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  • Start date Sep 29, 2017
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Captain Dart

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #1
Well good for me as I own no debt, interest rates are going up, the BoE have been warning everyone. Carney expects rate rise in 'near term'
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #2
I have savings and a mortgage coming to the end of a fixed term, not sure if I welcome this news or not.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #3
I have a mortgage and still not working so not good for me. The only good thing is we might not see interviews with whinging baby boomers on the tele complaining that their 300K in the bank isn't earning any interest.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #4
Had better fix mine asap
 
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xcraigx

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #5
Has he not been saying this on and off for a couple of years or more? I'm on a tracker deal so have been loving it the past 8 years or so but I have started keeping an eye out for a fixed rate deal just in case the inevitable happens. Hopefully it won't be for the next 16 years though...
 

Otis

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #6
I gambled and jumped ahead, signing up for a five year fixed rate mortgage. Not going to hit us now until 2022, fingers crossed.
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #7
xcraigx said:
Has he not been saying this on and off for a couple of years or more? I'm on a tracker deal so have been loving it the past 8 years or so but I have started keeping an eye out for a fixed rate deal just in case the inevitable happens. Hopefully it won't be for the next 16 years though...
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Since 2014... and each time the £ has seen a jump in value... The impact is lessening on each occasion though.
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #8
Captain Dart said:
Well good for me as I own no debt, interest rates are going up, the BoE have been warning everyone. Carney expects rate rise in 'near term'
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Not sure it counts as good news really, as the low rates have kept the economy spluttering along, probably prolonged the agony for some... Jeez its like supporting us!
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #9
i guess my 0.44% mortgage will slowly increase

I remember the good old days of 12% interest rates, and the first fix i ever did was 7.69%
Proper interest rates like those would make things interesting
 
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skybluegod

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #10
Probably neither good nor bad news for me. Have yet to buy my house, so when I do, while the interest rate might be higher, house prices will also probably fall a bit. So life as usual for me.
 

Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #11
Mortgage is fixed for the next 18 months thankfully
 
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covmark

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #12
Yeah I took out a 5 year fixed last April so got 3 1/2 years left. Glad now I took the 5 year and not the 2 year.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #13
Fixed till March 2019 but do wish we had fixed longer.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #14
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Fixed till March 2019 but do wish we had fixed longer.
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We very nearly did the same. Choice of two years, three years, or five years and we nearly plumped for three, but I said 'let's go for five and secure it.' It was only a few pounds difference per month.

By the time the five years are up we will only owe about another £350,000.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #15
If it does goes up which is not certain it won't be by much maybe back to 0.5% or so. Hardly a massive increase and much to worry about in my opinion.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #16
Kingokings204 said:
If it does goes up which is not certain it won't be by much maybe back to 0.5% or so. Hardly a massive increase and much to worry about in my opinion.
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No, but Grendel may have to let one or two servants go.
 
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olderskyblue

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #17
Otis said:
No, but Grendel may have to let one or two servants go.
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I think he might hire a couple more if the rates rise....
 

Otis

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #18
olderskyblue said:
I think he might hire a couple more if the rates rise....
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Was just thinking in terms of the rise in his £1.75m mansion mortgage.

Payments would surely go up to about 30 grand a month.
 

olderskyblue

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  • Sep 29, 2017
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Otis said:
Was just thinking in terms of the rise in his £1.75m mansion mortgage.

Payments would surely go up to about 30 grand a month.
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Mortgage? he probably bought it with cash...
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #20
Otis said:
Was just thinking in terms of the rise in his £1.75m mansion mortgage.

Payments would surely go up to about 30 grand a month.
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I have a small mortgage - can't say I know the rate - i would pay off it rates rise much.

Could do with an interest rate rise as I've settled my pension and could live on 3% comfortably.
 
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hill83

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #21
Otis said:
I gambled and jumped ahead, signing up for a five year fixed rate mortgage. Not going to hit us now until 2022, fingers crossed.
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Same
 
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olderskyblue

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #22
Grendel said:
I have a small mortgage - can't say I know the rate - i would pay off it rates rise much.

Could do with an interest rate rise as I've settled my pension and could live on 3% comfortably.
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Oh for the days when it was 15% eh?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #23
Lucky enough to only owe a few hundred quid on a 0% credit card. We pay a grand for a 1 bed flat so no need chance soon of a mortgage!
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #24
olderskyblue said:
Oh for the days when it was 15% eh?
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Signed for my first house on that - fun baby boomer times.
 

hill83

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  • Sep 29, 2017
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Grendel said:
Signed for my first house on that - fun baby boomer times.
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How much was the house though? And how much did you have to borrow X your salary?
It's all relative.

Edit: Genuine questions by the way, I'm not getting into an argument about mortgage rates.
 
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mrtrench

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #26
Nick said:
Had better fix mine asap
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Fixed rates are calculated using the market's expectations of where rates will go in the future, which is only loosely connected to the current BoE rate. I happened to have fixed for 2 years with Barclays 2 months ago. Just checked and their rate has already gone up 0.1% since then.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #27
hill83 said:
How much was the house though? And how much did you have to borrow X your salary?
It's all relative.

Edit: Genuine questions by the way, I'm not getting into an argument about mortgage rates.
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I think it was around £35,000 and on a salary of around £13,000? It was expensive around £400 a month
 

hill83

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  • Sep 29, 2017
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Grendel said:
I think it was around £35,000 and on a salary of around £13,000? It was expensive around £400 a month
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Decent whack a month on that salary.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 29, 2017
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In the end people complaining about unaffordable housing miss the point that obviously there is a link with interest rates and house prices as it influenced demand against supply.

It obviously will not but if rates escalated to 15% many houses would become repossessed and market forces would drive prices down.

The converse has happened for years. Below 5% was always historically low and prices escalated as monthly fees became much cheaper.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 29, 2017
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hill83 said:
Decent whack a month on that salary.
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Well yes it was. I was on my own at the time and I don't know what the tax structure was but obviously there was little to spend at all.

Rates did of course then start to fall. So in that sense it was a good time to buy as the mortgage payments declined and house value rose.

In truth I think cripplingly high rates and virtually zero rates are both unhelpful.
 
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  • Sep 29, 2017
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Grendel said:
It obviously will not but if rates escalated to 15% many houses would become repossessed and market forces would drive prices down.
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It would. The brave man would sell now and rent for a year or two... with the potential for that to go horribly wrong.

But the point is that the 3.5* salary multiplier makes housing unobtainable to many... whether they end up paying more in rent than their mortgage would be, or not.

In many ways, higher interest rates and lower prices would make home ownership a lot more attainable for many.

Grendel said:
In truth I think cripplingly high rates and virtually zero rates are both unhelpful.
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Whilst actually agreeing with this!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 29, 2017
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Grendel said:
I think it was around £35,000 and on a salary of around £13,000? It was expensive around £400 a month
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We had an endowment!
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #33
clint van damme said:
We had an endowment!
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I did I cashed in to pay school fees in the end
 

Otis

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  • Sep 29, 2017
  • #34
Grendel said:
I did I cashed in to pay school fees in the end
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You've left school now though right?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 30, 2017
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Grendel said:
I did I cashed in to pay school fees in the end
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you mean you never held on till the end for the huge cash surplus?!

We had to literally start again.
 
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