Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Fisher lies (3 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Sky Blue Kid
  • Start date Sep 10, 2013
Forums New posts
Prev
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Next
First Prev 2 of 5 Next Last
R

RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #36
sky blue john said:
The only thing the Sisu thread de-railers have not mentioned is its all the councils fault !!!!
Click to expand...

Just a shame that there are still certain posters who assume everything and get everything totally wrong.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #37
njdlawyer said:
True but even the most objective and even-handed of observers could not conclude anything but that Fisher has been more than a little cavalier about the truth surrounding matters prior to his tenure but about which he must have known all the relevant facts - unless he is a complete incompetent...
Click to expand...

I have no problem with anybody calling Fisher incompetent or cavalier with the truth, think the only thing he didn't lie about was that we wouldn't play at The Ricoh, that one surprised me!

It's the free pass given to others as if little innocents in a big mans World that gets to me.

Especially as they are also lauded as super succesful businessmen and financial wizards at the same time.
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #38
Sky Blue Kid said:
Fisher Lies
Click to expand...

Night follows day...
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #39
RoboCCFC90 said:
Just a shame that there are still certain posters who assume everything and get everything totally wrong.
Click to expand...

I think it's brilliant. It gives them a break from standing on corners shouting at buses and the rest of us something to laugh at.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #40
sky blue john said:
The only thing the Sisu thread de-railers have not mentioned is its all the councils fault !!!!
Click to expand...

Are another one for bullshit bingo - sisu thread derailers.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #41
lordsummerisle said:
"Deep throat" has so far stitched up Ranson, Hoffman and Elliott with the closing the Academy down bombshell, and now the fact that not making any money on player transfers when those three on the board as well.

Sure an unintended consequence, hoping(with some justification) that it wouldn't get picked up because it doesn't fit the current current worldview.
Click to expand...

Lord, could you just refresh my memory as to when "Ranson, Hoffman and Elliot" closed down the acadamy?

Or were you hoping that the fact that it didn't actually close might not "get picked up because it doesn't fit your worldview"?
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #42
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Lord, could you just refresh my memory as to when "Ranson, Hoffman and Elliot" closed down the acadamy?

Or were you hoping that the fact that it didn't actually close might not "get picked up because it doesn't fit your worldview"?
Click to expand...

They were maybe helpless in the face of Onye wanting to keep it open.

Sisu bastards must have overruled them, the poor helpless mites.


It can't be denied that they seriously discussed closing the Academy down, to save costs, and due to alleged vandalism and thefts at the Higgs Centre.

Even to the stage that Mr Coventry himself suggestung that he stage manage it to the fans, obviously because he thought that in the eyes of most fans he could do no wrong.

Seems he is still correct in that assumption.
 
Last edited: Sep 10, 2013

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #43
lordsummerisle said:
They were maybe helpless in the face of Onye wanting to keep it open.

Sisu bastards must have overruled them, the poor helpless mites.


It can't be denied that they seriously discussed closing the Academy down, to save costs, and due to alleged vandalism and thefts at the Higgs Centre.

Even to the stage that Mr Coventry himself suggestung that he stage manage it to the fans, obviously because he thought that in the eyes of most fans he could do no wrong.

Seems he is still correct in that assumption.
Click to expand...

You can obviously read a lot into a set of minutes.

As you suggest, perhaps we all fit them into our "worldviews".

All I know is that it was proposed - we know not by who - and it didn't happen.

But I guess that's plenty for a "guilty" verdict........
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #44
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
You can obviously read a lot into a set of minutes.

As you suggest, perhaps we all fit them into our "worldviews".

All I know is that it was proposed - we know not by who - and it didn't happen.

But I guess that's plenty for a "guilty" verdict........
Click to expand...

On here it takes an awful lot less than that to go straight to the public lynching to be honest..
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #45
lordsummerisle said:
On here it takes an awful lot less than that to go straight to the public lynching to be honest..
Click to expand...

I'd struggle to disagree with you on that one
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #46
lordsummerisle said:
On here it takes an awful lot less than that to go straight to the public lynching to be honest..
Click to expand...

Ah the brave noble minority, chased by the angry moronic mob.
 
G

georgehudson

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #47
the original thread, being fisher lies, the only apposite i would draw is the mantra of Ronseal,
therefore
'Sisu, it doesn't do what it says on the tin'
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #48
georgehudson said:
the original thread, being fisher lies, the only apposite i would draw is the mantra of Ronseal,
therefore
'Sisu, it doesn't do what it says on the tin'
Click to expand...

"Colours may appear different to that on the sample card"... but I never expected Glossy sky blue to turn shitty brown so soon after application- maybe we got the undercoat wrong?
 
G

Godiva

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #49
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
You can obviously read a lot into a set of minutes.

As you suggest, perhaps we all fit them into our "worldviews".

All I know is that it was proposed - we know not by who - and it didn't happen.

But I guess that's plenty for a "guilty" verdict........
Click to expand...


