He would be extremely foolish to do so imho, we’ve hit a rough patch no doubt, but I would like to think DK would take more credence from Mark Robins record over the last 7 years rather than the last 7 games.I've been supporting the club since 1967, Robins has done an amazing job , but things change, revolve and move on. If he doesn't improve results the owner will change things.
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Notts County away was the day I saw better days ,the atmosphere,the camaraderie,just every emotion after the previous 10+ years . That night will never leave me ,that was special and that was the start
I’m sure he’ll turn things around as we tend to get going around this time (for whatever reason) but the issue atm is the team spirit and passion that got us all of those mentioned trophies and accolades has completely disappeared.
Robins has been brilliant, no doubt about it, but his task is to find a way of getting the team fighting for the badge again, if he can’t by Christmas then I believe someone else should be appointed as manager. I could be wrong here but I think I counted 4 league wins out of 19 games since the start of March, around 1 in 5, that’s ridiculously bad form. I’ve always believed in Robins but I’m not willing to blindly stick with him forever due to pure sentiment.
Why does everyone insist on including results from last season? Last season is totally irrelevant.
Based on what? I’d say we’d benefit from a new manager bounce as is regularly the case.Unless we were to get really lucky with our choice, any new manager would be more likely to take us backwards rather than forwards. We would be really stupid to dispose of MR right now.
I just think it shows how poor we’ve been for a longer period of time than just the 7 games this season. It’s basically the same team with the same manager, just with a few months gap in between, I don’t see how you can just ignore half a season’s worth of data. People say Robins isn’t on borrowed time because he has time in the bank, are the many achievements Robins has made with with us also irrelevant because they’re from previous seasons? Obviously not.
Robins has been brilliant for us but for the last 20-30 games our play style and team spirit has disappeared almost completely. I still believe Robins will turn it around but if not then I think post-Christmas would be a good time to look for a new manager. I’m not saying we won’t pick up but if we don’t then I’m not willing to watch us finish bottom 5 just because we love the manager.
Most management changes end in failure, hence the term 'the managerial merry go round', which we previously endured in the Reid/ Adams/ Dowie/ Coleman/ Bothroyd/ Thorn days. Yes there is an occasional bounce to start with, but it is very rarely sustained. If we get rid of MR it would be a complete lottery as to whether we bring in someone successful, and in my opinion we are much more likely to prosper with someone proven like MR than someone new to the club.Based on what? I’d say we’d benefit from a new manager bounce as is regularly the case.
not saying sack the guy - but you have no idea who’d come in and what effect they’d have
“Most managerial changes end in failure” on what length of time?Most management changes end in failure, hence the term 'the managerial merry go round', which we previously endured in the Reid/ Adams/ Dowie/ Coleman/ Bothroyd/ Thorn days. Yes there is an occasional bounce to start with, but it is very rarely sustained. If we get rid of MR it would be a complete lottery as to whether we bring in someone successful, and in my opinion we are much more likely to prosper with someone proven like MR than someone new to the club.
It's not so much the change in manager I'd be worried about. It's our fan base. If some are turning on a club legend like Robins imagine what they'd do to a new manager who didn't get results. Slippery slope
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Last season we were cooked and had no replacements for knackered players, totally irrelevant to what's happening nowI just think it shows how poor we’ve been for a longer period of time than just the 7 games this season. It’s basically the same team with the same manager, just with a few months gap in between, I don’t see how you can just ignore half a season’s worth of data. People say Robins isn’t on borrowed time because he has time in the bank, are the many achievements Robins has made with with us also irrelevant because they’re from previous seasons? Obviously not.
Robins has been brilliant for us but for the last 20-30 games our play style and team spirit has disappeared almost completely. I still believe Robins will turn it around but if not then I think post-Christmas would be a good time to look for a new manager. I’m not saying we won’t pick up but if we don’t then I’m not willing to watch us finish bottom 5 just because we love the manager.
The great Brian Clough always was worth listening too and another one of his great quotes was-Most management changes end in failure, hence the term 'the managerial merry go round', which we previously endured in the Reid/ Adams/ Dowie/ Coleman/ Bothroyd/ Thorn days. Yes there is an occasional bounce to start with, but it is very rarely sustained. If we get rid of MR it would be a complete lottery as to whether we bring in someone successful, and in my opinion we are much more likely to prosper with someone proven like MR than someone new to the club.
Last season we were cooked and had no replacements for knackered players, totally irrelevant to what's happening now
Similar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.
I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.
IdiotSimilar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.
I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.
Last 3rd of the season =Similar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.
I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.
None of our players look knackered and even if they did we now have a full squad of players (maybe other than CM) who don’t really make the side any weaker. We will win a lot of games this season after December when it’s 3 games a week as other sides don’t have the depth we now doSimilar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.
I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.
I'm not so sure Evo,this was the time the switch of coaching changes was instigated at least talked about with Adi having his appraisal or whatever ,so not only fatigued player's but other stuff in the background upsetting the applecart, more that than prima Donna's I think?Last 3rd of the season = View attachment 38735
From bonfire night up until that Leeds game we'd won 14 drew 5 lost 5
If we add the fa cup run we won 18 drew 5 lost 6
We quite literally fell off with 6 games to go .
It's frankly PATHETIC to even look at that form as an ongoing thing
From bonfire night up until that Leeds game we'd won 14 drew 5 lost 5
If we add the fa cup run we won 18 drew 5 lost 6
We quite literally fell off with 6 games to go .
It's frankly PATHETIC to even look at that form as an ongoing thing
We should avoid relegation if we hit that form!massive week
win 2 and we are back on track 11 points from 9 would not be so bad
lose 2 and it is probably the end of an era - as MR said himself it is not sustainable
We need to massively get behind the team tonight, and then its over to them . If they dont turn up they have truly let the manager and us down - we need a Man Utd / Wolves performance tonight
Also O’Hare’s pedestrian approach to football mid-feb onwards.I'm not so sure Evo,this was the time the switch of coaching changes was instigated at least talked about with Adi having his appraisal or whatever ,so not only fatigued player's but other stuff in the background upsetting the applecart, more that than prima Donna's I think?
Similar to this season tbf, we seem to already have knackered players and even less replacements.
I don’t see how we can write off the form of the last third of last season as if it doesn’t count just because there’s been a couple of months gap in between, it’s the same manager and pretty much exactly the same team. If I’d been underperforming at work and on the verge of being sacked then going on holiday for a few months wouldn’t suddenly mean all is forgiven. The win yesterday is a step in the right direction but there’s still a long way to go. I still believe in Robins but it’s only one win in a long line of poor results, let’s just hope it’s the start of many.
He wants Robins out but won't post it . He also thinks we should be signing Bellingham and Foden .I'll ask this question again, why did nobody tag the end of 22-23 on to the start of 23-24 when they were melting down about the poor start that season?
There was only a couple of months gap between the 2.
He wants Robins out but won't post it . He also thinks we should be signing Bellingham and Foden .
This is the pertinent one tbf but we've had a different cause since then,an influx of finance and a new owner, not just a passive bystander?I'll ask this question again, why did nobody tag the end of 22-23 on to the start of 23-24 when they were melting down about the poor start that season?
There was only a couple of months gap between the 2.
Well we were post mini ice age in our formative year's and things have certainly heated up since then, question is, when will anyone be left?Anyone else read the title of the thread and think there can't be many left from 1883 now?
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