Flying (2 Viewers)

Saddlebrains · May 21, 2024

Off the back of the awful news amd images of the Singapore Airlines turbulence, made me think, how are you with it?

It terrifies me that much that i put it off for 25 year until last month. Flights there and back were sound tbf, but I am that scared i physically shake on take off

To me its unnatural, humans arent meant to be 35000 feet the air, in a metal box going 500MPH that you cannot get out of. Not that you'd want to up there.

So, how are you lot on here? Love flying? Hate it? Fly a lot for work?

Grendel · May 21, 2024

Never bothered me. I used to do long haul flights all the time - have been to East Asia for 2 days and flew back again. The statistics show its very safe and I always found airports more stressful than the flight.

TomRad85 · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Off the back of the awful news amd images of the Singapore Airlines turbulence, made me think, how are you with it?

It terrifies me that much that i put it off for 25 year until last month. Flights there and back were sound tbf, but I am that scared i physically shake on take off

To me its unnatural, humans arent meant to be 35000 feet the air, in a metal box going 500MPH that you cannot get out of. Not that you'd want to up there.

So, how are you lot on here? Love flying? Hate it? Fly a lot for work?

Hate it tbh but I tolerate it because you just have to if you want to get anywhere don't you. Hate take off, can tolerate the rest and shut off, unless there's turbulence where I automatically just assume this is the end

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Saddlebrains · May 21, 2024

TomRad85 said:
Hate it tbh but I tolerate it because you just have to if you want to get anywhere don't you. Hate take off, can tolerate the rest and shut off, unless there's turbulence where I automatically just assume this is the end

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Same as you, hate it with a passion

Saddlebrains · May 21, 2024

Grendel said:
Never bothered me. I used to do long haul flights all the time - have been to East Asia for 2 days and flew back again. The statistics show its very safe and I always found airports more stressful than the flight.

Was that for work or breaks?

JAM See · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Off the back of the awful news amd images of the Singapore Airlines turbulence, made me think, how are you with it?

It terrifies me that much that i put it off for 25 year until last month. Flights there and back were sound tbf, but I am that scared i physically shake on take off

To me its unnatural, humans arent meant to be 35000 feet the air, in a metal box going 500MPH that you cannot get out of. Not that you'd want to up there.

So, how are you lot on here? Love flying? Hate it? Fly a lot for work?

You could use the "unnatural" argument about almost any type of mechanised transport.

Personally, I don't have a problem with flying, or airports, once through security.

I reckon we are in a golden age of cheap transport though. Climate change is going to affect travel immensely in 30 years or so.

Where did you go out of interest?
Was it worth the fear?

fernandopartridge · May 21, 2024

It doesn't really bother me, statistically it's far safer than driving.

That said, I did get an acute onset of horrors once coming back from Alicante hungover.

SIR ERNIE · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Off the back of the awful news amd images of the Singapore Airlines turbulence, made me think, how are you with it?

It terrifies me that much that i put it off for 25 year until last month. Flights there and back were sound tbf, but I am that scared i physically shake on take off

To me its unnatural, humans arent meant to be 35000 feet the air, in a metal box going 500MPH that you cannot get out of. Not that you'd want to up there.

So, how are you lot on here? Love flying? Hate it? Fly a lot for work?

I make 3 or 4 flights a year to the US and a few short haul. I actually enjoy the experience. My wife on the other hand hates it.

Liquid Gold · May 21, 2024

I like the turbulence. Like a free little rollercoaster.

Grendel · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Was that for work or breaks?

Work - I must have been on well over 100 flights if you include internal connections

Sick Boy · May 21, 2024

I've been to Singapore a few times and there's been significant turbulence each time. I used to hate flying but don't mind it as much these days, I just find it uncomfortable and boring.

Grendel · May 21, 2024

Sick Boy said:
I've been to Singapore a few times and there's been significant turbulence each time. I used to hate flying but don't mind it as much these days, I just find it uncomfortable and boring.

That trip is boring. There is always turbulence as you enter the African continent as well. Frankly when you have flown Aeroflot internally in Russia and Mango in Africa you know it’s pretty safe most of the time

Skybluekyle · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Off the back of the awful news amd images of the Singapore Airlines turbulence, made me think, how are you with it?

It terrifies me that much that i put it off for 25 year until last month. Flights there and back were sound tbf, but I am that scared i physically shake on take off

To me its unnatural, humans arent meant to be 35000 feet the air, in a metal box going 500MPH that you cannot get out of. Not that you'd want to up there.

