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@richh87

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  • Sep 21, 2013
  • #106
Also, without knowing the other investments that make up their portfolios you have no idea how SISU are performing overall - or the risk model the investors are in and what percentage this failed investment makes up of that.
 
Last edited: Sep 21, 2013

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2013
  • #107
@richh87 said:
Extremely aware. Do you think it means that losses on one portion of their portfolio is irrelevant?
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It means that ultimately most investors have no actual ability to decipher where each element of the investment is.

For once instead of acting like one of the characters portrayed in that ghastly Harry Enfield / Kathy Burke combo actually show some maturity in you debating style. Really. its so pathetic there is little point in responding.
 

@richh87

Member
  • Sep 21, 2013
  • #108
Grendel said:
It means that ultimately most investors have no actual ability to decipher where each element of the investment is.
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Well that's where you're wrong actually, investors will often be provided with a breakdown of the main funds invested in. It's the outside world that this won't be disclosed to.

Why do you persist in these massively unpopular opinions that nothing the fans do matters, and that SISU can lose as much money as they like without consequences?

You ridicule all protests and laugh at the idea that we can have any effect whatsoever. The fact that you find it all so amusing and back up everything SISU do shows you for what you are, a sad troll who inexplicably spends far too much of his time on a CCFC forum.

We've both been on here several years (you previously as Duffy until you got so much stick you created a new account to leave your embarrassing posting history behind), yet I've never seen you involved in a match day thread or discussing tactics etc. You simply don't want this club to succeed - you're purely here to stir things up.
 
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Tonylinc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #109
@richh87 said:
Well that's where you're wrong actually, investors will often be provided with a breakdown of the main funds invested in. It's the outside world that this won't be disclosed to.

Why do you persist in these massively unpopular opinions that nothing the fans do matters, and that SISU can lose as much money as they like without consequences?

You ridicule all protests and laugh at the idea that we can have any effect whatsoever. The fact that you find it all so amusing and back up everything SISU do shows you for what you are, a sad troll who inexplicably spends far too much of his time on a CCFC forum.

We've both been on here several years (you previously as Duffy until you got so much stick you created a new account to leave your embarrassing posting history behind), yet I've never seen you involved in a match day thread or discussing tactics etc. You simply don't want this club to succeed - you're purely here to stir things up.
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...........And Grendel leaves again or has his Mum told him to go to bed?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #110
@richh87 said:
Well that's where you're wrong actually, investors will often be provided with a breakdown of the main funds invested in. It's the outside world that this won't be disclosed to.

Why do you persist in these massively unpopular opinions that nothing the fans do matters, and that SISU can lose as much money as they like without consequences?

You ridicule all protests and laugh at the idea that we can have any effect whatsoever. The fact that you find it all so amusing and back up everything SISU do shows you for what you are, a sad troll who inexplicably spends far too much of his time on a CCFC forum.

We've both been on here several years (you previously as Duffy until you got so much stick you created a new account to leave your embarrassing posting history behind), yet I've never seen you involved in a match day thread or discussing tactics etc. You simply don't want this club to succeed - you're purely here to stir things up.
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My posting history is intact. I think we've been involved in several discussions on footballing matters - mainly involving your ridiculous assertion that the clueless twat Thorn was a capable manager. You soon scurried away when you eventually realised you had backed a dud and hid away for some time. Now you have returned with some Citizen Smith style power to the people mantra spouting even more inane garbage than you did before.

Carry on - Your financial analysis is almost as amusing as your analysis of what makes a decent football manager.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #111
Tonylinc said:
...........And Grendel leaves again or has his Mum told him to go to bed?
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Does Bobby Davro write your scripts?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #112
Shame he doesn't write yours you really do talk shit.

Grendel said:
Does Bobby Davro write your scripts?
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alphabettyspagetty

Banned
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #113
@richh87 said:
Well that's where you're wrong actually, investors will often be provided with a breakdown of the main funds invested in. It's the outside world that this won't be disclosed to.

Why do you persist in these massively unpopular opinions that nothing the fans do matters, and that SISU can lose as much money as they like without consequences?

