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Fans who called for admin (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Mar 29, 2013
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 29, 2013
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So what happens now?? People called for it like it would fix all of our problems!
 

sky_blue_up_north

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #2
Does not work like that, admin is never good....
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #3
If we were 100% in admin maybe, but we've been divided up. More smoke and mirrors ffs. Just want a sustainable ccfc
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #4
Because people are thick.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #5
Admin was never gonna solve all our problems, you only need to look at pompy and the majority of other teams that have gone into admin post points deduction.

I fear we have not hit rock bottom yet.
 
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spwaverley4916

Active Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #6
15 points from play offs -instead of 5 and now 12 points from relegation instead of 22 - how can administration and losing 10 points be any good for us. I am stating the fact as it is today - not what 'might' happen.
sad few days
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #7
Wait for the 'yeah, but it was SISU who made the decision'.....
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #8
We're not in admin according to Fisher.
 
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ricohman

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #9
A certain few including me wanted admit and sisu out, not admin with sisu still clinging on to the reigns. We wanted the club clear for a takeover, but thats a long way off now.

Im sure not one person wanted admin just for the sake of it
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #10
I still think staying with SISU was preferable to going into admin.

-Take aim
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #11
We could end up in Admin and SISU :facepalm:

- Fire
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #12
That's because Your'e a sisu rent boy.
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #13
Target hit.
 

Oh for an Ian Gibson.

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #14
Nobody wanted admin for the sake of it, just a way of possibly forcing Sisu into relinquishing control of the club. What it has done is expose their business practice, from being 'debt free', qoute from Tim Fisher, we now have debts of £60million. I still feel admin will be worth the pain if eventually we see the back of Sisu, after all it would be the first we have seen of them at all.
 
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theferret

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #15
italiahorse said:
I still think staying with SISU was preferable to going into admin.

-Take aim
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My ideal scenario would have been that a deal was done on the rent, we avoided admin but that it was made clear to SISU that neither ACL nor Higgs would consider selling them a stake in the Arena. Their only option to get any sort return on their investment would have been either to be steer the club out of this division and back to the top flight, or sell up and cut their losses.

Far fetched? Yes, I guess, but not nearly as much as the idea that admin was the end to our problems, when in reality it is just the start of a load of new problems. And SISU are still here and will be for a good while I suspect.
 
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Colin1883

Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #16
A couple of weeks I sent in a text to Cwr when they had a that guy from the trust as fan of the week? saying that admin would be a disaster giving the example of what had happened at pompey as the way things could go.... I think the battle has just begun and things might get a lot darker... There is no way that I am pro sisu, we need owners with a strategy and all the rites that come with ownership of the Ricoh be that half or full ie: f and b , and terms to develop the surrounding area... Who this will be I don't know, I don't even know if such a person even exists
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #17
Nick said:
So what happens now?? People called for it like it would fix all of our problems!
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We get taken over by a billionaire and fly on our magic carpet to the champions league
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #18
Nah,just another 6 years of lies,failure and misery if they stay.
 
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theferret

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #19
Failure? Oh absolutely, they have mismanaged the club, no question. But then, we haven't had a top 6 finish for 43 years, so that mismanagement goes back a long way unfortunately.

I yearn for the day we have owners with vision, but they need money to back that up (even more than SISU). I don't believe there is anyone who would take on this basket case of a club. I hope I am proved wrong.
 
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Noggin

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #20
Nick said:
So what happens now?? People called for it like it would fix all of our problems!
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No one wanted what has happened. Sisu seemed to have screwed us 10 times more than we were already screwed.
 

Bill Glazier

Active Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #21
Please understand that 10 point deduction now is by far the best outcome; much better than starting next season with a possibly bigger deduction. What were the odds on promotion before the deduction ? Well , I'd say we had about a 10% chance of reaching the playoffs - maybe 15% if you're feeling generous. And then we would have had a 25% chance of winning through. These are vanishingly small odds.

