But people on here said he was....
as i rightly remember wise only did any good as manager was when he had gus poyet helping him !!!I wanna see wise in that dugout,won't happen though will it.
Yeah let's dismiss Shaw without a single thought because we all know he'll be crap at the job don't we even though we have never seen him in the job!!
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
Don't sound to me as though you don't want him Otis
"we need a winner" it cant be shaw then he played 317 times for coventry!!!,....... weve tried experience managers with promotions on their CV (dowie,adams,reid ,boothroyd) and weve tried rookies like (butcher,mcallister,nilsson,strachan,thorn) personally id like to see a young hungry manager like karl robinson,paul tisdale,uwe rosler,dean holdsworth :thinking about:
Because he might be great, but he might not. If the wrong man is put in charge the it will put us back even further. It's not worth the risk for me, which is why i believe we need experience.
How do you come to that conclusion?
I am just saying it is wrong to dismiss anyone when we have no idea how they would do.
Funny isn't it that when we buy a player and people on criticise the signing posters are all over them like a rash and saying how can you judge before he has even kicked a ball for us.
Well isn't this the same? Why is it different for a manager where we have no idea how he will do?
I have no idea about Shaw or Carsley and no opinion on them at all. I have no idea how they would do and nor do any of us.
Noticed Torch said "No" immediately when Shaw was mentioned though.
Tut tut.
What happened to giving anyone a chance?
Nowhere have I said I would want Shaw as manager.
Maybe we should of kept our better defenders instead of flogging them for a quick buck or saving a few quid in wages.
How do you come to that conclusion?
I am just saying it is wrong to dismiss anyone when we have no idea how they would do.
Funny isn't it that when we buy a player and people on criticise the signing posters are all over them like a rash and saying how can you judge before he has even kicked a ball for us.
Well isn't this the same? Why is it different for a manager where we have no idea how he will do?
I have no idea about Shaw or Carsley and no opinion on them at all. I have no idea how they would do and nor do any of us.
Noticed Torch said "No" immediately when Shaw was mentioned though.
Tut tut.
What happened to giving anyone a chance?
Nowhere have I said I would want Shaw as manager.
We can't F*ck about here Otis. We have a squad good enough for automatic promotion - but we've not had tactics to match. Tactical expertise tends to come with years of experience.
Richard Shaw may be awful, may be good - but we can't take that risk. We need someone proven and safe. Ideally someone who knows League 1 and what we'll come up against.
The fact is the last managers to do any good for this club were George and John. WGS did OK till we sold Keane and MacCalaster, who else has impressed over the last 30 years. You have to discount Black, as we was not here long enough, Neilsen did OK dito Black. Otherwise all the others have failleds. Its going to tough, no one manager can guarantee success, you need a bit of luck along the way, which we has a club never seem to have.
We can't F*ck about here Otis. We have a squad good enough for automatic promotion - but we've not had tactics to match. Tactical expertise tends to come with years of experience.
Richard Shaw may be awful, may be good - but we can't take that risk. We need someone proven and safe. Ideally someone who knows League 1 and what we'll come up against.
We can't F*ck about here Otis.Z We have a squad good enough for automatic promotion - but we've not had tactics to match. Tactical expertise tends to come with years of experience.
Richard Shaw may be awful, may be good - but we can't take that risk. We need someone proven and safe. Ideally someone who knows League 1 and what we'll come up against.
My point exactly. We can't afford the risk of giving someone a go to see if they are good enough. We need an experienced man to get us up the league.
No we haven't,
Some people were more than happy to up until yesterday....
personally id like to see a young hungry manager like karl robinson,paul tisdale,uwe rosler,dean holdsworth :thinking about:
Lesley Nielsen? That would explain a few things.
Comfy on the fence ?
No we haven't,
There's no guarantee an 'experienced' manager would do a great job here, certainly no more so than shaw or carsley. I agree we can't fuck about but I don't see any harm
In seeing how the next 2-3 matches go to see how the players react.
There's been plenty of inexperienced mangers who have come in and done a great job (and also many that have done shite). We only have to look at the Eric black and Peter Reid scenario (or terry butcher as the opposite).
There's also no reason why an inexperienced manager can't bring in an experienced coach or assistant.
Without enough goals in the team I agree,We have Callum Ball instead of James Collins and a misfiring Cody,Combine that with Two Semi fit midfielders Due to lack of pre-season ,two missing right-backs and its easy to comprehend why we've lost leads in these games.
Because he might be great, but he might not. If the wrong man is put in charge the it will put us back even further. It's not worth the risk for me, which is why i believe we need experience.
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