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Frostie

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #71
clint van damme said:
some turnaround that. We just need to find a way to carry a bit more threat without jeopardising are new found defensive solidity too much.
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Such a blow to never have the luxury of both Godden & Walker available at the same time.
Every team has had to contend with injuries more than ever this season but it obviously has a bigger impact on the smaller/weaker teams.

I don't think we're too far off, just need to improve the decision making & quality in the final third.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #72
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Appoint a witch doctor to bring back Walker, Kelly and Marosi.
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I'm not sure Marosi will help too much in the attacking department!

Would be great to have Walker fit but I can't see him being fully match fit for months. I don't think we'll see him at his best until next season.
Kelly back might allow Robins to risk pushing O'Hare further forward more.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #73
Frostie said:
100%
Such a blow to never have the luxury of both Godden & Walker available at the same time.
Every team has had to contend with injuries more than ever this season but it obviously has a bigger impact on the smaller/weaker teams.

I don't think we're too far off, just need to improve the decision making & quality in the final third.
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You expect to pick up knocks over a season, perhaps lose players for a couple of games on the spin. Each time we get one it’s been minimum 6 weeks and the player has to be carefully nursed back to match fitness. That and for both Godden and Marosi they are just freak injuries
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #74
clint van damme said:
I'm not sure Marosi will help too much in the attacking department!

Would be great to have Walker fit but I can't see him being fully match fit for months. I don't think we'll see him at his best until next season.
Kelly back might allow Robins to risk pushing O'Hare further forward more.
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He gives me fewer jitters on the ball than Wilson! And he still gave me a few anyway...

We need short term cover for the other positions though. At central midfield there must be at least a few decent free agents knocking about. If Hamer also gets clattered we really struggle in that part of the pitch
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #75
Frostie said:
100%
Such a blow to never have the luxury of both Godden & Walker available at the same time.
Every team has had to contend with injuries more than ever this season but it obviously has a bigger impact on the smaller/weaker teams.

I don't think we're too far off, just need to improve the decision making & quality in the final third.
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whether 1 or 2 up top we still leave the strikers very isolated. When we were chasing the game against Derby we had two strikers and 3 midfielders in the box when we scored and Hamer the scorer lurking on the edge.

We rarely create those type of situations, but of course, if we pile forward at every opportunity we'll be back to square one. That's the conundrum Robins has to solve.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #76
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He gives me fewer jitters on the ball than Wilson! And he still gave me a few anyway...

We need short term cover for the other positions though. At central midfield there must be at least a few decent free agents knocking about. If Hamer also gets clattered we really struggle in that part of the pitch
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and of course Hamer was booked again yesterday so suspension as well as injury could see him miss games.
I actually thought he was quite disciplined yesterday but copped that yellow near the end.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #77
clint van damme said:
whether 1 or 2 up top we still leave the strikers very isolated. When we were chasing the game against Derby we had two strikers and 3 midfielders in the box when we scored and Hamer the scorer lurking on the edge.

We rarely create those type of situations, but of course, if we pile forward at every opportunity we'll be back to square one. That's the conundrum Robins has to solve.
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A lot of the goals we conceded weren’t to do with being caught on the break or being dragged out of position though. For the most part, as they have been since that break, it was set pieces, daft penalties and giving the ball away in needless positions.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #78
clint van damme said:
and of course Hamer was booked again yesterday so suspension as well as injury could see him miss games.
I actually thought he was quite disciplined yesterday but copped that yellow near the end.
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Previously he was getting cards in the first half and having to be brought off early. He is getting better at it which is all we can ask for.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #79
clint van damme said:
and of course Hamer was booked again yesterday so suspension as well as injury could see him miss games.
I actually thought he was quite disciplined yesterday but copped that yellow near the end.
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Did he get booked? Can’t recall that
 
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steve cooper

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #80
No he didn't get booked
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #81
Grendel said:
Did he get booked? Can’t recall that
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steve cooper said:
No he didn't get booked
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could have swore he did!
Fair play to him, he was definitely more disciplined yesterday.
 

Frostie

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #82
clint van damme said:
could have swore he did!
Fair play to him, he was definitely more disciplined yesterday.
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He should have been, 2 cynical trips in as many seconds but somehow got away with it. Maybe our luck is turning!
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #83
Frostie said:
He should have been, 2 cynical trips in as many seconds but somehow got away with it. Maybe our luck is turning!
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was that towards the end?
 

speedie87

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #84
Yeah the ref was making up for sending him off earlier in season
 

Frostie

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #85
clint van damme said:
was that towards the end?
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Yeah, he was caught up the field & they broke away so he cynically tripped their player from behind just by the halfway line. Another of their players picked up possession & ref tried to play advantage so Hamer intentionally took him out too
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #86
Frostie said:
Yeah, he was caught up the field & they broke away so he cynically tripped their player from behind just by the halfway line. Another of their players picked up possession & ref tried to play advantage so Hamer intentionally took him out too
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I remember, Clive said that will be a booking for Hamer which is why I thought he'd been booked but the ref didn't card him.
 