With luck the club can now avoid more deductions and keep our lg 1 status . There is now time to get rid of Sisu , restructure the club and start afresh, maybe with some an trust ownership and with the great prospect of the club owning it own ground once more. This is the only future that can work.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #22
Bill Glazier said:
Please understand that 10 point deduction now is by far the best outcome; much better than starting next season with a possibly bigger deduction. What were the odds on promotion before the deduction ? Well , I'd say we had about a 10% chance of reaching the playoffs - maybe 15% if you're feeling generous. And then we would have had a 25% chance of winning through. These are vanishingly small odds.

With luck the club can now avoid more deductions and keep our lg 1 status . There is now time to get rid of Sisu , restructure the club and start afresh, maybe with some an trust ownership and with the great prospect of the club owning it own ground once more. This is the only future that can work.
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We will get 15 points next season as wrll
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #23
Looks like at least another 2 seasons down here then:-(
 
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ricohman

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #24
Grendel said:
We will get 15 points next season as wrll
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Why wil we get 15 nxt year also, theres nothing to suggest this, just people putting it out there so in 8months time they can say i told u so
 
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Ashdown1

New Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #25
Does anyone actually know yet what our particular brand of Admin entails??? I'm not sure I do. Usually it means a change of ownership completely but in this case for the moment we are still stuck with the same idiots. Lets give it the 6 weeks and see if these 'Investors' are genuine?!
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #26
We're doomed, I tells ya!! DOOMED!!

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #27
coundonskyblue said:
We're not in admin according to Fisher.
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He's also said that the Earth is flat and McSheffrey is the next Bolt.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #28
theferret said:
Failure? Oh absolutely, they have mismanaged the club, no question. But then, we haven't had a top 6 finish for 43 years, so that mismanagement goes back a long way unfortunately.

I yearn for the day we have owners with vision, but they need money to back that up (even more than SISU). I don't believe there is anyone who would take on this basket case of a club. I hope I am proved wrong.
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Well, now we will soon find out whether the only one to publicly state interest is actually serious about his intentions. If SISU are still here next season and the Ricoh squabbling isn't settled then we're in for a struggle.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #29
So people who were touting admin would be the best thing didnt really think it through?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #30
hill83 said:
We get taken over by a billionaire and fly on our magic carpet to the champions league
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Where was SISU's carpet flying?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #31
ricohman said:
Why wil we get 15 nxt year also, theres nothing to suggest this, just people putting it out there so in 8months time they can say i told u so
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Because new owners will have to agree with sisu terms to exit administration. Otherwise the administrator sells without consent and we exit without a voluntary CVA - automatic 15 points penalty.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #32
Nick said:
So people who were touting admin would be the best thing didnt really think it through?
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I think people assumed that it would force SISU to sell up immediately to A.N. Other interested party.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #33
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think people assumed that it would force SISU to sell up immediately to A.N. Other interested party.
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That will happen of anyone is interested and will incur a minimum 15 points penalty.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #34
Grendel said:
That will happen of anyone is interested and will incur a minimum 15 points penalty.
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There is of course the possibility that they declare an amount of the debt they want back, new owners meet that and there is no such penalty. I'd also like to know who would take over SBS+L and CCFCH; presumably those would have to be part of the package.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2013
  • #35
italiahorse said:
I still think staying with SISU was preferable to going into admin.

-Take aim
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BANG!.....Staying with SISU would see us fall even further down the leagues.
If we had got promotion back into the Championship without a 10 points deduction, do you really think this team is good enough to even compete, let alone win any games?...What would be needed?.....A vast injection of quality players compared to the ones we have now.....Who would fork out the money to pay for good players? Certainly not SISU...Do you see them breaking a habit of a lifetime and actually use their own money instead of getting rid of a player on £6k per week and bringing in 3 shit players on wages totalling £5k. looks brilliant on paper, but is in fact tripe!:facepalm:
 
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