Nick
Administrator
Yeah I think they were in on the rent strike weren't they? Then tried to beck out.
Can't remember 100% how it went so don't quote me on it.
Yeah I think they were in on the rent strike weren't they? Then tried to beck out.Did the council not think this was a good idea originally? Were they not in cahoots with SISU about this?
Perhaps it's marginally of some importance and a bit more so than is it pay on the gate at Rochdale.
Just maybe.
Why did it take balls? The council is a huge organisation with c£200m budget, 6-7k employees, a huge legal team and chief exec on £230k pa. They aren't some small business.I was impressed that the council stood up for itself when SISU were as the high court judge stated trying to drive the value of ACL down.
It took a lot of balls for the council not to be be bullied and when the council stood up for itself.
That's when asISU should have realised they had pushed too far abd either put in a sensible offer or signed up long term on a tent deal.
Unfortunately the likes of yourself kept encouraging them to keep pushing further and further.
Which was ajaays only going to go one way
Why did it take balls? The council is a huge organisation with c£200m budget, a huge legal team and chief exec on £230k pa. They aren't some small business.
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Yeah I think they were in on the rent strike weren't they? Then tried to beck out..
Ahh but they are City fans. They just want the posion that is SISU away from their club. No matter the cost. Short term pain for long term gain. It would be worth dropping to the Conference to rid us of these parasites.
That is what people say. You know like begging the local council not to sell the Ricoh to them as they would mortgage it. Yet applaud Wasps for their business acumen in doing the same thing. It really is incredible.
Are you for real? Stakeholders would happily come to the table. I quoted what you said. How is dreamland?
You are extremely angry, and will remain so as long as people don'tIf we didn't have CCFC fans attending there matches it might send out a message? If people didn't buy the Telegraph it might send out a message? If Wasps are given bad press? If the council are challenged? If CCFC fans attended games and put more money in the budget? You know, not refusing to go because of the owners. I said before I don't buy the whole I have a season ticket I'm a better fan stuff, but refusing to go because of the owners is a bit counter productive. We know SISU are not taking money out. OSB looks and advises us of this and he can't be accused of backing the clubs owners, the opposite if anything.
Did the council not think this was a good idea originally? Were they not in cahoots with SISU about this?
Is it possible for the match threads to auto refresh rather than having to reload the page?Watch the match threads
(Reminds me I'd best set them up)
I don't believe SISU do want to invest, what makes you think they do
Is it possible for the match threads to auto refresh rather than having to reload the page?
Yep, totally agree.If we didn't have CCFC fans attending there matches it might send out a message? If people didn't buy the Telegraph it might send out a message? If Wasps are given bad press? If the council are challenged? If CCFC fans attended games and put more money in the budget? You know, not refusing to go because of the owners.
You are extremely angry, and will remain so as long as people don't
Share your views. IMO
What did the original 2014 High Court judgment say?
Among the judge’s key findings was that the crisis at ACL had been triggered by Sisu refusing to pay rent £1.3m annual rent. He added the withdrawal of rent was a deliberate strategy by Sisu to “distress ACL’s financial position, with a view to driving down the value of ACL and thus the price of a share in it, which they coveted.”
Apologies, when I replied to Nick it kept an old reply I'd started and not finished, I edited the post but not quickly enough.Another one. Point out to me where I said they want to invest? People want them to invest.
Not trying to spin anything, I loath rugby and had never heard of WaspsI'm angry because you don't agree with me? Spin it how you like
What did the original 2014 High Court judgment say?
Among the judge’s key findings was that the crisis at ACL had been triggered by Sisu refusing to pay rent £1.3m annual rent. He added the withdrawal of rent was a deliberate strategy by Sisu to “distress ACL’s financial position, with a view to driving down the value of ACL and thus the price of a share in it, which they coveted.”
The judge said that the club unilaterally decided to withhold the rent. The evidence given said ACL were asked to agree to a rent holiday but didn't give permission. The bit where SISU and the Council joined forces was when they were using the fact there was a rent strike to offer a reduced loan repayment to Yorkshire bank.Yeah I think they were in on the rent strike weren't they? Then tried to beck out.
Can't remember 100% how it went so don't quote me on it.
Why did it take balls? The council is a huge organisation with c£200m budget, 6-7k employees, a huge legal team and chief exec on £230k pa. They aren't some small business.
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No it wouldn't.would have been a lot easier to let SISU get their way
Hang on the world has changed - how about the idiots who own us deal with the world as it is and invest some money.Hang on, the higgs was built in part specifically our academy, and bar one year we have been based there paying rent since it was opened.
In fact as now reported, having the academy there was instrumental in getting planning permission for building higgs on greenbelt land in the first place.
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Applauds them for standing up to "bullies", meanwhile they bully others. Can't think of anybody better to be proud of.would have been a lot easier to let SISU get their way
I think he believes the council is full of upstanding citizens with good morals and strong principles. The sort of people who wouldn't accept gifts that could be viewed as a bribe. Oh wait....
If the Council wanted to drive the value up why did it not issue a 250 year lease in 2014?
Not sure about driving it up
I think they just stood up to SISU when it looked like the value was was potentially going to be driven down to nothing.
Leaving a charity and the council with nothing
That was never going to happen once David Alvey joined the YB board IMOThe judge said that the club unilaterally decided to withhold the rent. The evidence given said ACL were asked to agree to a rent holiday but didn't give permission. The bit where SISU and the Council joined forces was when they were using the fact there was a rent strike to offer a reduced loan repayment to Yorkshire bank.
No it wouldn't.
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Of course it would
Look at what's happening now and everything that has happened over the last 4-5 years
It was reported the council were ok with the idea initially. No blinder person than someone who doesn't want to see.
And? It's nothing that is a big deal to a council the size of coventry. It's just a minor irritation in the scheme of things.
Yes I am sure all this legal action, JUdicial Reviews, Ethical Hearings. The Secretary of State, the football club moving to Northampton. Having to do deals with Wasps.
The Ricoh empty
Was all standard day to day business as usual!!
It was part of the initial road map set out between sisu and the council when they were talking. It didn't come to fruition for whatever reason. The council have never denied it.
According to the info that came out in the court minutes, Fisher had a meeting with ACL and suggested a road map which included a rent holiday, ACL then phoned and wrote to him a couple of days later saying they didn't accept a rent holiday. The judge decided that the club unilaterally decided to withhold the rent.It was part of the initial road map set out between sisu and the council when they were talking. It didn't come to fruition for whatever reason. The council have never denied it.
Or I just think they choose the tough path and stood up for themselves, when it would have been less painful to let SISU bully them into submission.
I haven't said anything about bribes morals ect.
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