Barnsley

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #87
Our head coach as been in charge for 14 games now, and we’re play off place contention form during them 14 games.
He definitely doesn’t like draws, if we’re drawing late on he goes shit or bust.

 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #88
If we can find some creative spark in Jan I’m sure we will be ok,m
 

Greggs

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #89
Barnsley said:
Our head coach as been in charge for 14 games now, and we’re play off place contention form during them 14 games.
He definitely doesn’t like draws, if we’re drawing late on he goes shit or bust.

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not this c**t again........
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #90
clint van damme said:
whether 1 or 2 up top we still leave the strikers very isolated. When we were chasing the game against Derby we had two strikers and 3 midfielders in the box when we scored and Hamer the scorer lurking on the edge.

We rarely create those type of situations, but of course, if we pile forward at every opportunity we'll be back to square one. That's the conundrum Robins has to solve.
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Balance or Ceteris Paribus if you want to be posh.
 
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steve cooper

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #91
clint van damme said:
could have swore he did!
Fair play to him, he was definitely more disciplined yesterday.
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Or the ref was more lenient than usual. Neither BBC nor Sky showing any bookings for us.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #92
steve cooper said:
Or the ref was more lenient than usual. Neither BBC nor Sky showing any bookings for us.
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as Frostie said, he got away with a couple at the end, (that's what I thought he'd been booked for), but earlier in the game there were a couple of occasions where he went to make a challenge but stopped because he knew he wasn't getting the ball, in the same situation earlier in the season I think he commits a foul.
Hopefully he's learning.
 

Barnsley

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #93
Greggs said:
not this c**t again........
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Got another stat for ya pal, in 2020 we’ve played 41 games and picked up 59 points with Rotherham still to play on Tuesday. We’ve been in play off chasing form all year, with one of the smallest budgets in the league.

Not a bad side us pal.
 

Greggs

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #94
Barnsley said:
Got another stat for ya pal, in 2020 we’ve played 41 games and picked up 59 points with Rotherham still to play on Tuesday. We’ve been in play off chasing form all year, with one of the smallest budgets in the league.

Not a bad side us pal.
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Honestly pal, no one cares. Leon Best always had a good game against you, so you must be shit
 

Barnsley

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  • Dec 27, 2020
  • #95
Greggs said:
Honestly pal, no one cares. Leon Best always had a good game against you, so you must be shit
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admit it you’re impressed aren’t you ?.
 

Covkid1968#

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  • Dec 28, 2020
  • #96
Barnsley said:
Got another stat for ya pal, in 2020 we’ve played 41 games and picked up 59 points with Rotherham still to play on Tuesday. We’ve been in play off chasing form all year, with one of the smallest budgets in the league.

Not a bad side us pal.
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Rotherham should be a banker for you guys.... fair play.... makes our result against you seem more acceptable.
 

Barnsley

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  • Dec 29, 2020
  • #97
Covkid1968# said:
Rotherham should be a banker for you guys.... fair play.... makes our result against you seem more acceptable.
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We’re going under the radar a little bit and the moment, myself and most of our fan base can see just how well we’re doing on the pitch, but we’re also building a very good 40/50 man squad, we’ve got a first team squad with the average age of just under 23, but we’ve also got an under 23 squad that’s sat 3rd in the development league table having won 7 of our 11 games. Judging by our summer signings we’re continuing to get recruitment right, and we’ll no doubt bring in 3or4 players in January, plus we’ve got the players developing in the under 23s that have a clear pathway to the first team.

At the moment fans of opposition clubs aren’t really seeing us as an emerging threat to the top end of the league, but like I’ve been saying on here since I signed up, we really are, our clubs improving in all areas, scouting, recruitment, contract negotiation, and back room staff, but most importantly the players are improving with every game. If we continue as we are we’ll be an established top half club at the very least, over the next few years, key to us continuing to improve, is getting the timing right as to when we sell players, if we can do that we’ll go from strength to strength in my opinion.
 
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Bertola

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  • Dec 29, 2020
  • #98
@Barnsley I was listening to an Athletic podcast a few weeks ago, with Paul Conway, discussing the type of model you have within your club. Was a fascinating listen, well worth checking out if you've not listened already.

Are you concerned that the Employment rules after 1st Jan will affect your recruitment policy, both in terms of players and staff? It's something which could impact us as well, as players like Hamer may have struggled for a work permit post-brexit
 
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Magwitch

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  • Dec 29, 2020
  • #99
Hamer is Brazilian isn’t he ? So I’m assuming he has passed the employment rules we have with that country. Not sure of what the new rules are but earning a minimum of £25k per year is one.
 

Bertola

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  • Dec 29, 2020
  • #100
I'm not upto speed myself, but remember seeing this tweet
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Although interestingly the twt he refers to has since been deleted, so maybe they were mistaken
 
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