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lewys33

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  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #71
Nick said:
People have been saying all sides are at fault for months even going back to the SISU out protests but if you don't blame just SISU you are an apologist. I like the fact that this is now being acknowledged.

Nobody is being slated anywhere?
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So implying that the lack of investment is because we need to cover the costs of sixfields isn't being an apologist? Unbelievable .......
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #72
Grendel said:
It's an obvious consequence of that action.
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So we should slap our own bottoms for being very naughty boys and girls? Every action has a reaction. So does that mean fault lies with the reaction?
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #73
Nick said:
So you don't seen the irony about campaigning to not give SISU any money and then moaning about them not spending any money on the team?
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Who is campaigning to not give sisu any money??
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #74
lewys33 said:
No I agree. The fans aren't turning up at sixfields, so it is definitely our fault that there is a lack of investment in the team. Silly me.
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That's a petulant way of putting it taken everything into account, my point being though we are not in a place where we can go and splash out on bringing in players for many reasons not just the one you chose to side with.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #75
lewys33 said:
Who is campaigning to not give sisu any money??
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Not One Penny More?

I will wait for the council version of these if everybody has a share of the blame too?



 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #76
RoboCCFC90 said:
That's a petulant way of putting it taken everything into account, my point being though we are not in a place where we can go and splash out on bringing in players for many reasons not just the one you chose to side with.
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other reasons being?
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #77
Nick said:
Not One Penny More?

I will wait for the council version of these if everybody has a share of the blame too?



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were those created by KCIC?! nope ..........

please feel free to create an ann lucas one, that will be shared as well!
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #78
All you ever do Nick is make snide and manipulative comments about Michael and KCIC. Implying is just as bad as saying in my opinion.

Have you sent all these people emails about the petition like we spoke about?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #79
lewys33 said:
All you ever do Nick is make snide and manipulative comments about Michael and KCIC. Implying is just as bad as saying in my opinion.

Have you sent all these people emails about the petition like we spoke about?
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What have I said that is snide or manipulative?

Nope, still not had any replies from Michael to the messages I sent....
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #80
lewys33 said:
other reasons being?
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FFP
Sponsorship revenues
Merchandise Sales

To name a few.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #81
Nick said:
Nope, still not had any replies from Michael to the messages I sent....
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He asked me to speak to you. I sent you a message. Is this like one of those offers made by a third party so it is not officially heard?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #82
lewys33 said:
I think it is quite amusing how certain individuals have slated Michael for the comment about lack of investment in the team, ignoring the following points stating that all sides are at fault and need grilling!

I also find it quite amusing how it appears some would point the finger at the fans for there being a lack of money for players. Despite SISU saying they could cover the losses at sixfields.

My my what a joke ..........
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Covering losses does not mean spending out.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #83
RoboCCFC90 said:
FFP
Sponsorship revenues
Merchandise Sales

To name a few.
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all their own fault. Although the fans will be blamed for FFP. shame.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #84
lewys33 said:
He asked me to speak to you. I sent you a message. Is this like one of those offers made by a third party so it is not officially heard?
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No I made the offer directly along with a couple of queries. I can't send emails out on behalf of the site without them being cleared up. I will send them to you later on to see if you can reply
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #85
mark82 said:
Covering losses does not mean spending out.
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Correct. Point?
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #86
Nick said:
No I made the offer directly.
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So are you ignoring the fact I sent you a message asking if you could do it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #87
lewys33 said:
So are you ignoring the fact I sent you a message asking if you could do it?
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Sorry, I added this on, my fault :

No I made the offer directly along with a couple of queries. I can't send emails out on behalf of the site without them being cleared up. I will send them to you later on to see if you can reply
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I am not ignoring anything, I am the one being ignored.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #88
lewys33 said:
all their own fault. Although the fans will be blamed for FFP. shame.
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Ah yes of course it is because everything is Sisu's fault isn't it? I forgot about that mindset.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #89
Nick said:
Sorry, I added this on, my fault :



I am not ignoring anything, I am the one being ignored.
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Ok I will look later. If you don't get answers from him badger me. I have no issue with that.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #90
RoboCCFC90 said:
Ah yes of course it is because everything is Sisu's fault isn't it? I forgot about that mindset.
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Not everything at all. Moving to sixfields is their fault. Therefore the reactions to that move must also lie with them. Pre-sixfields is a different matter.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #91
lewys33 said:
Not everything at all. Moving to sixfields is their fault. Therefore the reactions to that move must also lie with them. Pre-sixfields is a different matter.
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Can you still not see the irony though? Must just be me

I am not having any digs and I think Michael works his arse off for what he believes in but sometimes just proof read and proof read again before sending stuff out
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #92
Nick said:
Can you still not see the irony though? Must just be me

I am not having any digs and I think Michael works his arse off for what he believes in but sometimes just proof read and proof read again before sending stuff out
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I do get the point. However it is irrelevant. It would be much more ironic if it was - NOPM DONT EVER GO TO SIXFIELDS OR YOU ARE AN AIDS INFESTED SCAB. WHY HAVE THEY NOT BOUGHT MICHAEL OWEN?! But it isn't.

