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Nick · Jun 14, 2019

Apparently the club have told them to stop selling CCFC stuff.

People on Twitter saying to take the club to court about it. I am not sure they have thought it through.

I assume it's to do with Hummell taking over the club / shop and not being too happy about the rights.

mark82 · Jun 14, 2019

I assume he's using the logos without consent. Not sure you can complain too much about that.

mark82 · Jun 14, 2019

mark82 said:
I assume he's using the logos without consent. Not sure you can complain too much about that.

Although I've seen people are. People will get there knickers in a twist about anything, because it's Sisu.

clint van damme · Jun 14, 2019

I'm surprised it's took this long to be honest.
Shame because he had a nice little business going there. Wonder if he's had any issues with any of the other clubs he does?

rob9872 · Jun 14, 2019

Yeah as I said on there I can understand being blocked from the hummell ones, but don't see a problem with the others .Presumably they believe if people are spending money there then they're not spending it on hummell, but that's simply not true.

rob9872 · Jun 14, 2019

He had use of the logos that was all official as we had to go through that to get to use it too for our badges etc.

Nick · Jun 14, 2019

rob9872 said:
Yeah as I said on there I can understand being blocked from the hummell ones, but don't see a problem with the others .Presumably they believe if people are spending money there then they're not spending it on hummell, but that's simply not true.

Guess whoever runs the club shop now has done a deal for the rights of using the badge etc so aren't happy about others using it.

covcity4life · Jun 14, 2019

wtf is fmc online?

rob9872 · Jun 14, 2019

covcity4life said:
wtf is fmc online?

Where me and all de yooferrs buy our rascal snide city gear innit

Liquid Gold · Jun 14, 2019

Really surprised it took this long, can you imagine Man Utd letting some guy get away with it for ages.

Johnnythespider · Jun 14, 2019

I've had a couple things of him but always thought he would hit trouble at some point, he does a lot of Sheffield Wednesday gear aswell so i don't think he'll be going bankrupt just yet.
Wish I'd got the Glazepta shirt now though.

Skyblueweeman · Jun 14, 2019

So does he sell stuff and pocket money that should be going to the club?

Skybluefaz · Jun 14, 2019

Skyblueweeman said:
So does he sell stuff and pocket money that should be going to the club?

It might be the manufacturers rather than the club. I might be wrong but when I was a kid on holiday in skeggy some lad was always selling hooky Adidas, Fred Perry etc. This is just the modern equivalent

shepardo01 · Jun 14, 2019

mark82 said:
Although I've seen people are. People will get there knickers in a twist about anything, because it's Sisu.

Won't be sisu now will it... but obviously that is what the Facebook frothers will think!!!
Thinking that due to new suppliers being hummel and FMC selling "hummel" replicas, there is an issue. Or as somebody has previously said. Issue with crest and its usage.
SISU.... lol....

block16 · Jun 14, 2019

Is there anything similar out there ? Gutted this has gone although probably saved me good few quid

Covstu · Jun 14, 2019

Just checked the website and he only has about 5 things on there ?

chiefdave · Jun 14, 2019

Amazed he's got away with it for this long. Must have made a few quid given how many people you see on a match day in one of his shirts.

Tommo1993 · Jun 14, 2019

Shame that. Quite liked seeing the retro shirts around. Planned to buy a couple more, but...well... not anymore

speedie87 · Jun 14, 2019

I liked the stuff but never bought anything as looked a bit of a dodgy business , no proper contact details etc....

Fair enough club shutting it down. But is something the club should be looking to do as there is demand for retro gear

Johnnythespider · Jun 14, 2019

speedie87 said:
I liked the stuff but never bought anything as looked a bit of a dodgy business , no proper contact details etc....

Fair enough club shutting it down. But is something the club should be looking to do as there is demand for retro gear

To be honest the 2 items i bought arrived pronto and are a good quality, better than a lot of more professional looking outfits.

BUSA · Jun 14, 2019

Boddy has sent a cease & desist letter asking for remaining ccfc stock to be destroyed and proof of how much money he’s made from ccfc stuff apparently. Shame club couldn’t work with him

sw88 · Jun 14, 2019

Shame that! But I guess if it’s more likely to interfere with official merchandise then the club are entitled to ask that he stop.

