If CA had bothered attending, he would now have the information he wants and could plan accordingly. This type of nonsense between the two parties beggars belief.
Not really, if they didn't have to do anything your thread wouldn't have been hammered
If he was scared about the answers being yes to everything, why would he demand it in writing? That doesn't make sense.
Are there minutes out from when the sky Blue Trust met them then?
I think people are being a bit naive on it all
If the information he wants is all there, why not send it to him and blow him out of the water? That would put him on the spot.
Probably because he knew he wouldn't get it.
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