There may be more than two options, but as I see it (in my worldwiev)

Either
The proposal was made by Ranson/Hoffman/Elliott and veto'ed by Igwe - in which case sisu are not that daft and Ranson/Hoffamn/Elliott surely are
Or
The proposal was made by Igwe and voted down by Ranson/Hoffman/Elliot - in which case there were no veto option available to sisu

I 'vote' for the second option.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #50
Godiva said:
There may be more than two options, but as I see it (in my worldwiev)

Either
The proposal was made by Ranson/Hoffman/Elliott and veto'ed by Igwe - in which case sisu are not that daft and Ranson/Hoffamn/Elliott surely are
Or
The proposal was made by Igwe and voted down by Ranson/Hoffman/Elliot - in which case there were no veto option available to sisu

I 'vote' for the second option.
Click to expand...

Or perhaps he was even persuaded that it would be a disastrous move.

Even SISU have to get the odd decision right......
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #51
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Even SISU have to get the odd decision right......
Click to expand...

Wild speculation....should not be allowed....
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #52
Godiva said:
There may be more than two options, but as I see it (in my worldwiev)

Either
The proposal was made by Ranson/Hoffman/Elliott and veto'ed by Igwe - in which case sisu are not that daft and Ranson/Hoffamn/Elliott surely are
Or
The proposal was made by Igwe and voted down by Ranson/Hoffman/Elliot - in which case there were no veto option available to sisu

I 'vote' for the second option.[/QUOTE

It he way that the PR game has been played the last few years, if they had "saved" the Academy then I'm sure a Coventry Telegraph headline sling the lines of " We saved the Academy from SISU", would have appeared by now.

The Academy appears to be the only thing that all Coventry fans agree is a good thing.

Some spin in that direction could only go down well.
Click to expand...
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #53
Samo said:
Ah the brave noble minority, chased by the angry moronic mob.
Click to expand...

What the fuck?

Dropped your pitchfork or something?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #54
lordsummerisle said:
It can't be denied that they seriously discussed closing the Academy down, to save costs, and due to alleged vandalism and thefts at the Higgs Centre.
Click to expand...

Can we stick to what we know is the truth for once instead of taking a thread off track that you don't like?

So you want to talk about the academy? SISU pulled out of the premises that Higg's had built for them once the plan was together to leave the Ricoh and Coventry. Nothing had been paid for. The pitches hadn't been looked after. There was an agreement that SISU, LTD, Holdings or whatever they were calling themselves at the time to look after all of the fitness equipment and keep it serviced. When they left just about all the equipment was found to not be working.

So SISU/LTD/Holdings or whatever they were called at the time went to the University to use their place. For once the FL told them they were wrong. Everywhere was not up to the standards needed if they wanted to keep getting cash towards the academy. So someone has gone back with their tail between their legs. Not only do they need everything Higgs have done for them to keep the money, but because they have fucked up on their sums for going to Northampton they need more youth players to come through that will be on low wages and also won't count towards FPP.

BTW none of this is alleged.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #55
lordsummerisle said:
Godiva said:
There may be more than two options, but as I see it (in my worldwiev)

Either
The proposal was made by Ranson/Hoffman/Elliott and veto'ed by Igwe - in which case sisu are not that daft and Ranson/Hoffamn/Elliott surely are
Or
The proposal was made by Igwe and voted down by Ranson/Hoffman/Elliot - in which case there were no veto option available to sisu

I 'vote' for the second option.[/QUOTE

It he way that the PR game has been played the last few years, if they had "saved" the Academy then I'm sure a Coventry Telegraph headline sling the lines of " We saved the Academy from SISU", would have appeared by now.

The Academy appears to be the only thing that all Coventry fans agree is a good thing.

Some spin in that direction could only go down well.
Click to expand...

Or to use your logic - bearing in mind the PR war that TF waged against ACL for example - I'm sure that if SISU had voted down a GH /JE proposal to close the academy, it might have got a couple of hundred mentions by now.

Or is your logic only allowed to work in one direction?
Click to expand...
 
G

Godiva

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #56
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
lordsummerisle said:
Or to use your logic - bearing in mind the PR war that TF waged against ACL for example - I'm sure that if SISU had voted down a GH /JE proposal to close the academy, it might have got a couple of hundred mentions by now.

Or is your logic only allowed to work in one direction?
Click to expand...

No, I agree. I also stated my money was on option 2 - That it was proposed by Igwe and voted down by Ranson/Hoffman/Elliott. My point is that it kind of debuff Hoffman's claim that the trinity had no power - that sisu through Igwe controlled the show.
Click to expand...
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #57
lordsummerisle said:
What the fuck?

Dropped your pitchfork or something?
Click to expand...

Some on here will say almost anything to paint themselves as our intelligentsia, the informed, thoughtful few who buck the trend. But when challenged... they are victims of abuse!
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #58
Astute said:
Can we stick to what we know is the truth for once instead of taking a thread off track that you don't like?

