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AFCCOVENTRY · Sep 28, 2020

Just reading the letter Damian Collins has submitted to Oliver Dowden on many football league clubs and further down the pyramid are on the bring of major redundancies, shutting of academies and some will go out of business. I think there is literally a cold hard winter coming and there will be clubs in each league going under and into administration. A very sad state of affairs where fans can’t pay to get into a stadium this season but what options are there?

We are lucky we are now being run in a sustainable way and cash from the likes of Callum Wilson sale will keep us going.

KenilworthSkyBlue · Sep 28, 2020

The Premier League need to intervene with a bailout. The government have already made it quite clear that no help is coming from them, and I expect they are relying on the Premier League to foot the bill. It'll come at a cost but it's the only option lower league teams have. If not then I expect 4-5 clubs in the EFL to enter administration by Christmas, and probably at least double that in the National League.

Kingokings204 · Sep 28, 2020

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Just reading the letter Damian Collins has submitted to Oliver Dowden on many football league clubs and further down the pyramid are on the bring of major redundancies, shutting of academies and some will go out of business. I think there is literally a cold hard winter coming and there will be clubs in each league going under and into administration. A very sad state of affaire where fans can’t pay to get into a stadium this season but what options are there?

We are lucky we are now being run in a sustainable way and cash from the likes of Callum Wilson sale will keep us going.

I personally didn’t see a problem with carrying on the staggered comeback for fans. I still don’t get why teams can’t run at least 25% gates as a trial for a month or two and build up. Some fans is better than no fans. We play outdoors and we can social distance by which time we can build up attendances.
End of the day what’s the end game? We want 30k crowds back cheering football teams on again. If you’re scared and don’t want to go then don’t. It’s always been a choice thing for me.

Sky Blue Pete · Sep 28, 2020

The government can go back on the trial

OldBedrocker · Sep 28, 2020

The Premier League will want their pound of flesh for any bailout be it capped fees for transfers from EFL clubs particularly for younger players or doing away with relegation

KenilworthSkyBlue · Sep 28, 2020

Kingokings204 said:
I personally didn’t see a problem with carrying on the staggered comeback for fans. I still don’t get why teams can’t run at least 25% gates as a trial for a month or two and build up. Some fans is better than no fans. We play outdoors and we can social distance by which time we can build up attendances.
End of the day what’s the end game? We want 30k crowds back cheering football teams on again. If you’re scared and don’t want to go then don’t. It’s always been a choice thing for me.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. For a lot of clubs reduced capacity actually costs them rather than makes them money.

Hutch11 · Sep 28, 2020

Sit in a crowded bar no mask on watching the games
Cant go to the match with a mask on and socially distance , doesn't make sense

AFCCOVENTRY · Sep 28, 2020

Do we know which clubs are in dire financial situation in the Champ?

Sky Blue Harry H · Sep 28, 2020

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Do we know which clubs are in dire financial situation in the Champ?

Wouldn't surprise me if a group of clubs (probably League 1 and below) went into admin in a co-ordinated fashion (or at least threatened it), particularly if they can manage it in a way to avoid being relegated. Some Championship clubs will find their TV income from fans plummet if they underperform. With costs at a high level. look at how the likes of Derby, Forest etc may suffer if they keep struggling. The 'casual' fans just won't pay on a regular basis when their team is playing badly over a period of time.

skyblue025 · Sep 29, 2020

We could adopt the Swedish approach to Covid and just carry on with our normal lives with sensible precautions.

superskyblue · Sep 29, 2020

skyblue025 said:
We could adopt the Swedish approach to Covid and just carry on with our normal lives with sensible precautions.

Based on their Covid case numbers, no thanks!

Skyblueweeman · Sep 29, 2020

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Wouldn't surprise me if a group of clubs (probably League 1 and below) went into admin in a co-ordinated fashion (or at least threatened it), particularly if they can manage it in a way to avoid being relegated. Some Championship clubs will find their TV income from fans plummet if they underperform. With costs at a high level. look at how the likes of Derby, Forest etc may suffer if they keep struggling. The 'casual' fans just won't pay on a regular basis when their team is playing badly over a period of time.

