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Didge76 · Nov 8, 2013

Really missed him tonight, Barton is soooo poor. If it weren't for smurf we would of been out of the game

shmmeee · Nov 8, 2013

Got to give AFC credit, played us well, wanted it more.

Didge76 · Nov 8, 2013

Agreed shimee we have not been the best but hey a wins a win. Gouldy bless his soul is biggin us up big style. Fair play. PUSB

fernandopartridge · Nov 8, 2013

Barton much better second half in fairness. Their goal was from a mistake.

Skyblue4u · Nov 8, 2013

Barton should be prosecuted under the trade description act for posing as a professional football player

SkyBlueBlood · Nov 8, 2013

Barton is good on the ball, but not high intensity enough for our style.

olderskyblue · Nov 8, 2013

Thomas gave the ball away more, as did j Clarke, yet you pick Barton out. Strange.

kg82 · Nov 8, 2013

olderskyblue said:
Thomas gave the ball away more, as did j Clarke, yet you pick Barton out. Strange.

Some players get that. Barton was in no way out worst performer tonight but hey ho.

junglej13 · Nov 8, 2013

SkyBlueBlood said:
Barton is good on the ball, but not high intensity enough for our style.

Said exactly the same. He has no aggression in his game. If he did have he'd be a multi million pound player. Unfortunately without it he is pretty average and I don't think will ever fulfil his potential.

stupot07 · Nov 8, 2013

kg82 said:
Some players get that. Barton was in no way out worst performer tonight but hey ho.

Nope, that was probably moussa assist aside.

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kg82 · Nov 8, 2013

stupot07 said:
Nope, that was probably moussa assist aside.

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Him, Adams or Leon for me (not that Clarke had a bad game, just he couldn't get into it).

stupot07 · Nov 8, 2013

kg82 said:
Him, Adams or Leon for me (not that Clarke had a bad game, just he couldn't get into it).

Yeah, Wilson was pretty poor too. Feel sorry for Adams as moussa left him totally exposed defensively.

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mark82 · Nov 8, 2013

That's the FA cup for you. It's why we all love it.

We're in to the second round. That's all that matters.

covcity4life · Nov 8, 2013

yeh adams,moussa & clarke and wilson were all worse than barton today

its a shame there always has to be a boo boys target with this club.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 8, 2013

Barton's a player who can play well in a side that is playing well, when the team is playing with confidence he can show some wonderful touches and great skill. However he isn't a player I would back when things are going badly and we aren't playing well.

His attempt at heading a football last season is still one of my top funny moments in football.

georgehudson · Nov 8, 2013

i trust SP to assemble a team / squad to challenge or achieve,
this however is pertinent to our owners aims,
let us all therefore accept that whoever the owners are,
'put up or shut up'
PUSB

theferret · Nov 8, 2013

covcity4life said:
yeh adams,moussa & clarke and wilson were all worse than barton today

its a shame there always has to be a boo boys target with this club.

Nobody booed him. Let's not get hysterical. People are simply making the point (post-match) that for all his ability, he is too lightweight and is physically not able to press the ball high up the pitch which is key to how we play.

Wilson was hardly going to get stick for his only bad game in months. Barton flatters to deceive every time he plays, be he did OK second half.

covcity4life · Nov 8, 2013

sorry, i went too far wit boo boy comment agreed

i jsut mean it was below par performance alla round bar murphy and baker

no need to single anyone out too bad.

Stafford_SkBlue · Nov 9, 2013

We should not judge Barton on one game, it is difficult taking over in a successful side especially replacing an influential player as Fleck.
I think Barton is a neat player with many attributes, but does require more games under his belt.
Presently he's just a squad player and is not a first choice for the starting 11, so he fills that role when injuries / suspensions requires.
What more can we ask for.

stupot07 · Nov 9, 2013

Stafford_SkBlue said:
We should not judge Barton on one game, it is difficult taking over in a successful side especially replacing an influential player as Fleck.
I think Barton is a neat player with many attributes, but does require more games under his belt.
Presently he's just a squad player and is not a first choice for the starting 11, so he fills that role when injuries / suspensions requires.
What more can we ask for.