So you want to talk about the academy? SISU pulled out of the premises that Higg's had built for them once the plan was together to leave the Ricoh and Coventry. Nothing had been paid for. The pitches hadn't been looked after. There was an agreement that SISU, LTD, Holdings or whatever they were calling themselves at the time to look after all of the fitness equipment and keep it serviced. When they left just about all the equipment was found to not be working.

So SISU/LTD/Holdings or whatever they were called at the time went to the University to use their place. For once the FL told them they were wrong. Everywhere was not up to the standards needed if they wanted to keep getting cash towards the academy. So someone has gone back with their tail between their legs. Not only do they need everything Higgs have done for them to keep the money, but because they have fucked up on their sums for going to Northampton they need more youth players to come through that will be on low wages and also won't count towards FPP.

BTW none of this is alleged.
Click to expand...

Are you suggesting that all of the documents including board minutes are forgeries??

You must be some sort of Sisu plant alleging that.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #59
Samo said:
Some on here will say almost anything to paint themselves as our intelligentsia, the informed, thoughtful few who buck the trend. But when challenged... they are victims of abuse!
Click to expand...

Don't mind being abused myself, more than able to give and take with that!
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #60
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
lordsummerisle said:
Or to use your logic - bearing in mind the PR war that TF waged against ACL for example - I'm sure that if SISU had voted down a GH /JE proposal to close the academy, it might have got a couple of hundred mentions by now.

Or is your logic only allowed to work in one direction?
Click to expand...

First you accuse me of liking Prog Rock, now One Direction?

We're going to fall out someday!
Click to expand...
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #61
Godiva said:
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
No, I agree. I also stated my money was on option 2 - That it was proposed by Igwe and voted down by Ranson/Hoffman/Elliott. My point is that it kind of debuff Hoffman's claim that the trinity had no power - that sisu through Igwe controlled the show.
Click to expand...

We are all speculating, but as I noted earlier Igwe having the deciding vote is not incompatible with him occasionally being open to persuasion.
Click to expand...
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #62
lordsummerisle said:
Are you suggesting that all of the documents including board minutes are forgeries??

You must be some sort of Sisu plant alleging that.
Click to expand...

Show us the proof where you say I am wrong then.

Higgs have shown that they want what is best for our club still after everything that has happened. Yet you know better.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #63
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
lordsummerisle said:
Or to use your logic - bearing in mind the PR war that TF waged against ACL for example - I'm sure that if SISU had voted down a GH /JE proposal to close the academy, it might have got a couple of hundred mentions by now.

Or is your logic only allowed to work in one direction?
Click to expand...

As PR battles go, it has to be said that Sisu have been on the receiving end of a few batterings.

They've wasted an awful lot of money over the years, but whoever their PR firm is has to be the biggest one.

They probably do it for Rolf Harris, Michael Le Vell and Stuart Hall, after being recommeded to them before he died by Jimmy Saville.

Assad is thinking of dropping them, as his crop spraying to help the harvest wasn't spun out as well as he'd have liked.
Click to expand...
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #64
lordsummerisle said:
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
First you accuse me of liking Prog Rock, now One Direction?

We're going to fall out someday!
Click to expand...

No, I couldn't bear the heartache
Click to expand...
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #65
lordsummerisle said:
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
First you accuse me of liking Prog Rock, now One Direction?

We're going to fall out someday!
Click to expand...

You remind me of someone from Fraggle Rock. Just wish I knew his name :thinking about:
Click to expand...
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #66
lordsummerisle said:
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
As PR battles go, it has to be said that Sisu have been on the receiving end of a few batterings.

They've wasted an awful lot of money over the years, but whoever their PR firm is has to be the biggest one.

They probably do it for Rolf Harris, Michael Le Vell and Stuart Hall, after being recommeded to them before he died by Jimmy Saville.

Assad is thinking of dropping them, as his crop spraying to help the harvest wasn't spun out as well as he'd have liked.
Click to expand...

At least they have yourself, Torc and a few others for free :slap:
Click to expand...
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #67
What's this thread about again?
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #68
Astute said:
lordsummerisle said:
At least they have yourself, Torc and a few others for free :slap:
Click to expand...

I've never supported them

You have.
Click to expand...
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #69
lordsummerisle said:
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
As PR battles go, it has to be said that Sisu have been on the receiving end of a few batterings.

They've wasted an awful lot of money over the years, but whoever their PR firm is has to be the biggest one.

They probably do it for Rolf Harris, Michael Le Vell and Stuart Hall, after being recommeded to them before he died by Jimmy Saville.

Assad is thinking of dropping them, as his crop spraying to help the harvest wasn't spun out as well as he'd have liked.
Click to expand...

If I could "like" this post on the iPad I would.
Click to expand...
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2013
  • #70
lordsummerisle said:
Astute said:
I've never supported them

You have.
Click to expand...

So I can't read now?
Click to expand...
 
Prev
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Next
First Prev 2 of 5 Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 4 (members: 0, guests: 4)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?