Hopefully they will be reasonable about it though as it’s got Retro shirts back in! And the quality was decent.

Let’s hope they concentrate their efforts on the barrow boys when we get our next big fixture, as they need shutting down

Alkhen · Jun 16, 2019

Shame but inevitable.

I brought one shirt from him. Nice quality.

Seeing as we are switching to Hummel then there is definitely a conflict there.

Supprise he got away with the England stuff he had for the world cup.

Do the club still own rights to the old badges? If not I think he could still produce the kits from defunct manufacturers like Ribero

Sky_Blue_Daz · Jun 16, 2019

He was selling the Talbot top on Twitter today but it didn’t have any club logo or badge on it

torchomatic · Jun 16, 2019

Shame - I bought a few tops for myself and my lad - but if he didn't have permission then it's fair enough. Same happened with another seller I used to get band t-shirts from, he stopped because of threats from record companies and band management.

BUSA · Jun 16, 2019

Good bloke and he did things right way by contacting club & supporting family zone with donations to them

ccfcway · Jun 16, 2019

mark82 said:
Although I've seen people are. People will get there knickers in a twist about anything, because it's Sisu.

It’s not Sisu is it, it’s the club

chiefdave · Jun 16, 2019

ccfcway said:
It’s not Sisu is it, it’s the club

Given the timing you have to assume it’s Hummel, not a surprise as he was selling Hummel designs.

mark82 · Jun 16, 2019

ccfcway said:
It’s not Sisu is it, it’s the club

Yeah, pretty much my point.

kapowaz · Jun 16, 2019

I think there’s definitely some legal questions concerning reproducing shirts which feature currently extant sportswear brands like Umbro, Asics and Admiral - irrespective of the club logo situation. However in the case of Ribero that company went bust back in the early 90s (which is why both Norwich and Crystal Palace ended up wearing their existing Ribero kit, but with a new supplier label over the top - Mitre in Norwich’s case, and Nutmeg for Palace). This makes their situation a little more unclear: Norwich have already re-used a version of their Ribero kit pattern as part of a third kit made by Errea, and there’s also an officially-licensed reproduction of the 92-94 kit made by one of the main retro shirt companies (I thought it was Score Draw but apparently it’s someone else).

So just who owns the rights to that pattern? I’m not sure. Maybe it’s the club itself? Funnily enough I tracked down one of the old Ribero club directors a year or so back to ask about licensing the pattern and he told me that they (as in Ribero, apparently reborn) would be producing retro shirts in the next six months, citing Burnley as an example. I don’t think this ever happened though.

Complicating matters even more, it appears that the Chinese knock-off industry (which already makes a very healthy living from reproducing current modern day kits extremely faithfully for a fraction of the cost) has now started making reproductions of famous retro kits. These appear to be extremely accurate, so it makes it a lot harder to identify genuine older kits sold on eBay. I doubt they’d ever focus on Coventry, though, so maybe there’s still space for somebody like FMC provided there’s no trademarks being exploited, and they’re not direct copies of originals. I remember when I shared my fantasy kits on here a lot of people were concerned about the legal angle too, but provided you’re not exactly copying anyone it ought to be fine. Trouble is that means they’re probably less desirable too!

BUSA · Jun 16, 2019

Think the club could have worked with him

Nick · Jun 16, 2019

If somebody was selling fake adidas stuff online they would probably get more than asked to take it down wouldn't they?

Grendel · Jun 16, 2019

BUSA said:
Think the club could have worked with him

Why? It’s an illegal breach of copyright

BUSA · Jun 16, 2019

Plenty of other clubs who let ppl use their copyright to produce stuff - Exeter & Ipswich have deals with the terrace who do similar stuff to fmconline

BUSA · Jun 16, 2019

Nick said:
If somebody was selling fake adidas stuff online they would probably get more than asked to take it down wouldn't they?

Agree but there is at least one company on Facebook selling replica kits for premier league clubs for this season which to me is fair worse than reproducing kits that are 20/30 years old

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