A performance that says "I don't want to be just a squad player" and gives the manager difficult decisions when the player returns from injury/suspensions would be nice.

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WillieStanley · Nov 9, 2013

Didge76 said:
Agreed shimee we have not been the best but hey a wins a win. Gouldy bless his soul is biggin us up big style. Fair play. PUSB

The Gould highlight this evening was when he was comparing us to other teams and couldn't remember whether he was talking about Barca or Brazil!!

covboy9 · Nov 9, 2013

I think moussa should play in the middle when fleck or Thomas are out, Christie or Wilson could play wide, Phillips at full back. Christie needs to shift a bit of weight!

stupot07 · Nov 9, 2013

covboy9 said:
I think moussa should play in the middle when fleck or Thomas are out, Christie or Wilson could play wide, Phillips at full back. Christie needs to shift a bit of weight!

Disagree, why would you effectively make 3 changes to the team, when only 1 is required. You would also be playing 2-3 players out of position to do this.

WillieStanley · Nov 9, 2013

stupot07 said:
Disagree, why would you effectively make 3 changes to the team, when only 1 is required. You would also be playing 2-3 players out of position to do this.

Because his name is Chris Coleman :claping hands:

87mint · Nov 9, 2013

Barton is in a lose lose situation. He doesn't start many games and when he does it means one or other of our best and most liked players (fleck/Thomas) are out of the side so the fans are already a bit circumspect.

It is obvious that he is nervous and - as anyone would - to combat this he tries to play safe quite often. (And he is by no means alone in being guilty of that in our side). I heard some guy last night repeatedly laying into him for this and then when he tried something riskier and it didn't come off he got even more abuse.

I really don't see the point in destroying one of our own player's confidence when we will definitely need him as back up during the course of this season. Can't we use our unbelievable form as an excuse to cut Barton some slack!?!

Pusb

kg82 · Nov 9, 2013

covboy9 said:
I think moussa should play in the middle when fleck or Thomas are out, Christie or Wilson could play wide, Phillips at full back. Christie needs to shift a bit of weight!

Are you joking about the weight?

covboy9 · Nov 9, 2013

kg82 said:
Are you joking about the weight?

no

covboy9 · Nov 9, 2013

stupot07 said:
Disagree, why would you effectively make 3 changes to the team, when only 1 is required. You would also be playing 2-3 players out of position to do this.

moussa naturally a centre mid, Christie ive akways thought would be a better winger, no ones really out of position. its a shame but barton gets swallowed up in games

ajsccfc · Nov 9, 2013

Christie and Wilson in particular are excelling where they are, that's very much taking people out of position surely.

kg82 · Nov 9, 2013

covboy9 said:
no

Well sorry, but that's ridiculous. Not as if he played crap yesterday either. He was our best player 1st half after however many weeks out injured.

covboy9 · Nov 9, 2013

kg82 said:
Well sorry, but that's ridiculous. Not as if he played crap yesterday either. He was our best player 1st half after however many weeks out injured.

I didn't say he played crap, are you his mum?

stupot07 · Nov 9, 2013

covboy9 said:
moussa naturally a centre mid, Christie ive akways thought would be a better winger, no ones really out of position. its a shame but barton gets swallowed up in games

I wouldn't say moussa is a natural centre mid especially in a 2 in a 442, and christie would be out of position - he's a right back not a winger, so you would be playing players out of position.

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kg82 · Nov 9, 2013

covboy9 said:
I didn't say he played crap, are you his mum?

Brilliant response. Proper funny laaaad

ExmouthNeil · Nov 9, 2013

Anyway everyone..........

We didn't play well(fair play to Wimbledon) few of our lads didn't get into the game as much as they normally do BUT in years gone by we'd have lost that match so it just show's how far we've come to get a result when we've not played well...

See you all in the next round...:wave:

fernandopartridge · Nov 9, 2013

Wimbledon played well, they upset our rhythm. Once we got going in the second half we were comfortable. Barton improved as the game went on.

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