Interesting concept and one I hadn't thought of. I guess it could happen and would certainly be a statement of intent to try and force some hands but I'm not so sure it's the best way to go about things.

It's also interesting the comments (not just on here tbf) that the EPL should just bail out the EFL. I've found that quite amusing as I think - well, why should they? As much as I know the clubs in the EFL would be a lot better financially with some money from the EPL, if I was the EPL, I'd be giving a handout on the basis that the EFL needs a proper shakedown from top to bottom.

Whilst the EPL (rightly or wrongly) gets so much money from TV deals, they shouldn't have to bail out the EFL.

Tough one and I know the reasons why they should help and why they shouldn't, I just think they'll put stipulations on any handouts.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Sep 29, 2020

If the government meant are bailing out the crown estate, why can’t they bail out the football league? Football clubs are businesses aswell

Macca1987 · Sep 29, 2020

Totally agree, they are bailing out the arts to approx 1.2 billion because covid meant their closure, it is the same for football clubs, it's the government that has chosen to ban outdoor sports events like football, so it should be in their remit to help in these dire straits that clubs find themselves in.

Skyblueweeman · Sep 29, 2020

I agree wholeheartedly with the last two posts. Unfortunately there's the public perception that football clubs are loaded and giving money to them, over, say hospitals, would look back.

Totally agree though.

Evo1883 · Sep 29, 2020

A rescue package from sky and the government would have been enough with the agreement of the premier league...

The Government should remember the amount of money football puts into the economy each year, it far surpasses the value of any form of help...

7.6 billion the prem alone puts into the economy

Paxman II · Sep 29, 2020

Boris needs to end the nonsensenical need for continued lockdowns and curbing our freedoms as the evidence fails to back it.

BornSlippySkyBlue · Sep 29, 2020

Evo1883 said:
A rescue package from sky and the government would have been enough with the agreement of the premier league...

The Government should remember the amount of money football puts into the economy each year, it far surpasses the value of any form of help...

7.6 billion the prem alone puts into the economy

Which is over 3 times as much as the fishing industry, and look how important they claim that is...

Magwitch · Sep 29, 2020

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Do we know which clubs are in dire financial situation in the Champ?

Was on radio the other day Reading FC as an example for every £1 that came in they were spending £1.33, not sure if they still are, they are not on their own spending more than what’s coming in either. As I said don’t know if that’s still the case but Government are not going to help the likes of them when there are thousands of people in all industries facing the sack would be a political disaster for Boris. Football has to look at itself and change.

Kingokings204 · Sep 29, 2020

Paxman II said:
Boris needs to end the nonsensenical need for continued lockdowns and curbing our freedoms as the evidence fails to back it.

and we learn the 10pm curfew was literally made up. Follow the science

Sky Blue Harry H · Sep 29, 2020

Paxman II said:
Boris needs to end the nonsensenical need for continued lockdowns and curbing our freedoms as the evidence fails to back it.

mmmmm

Sky Blue Harry H · Sep 29, 2020

BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Which is over 3 times as much as the fishing industry, and look how important they claim that is...

To be fair, you can't eat a football; and eating the players would be considered barbaric, except in a few small enclaves around the world.

BornSlippySkyBlue · Sep 29, 2020

Sky Blue Harry H said:
To be fair, you can't eat a football; and eating the players would be considered barbaric, except in a few small enclaves around the world.

This is true, purely for context.

fatso · Sep 29, 2020

Sky Blue Harry H said:
To be fair, you can't eat a football; and eating the players would be considered barbaric, except in a few small enclaves around the world.

Leicester?

Sky Blue Harry H · Sep 29, 2020

fatso said:
Leicester?

Eating people from Leicester would ensure a few extra fingers and toes to go round - makes sense to me

AFCCOVENTRY · Sep 29, 2020

Macclesfield Town now kicked out of the national league following their winding up order.

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