So, how are you lot on here? Love flying? Hate it? Fly a lot for work?

Fear of heights, small spaces, an inner ear dysfunction and good old British Xenophobia has put me off flying, to be honest.

PVA · May 21, 2024

I'm not a fan of takeoff, always makes my stomach flip.

Worst experience though was some awful turbulence on a tiny propeller plane somewhere over remote Swedish forest. Genuinely thought I was going to die, it was horrific.

fernandopartridge · May 21, 2024

Reminds me of Harry Enfield

"You don't wanna be scared of flying, it's crashing you wanna be scared of"

fatso · May 21, 2024

Love take off a day landings, but the bit in-between is boring as hell.

JAM See · May 21, 2024

Skybluekyle said:
Fear of heights, small spaces, an inner ear dysfunction and good old British Xenophobia has put me off flying, to be honest.

fernandopartridge said:
Reminds me of Harry Enfield

"You don't wanna be scared of flying, it's crashing you wanna be scared of"

Steven Wright's is even better.

"I'm not scared of heights, I'm scared of widths"

SBT · May 21, 2024

No problem with flying, although I get weirded out if I think too hard about the vastness of the ocean if I’m doing a transatlantic flight etc

Helicopters on the other hand - I’m never getting in one.

andrew.roberts · May 21, 2024

Unfortunately until someone works out how to time travel or we can get beamed everywhere like in Star Trek, flying is the quickest and safest option. If I can avoid it, I do, hence we recently took a thirty three hour train trip from Bangalore to Delhi whilst on holiday in India rather than a two and a half hour flight.
I remember a domestic flight in Vietnam a few years ago when the majority of fellow passengers were taking down their luggage from the overheard compartments as we were coming in to land (boxes of fish and chicken's feet more than likely).

SIR ERNIE · May 21, 2024

I used to make regular flights between Jersey and Guernsey on Aurigny Islander and Trilander aircraft. Pretty hairy on a windy day.
7 rows of 2 seats if I remember correctly. Sometimes if they would allow a 15th passenger and you'd be sat next to the pilot with strict instructions not to touch anything.
If there were less than 14 you might find yourself sitting next to a couple of crates of tomatoes or strawberries.

Skybluekyle · May 21, 2024

SBT said:
No problem with flying, although I get weirded out if I think too hard about the vastness of the ocean if I’m doing a transatlantic flight etc

Helicopters on the other hand - I’m never getting in one.

How about thinking about the vastness of space instead. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second, yet takes over four years to reach even the closest star to Earth except the sun... did that help?

Saddlebrains · May 21, 2024

SBT said:
No problem with flying, although I get weirded out if I think too hard about the vastness of the ocean if I’m doing a transatlantic flight etc

Helicopters on the other hand - I’m never getting in one.

I have always wondered what would happen if a plane loses engines over the Atlantic? No where to emergency land no?

Saddlebrains · May 21, 2024

JAM See said:
You could use the "unnatural" argument about almost any type of mechanised transport.

Personally, I don't have a problem with flying, or airports, once through security.

I reckon we are in a golden age of cheap transport though. Climate change is going to affect travel immensely in 30 years or so.

Where did you go out of interest?
Was it worth the fear?

Went to Albufeira Portugal. The only reason I even agreed to it was because my partner had booked Swimming with dolphins, knowing that it is something I've wanted to do ever since i was a child, and she knew an experience like that with my children would get me on a plane. And she was right

Although i hated every minute of the flight there and back.

I think id do it again but again would have to be something special. Like New York at Christmas (Home alones are my favourite Xmas film and theres something magical about it)

But i think for a week on Benidorm? I'm not sure. I know it's an irrational fear but it really consumes me at times

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
I have always wondered what would happen if a plane loses engines over the Atlantic? No where to emergency land no?

There's actually more places to land than you think. All aircraft also operate with something called ETOPS - that's essentially your potential diversion options. Every flight is prepared for it and will fly within ranges for potential airports to land in case of emergencies. It's part of the reason there are so little flights between say South Africa and Australia. There is some risk of course, but modern wide-body aircraft can glide for fucking ages and the crew are prepared as fuck.

If you are looking to go to Spain, no worries at all. You'll be fine. For USA - go Virgin Atlantic. The A350 is a dream and the nose camera you can watch is a fantastic addition that all airlines and aircraft should have.

Skybluekyle · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
I have always wondered what would happen if a plane loses engines over the Atlantic? No where to emergency land no?