Its just another thing where the fans are expected to bend and bend and bend. Why?
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #93
lewys33 said:
Not everything at all. Moving to sixfields is their fault. Therefore the reactions to that move must also lie with them. Pre-sixfields is a different matter.
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I struggle to see how the move to Sixfields impacted on the sponsorship deals?? Plus then there is NOPM which was banded about the beginning of the season, of course you could (knowing you, you're more likely too argue it) argue that Sisu are at fault for these as well.

Yet it's still amazing as Michael was sounding off about their being no real investment in the team, yet he expects the owners to continue to pump their own money into a bottomless pit, just in fact like Pre-Sixfields.. Funny that.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #94
lewys33 said:
I do get the point. However it is irrelevant. It would be much more ironic if it was - NOPM DONT EVER GO TO SIXFIELDS OR YOU ARE AN AIDS INFESTED SCAB. WHY HAVE THEY NOT BOUGHT MICHAEL OWEN?! But it isn't.

Its just another thing where the fans are expected to bend and bend and bend. Why?
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It is though, just not in so many words Well it is how it comes across.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #95
Nick said:
It is though, just not in so many words Well it is how it comes across.
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You have to say it in a brummie accent. Its not as offensive then.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #96
RoboCCFC90 said:
I struggle to see how the move to Sixfields impacted on the sponsorship deals?? Plus then there is NOPM which was banded about the beginning of the season, of course you could (knowing you, you're more likely too argue it) argue that Sisu are at fault for these as well.

Yet it's still amazing as Michael was sounding off about their being no real investment in the team, yet he expects the owners to continue to pump their own money into a bottomless pit, just in fact like Pre-Sixfields.. Funny that.
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Huh?!? Who's fault is it if not their own?

Why would they have pumped in their own money? The sale of Leon Clarke and the Arsenal game would be the clubs money wouldn't it? So could they not use the clubs money? Or does the clubs money have to fund the losses there now?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #97
Havnt they just taken In circa £1.25-£1.5m.In revenues not budgeted for?How fortuitous that bad boy LC. asked to leave
Who else could have Recouped them a windfall like that In January. Not really aimed at you Mark, more to address the naivety of some of Robo's posts. They've chosen to mitigate losses rather than support the manager, who despite Robo's
protestations has had to run the squad 2-3 light all season, especially up front and compounded with Injuries we all knew would come along.
The loans have been an abject failure , the squad was never fully recharged. despite the embargo and they've just taken one of the higher earners off the wage bill,they're not spending or keeping the status quo.
Why are'mr you all going?
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #98
lewys33 said:
I do get the point. However it is irrelevant. It would be much more ironic if it was - NOPM DONT EVER GO TO SIXFIELDS OR YOU ARE AN AIDS INFESTED SCAB. WHY HAVE THEY NOT BOUGHT MICHAEL OWEN?! But it isn't.

Its just another thing where the fans are expected to bend and bend and bend. Why?
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But it is acceptable when people are shouting NOPM to the high heavens and you are labelled a scab if you bend?
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #99
lewys33 said:
Huh?!? Who's fault is it if not their own?

Why would they have pumped in their own money? The sale of Leon Clarke and the Arsenal game would be the clubs money wouldn't it? So could they not use the clubs money? Or does the clubs money have to fund the losses there now?
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So Succinct, If only I could post like that!!
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #100
lewys33 said:
Huh?!? Who's fault is it if not their own?

Why would they have pumped in their own money? The sale of Leon Clarke and the Arsenal game would be the clubs money wouldn't it? So could they not use the clubs money? Or does the clubs money have to fund the losses there now?
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To turn it around then they can't use the Clubs money to pay wages or to hold until a further time that a better option is avaliable?
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #101
RoboCCFC90 said:
To turn it around then they can't use the Clubs money to pay wages or to hold until a further time that a better option is avaliable?
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Of course. But if they are relying on selling players to pay wages we are doomed. If it is the later I hope the better option hurries their arse up!
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #102
RoboCCFC90 said:
But it is acceptable when people are shouting NOPM to the high heavens and you are labelled a scab if you bend?
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When did this happen?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #103
lewys33 said:
Of course. But if they are relying on selling players to pay wages we are doomed. If it is the later I hope the better option hurries their arse up!
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This is what people wanted isn't it? Starve the club and force it to sell its assets. Its obvious they will then use those assets to fund unanticipated holes in revenue.
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #104
Grendel said:
This is what people wanted isn't it? Starve the club and force it to sell its assets. Its obvious they will then use those assets to fund unanticipated holes in revenue.
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Yes this is what was wanted. Hurray for justice!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2014
  • #105
Nick said:
Not One Penny More?

I will wait for the council version of these if everybody has a share of the blame too?



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What happened to the lot that arranged the protest outside the council house with les ried? Surely they could offer this service.

Let's be honest most people hold sisu mainly responsible for our position and are more in line with Michaels way of thinking. So why ain't this other lot filling the small void of opinion that covers fans like you?

Hell. There's even opportunities where both organisations could work together and show a united front, such as the petition.
 
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