Hence the emergency dinghies and rafts on airplanes certified for long-haul overwater travel. Dual-engine failures are very rare, as far as I am aware, and airplanes can fly with one engine.

Fortunately, a dual-engine failure usually occurs at a high altitude which gives pilots a quite long time period to troubleshoot and fix the problem.

It was found in the US Airways Flight 1549 incident that dual-engine failures in the Quick Reference Handbook did not account for what would actually be the most dangerous dual-engine failure, at low altitude, such as this incident. I understand it has since been updated to account for this.

Grendel · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
I have always wondered what would happen if a plane loses engines over the Atlantic? No where to emergency land no?

Hardly ever would happen. The only problem could occur is a fuel leak but again it’s very rare

Nick · May 21, 2024

I dont particularly like it but a few beers at the airport tends to sort it.

Saddlebrains · May 21, 2024

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
There's actually more places to land than you think. All aircraft also operate with something called ETOPS - that's essentially your potential diversion options. Every flight is prepared for it and will fly within ranges for potential airports to land in case of emergencies. It's part of the reason there are so little flights between say South Africa and Australia. There is some risk of course, but modern wide-body aircraft can glide for fucking ages and the crew are prepared as fuck.

If you are looking to go to Spain, no worries at all. You'll be fine. For USA - go Virgin Atlantic. The A350 is a dream and the nose camera you can watch is a fantastic addition that all airlines and aircraft should have.

Never knew that, that's quite reassuring. Only part I was aware of was the gliding, they can go hundreds of miles gliding.

Only heard good things about Virgin Atlantic

JAM See · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Went to Albufeira Portugal. The only reason I even agreed to it was because my partner had booked Swimming with dolphins, knowing that it is something I've wanted to do ever since i was a child, and she knew an experience like that with my children would get me on a plane. And she was right

Although i hated every minute of the flight there and back.

I think id do it again but again would have to be something special. Like New York at Christmas (Home alones are my favourite Xmas film and theres something magical about it)

But i think for a week on Benidorm? I'm not sure. I know it's an irrational fear but it really consumes me at times

Fair play to you for getting over the fear to do something you'd probably never do without flying.

I'd urge you to get to NYC if you can afford it.

It's a fantastic city, and there's threads on here with lots of tips.

SBT · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
I have always wondered what would happen if a plane loses engines over the Atlantic? No where to emergency land no?

The slightly bad news is that no-one is going to survive a crash into the Atlantic Ocean. The very good news is that the odds of it happening are infinitesimally tiny.

Flying Fokker · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
Off the back of the awful news amd images of the Singapore Airlines turbulence, made me think, how are you with it?

It terrifies me that much that i put it off for 25 year until last month. Flights there and back were sound tbf, but I am that scared i physically shake on take off

To me its unnatural, humans arent meant to be 35000 feet the air, in a metal box going 500MPH that you cannot get out of. Not that you'd want to up there.

So, how are you lot on here? Love flying? Hate it? Fly a lot for work?

It’s the landing that I don’t like. It feels like the brakes will pull to one side.

Otis · May 21, 2024

I always felt pretty safe on aircraft, that was until I took an internal flight in Russia.

The plane was over 50 years old and everyone was just walking up and down the aisles during the entire flight and descent and you could actually hear the fuselage bolts rattling throughout the journey.

🫣

North York’s Blue · May 21, 2024

Flown loads of times for work and leisure, even had the joys of a prop driven aircraft in Borneo, otherwise I find it boring, mainly because I struggle to sleep even on night flights. Fly to Madrid tomorrow.

LastGarrison · May 21, 2024

Flown a lot through personal travel and a shit load for work (Think I’m on about 54/55 countries) and it doesn’t bother me at all.

As someone said it’s just the boredom and uncomfortableness that’s the ballache. The worst being flying out to Uzbekistan the day after the play off final with a raging hangover and no iPad or anything downloaded only to find out that the inflight entertainment system was down.

I spent the best part of 5 and half hours deleting photos and memes out of all of my WhatsApp groups.

SBT · May 21, 2024

Saddlebrains said:
I have always wondered what would happen if a plane loses engines over the Atlantic? No where to emergency land no?

Also worth mentioning that this precise scenario did happen with a flight from Toronto to Lisbon, which lost both engines because of a fuel leak. They managed to land the plane on an airbase in the Azores. Happened about three weeks before 9/11.

Air Transat Flight 236 - Wikipedia

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