You ridicule all protests and laugh at the idea that we can have any effect whatsoever. The fact that you find it all so amusing and back up everything SISU do shows you for what you are, a sad troll who inexplicably spends far too much of his time on a CCFC forum.

We've both been on here several years (you previously as Duffy until you got so much stick you created a new account to leave your embarrassing posting history behind), yet I've never seen you involved in a match day thread or discussing tactics etc. You simply don't want this club to succeed - you're purely here to stir things up.
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Clues in the moniker used rich. I'm sure you are aware, but Grendel is a troll from Beowulf. Coincidence?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #114
alphabettyspagetty said:
Clues in the moniker used rich. I'm sure you are aware, but Grendel is a troll from Beowulf. Coincidence?
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So what are you - disgusting third rate pasta served to children on toast?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #115
That is really a poor response Grendel you need to do better
Grendel said:
So what are you - disgusting third rate pasta served to children on toast?
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #116
letsallsingtogether said:
That is really a poor response Grendel you need to do better
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After being lamely called a troll when it is clear I am an anything but? I don't think so.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #117
Who said you weren't let me at um
Grendel said:
After being lamely called a troll when it is clear I am an anything but? I don't think so.
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SydneySkyBlue

Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #118
Covstu said:
I dislike them but I try not to go over the top like some...
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Sorry but from one City fan to another, I find this sentiment simply baffling.

Against a backdrop of total disregard of its customers and community, they have taken the club down a league and far more importantly, out of the city.

And all you can muster is a 'dislike'.

Each to their own of course.
 
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@richh87

Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #119
alphabettyspagetty said:
Clues in the moniker used rich. I'm sure you are aware, but Grendel is a troll from Beowulf. Coincidence?
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Thanks mate, I actually had no idea what Grendel was (hadn't bothered to look it up). Makes perfect sense now.

I'd genuinely love to know if the poster is a supporter of a rival club, or supports a team at all. I assume he does have an interest in football as he knows a bit.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #120
letsallsingtogether said:
That is really a poor response Grendel you need to do better
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Actually quite tame for you Grendel, normally far more expletive! But the first to castigate others for having a go back.

Too many people on here going for super fan status...I think the missing fans actually have the stronger voice on our future...or is that a too common sense a business approach?
 
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No future with SISU

New Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #121
Nick said:
The survey means nothing
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Explain why the survey means nothing?
 

@richh87

Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #122
Hobo said:
Actually quite tame for you Grendel, normally far more expletive! But the first to castigate others for having a go back.

Too many people on here going for super fan status...I think the missing fans actually have the stronger voice on our future...or is that a too common sense a business approach?
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I'm not sure people want super fan status, they just want the club back ASAP. That's what I want. Staying away is good as far as NOPM goes, but I'd love to see everyone make a one-off effort v Sheff utd
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #123
@richh87 said:
Thanks mate, I actually had no idea what Grendel was (hadn't bothered to look it up). Makes perfect sense now.

I'd genuinely love to know if the poster is a supporter of a rival club, or supports a team at all. I assume he does have an interest in football as he knows a bit.
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Ok tell you what. Lets have a competition. We will get Dean to give both of us 10 questions on CCFC since 1974 and we will answer them in one minute (to avoid wiki etc.) we will agree a time to do it. Up for that?
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #124
Grendel said:
Ok tell you what. Lets have a competition. We will get Dean to give both of us 10 questions on CCFC since 1974 and we will answer them in one minute (to avoid wiki etc.) we will agree a time to do it. Up for that?
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Are you going for super fan status Grendel?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #125
Hobo said:
Are you going for super fan status Grendel?
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No I'm not. Indeed I have been struggling with some of Deans questions of late - I would have won hands down years ago but we have had so many players since relegation my anorak status has long gone.

However the notion I am not a fan is absurd.

I will to spice it up say to rich the loser forks out £50 to the winners charity - do lets see if rich wants the challenge.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #126
@richh87 said:
I'm not sure people want super fan status, they just want the club back ASAP. That's what I want. Staying away is good as far as NOPM goes, but I'd love to see everyone make a one-off effort v Sheff utd
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Grendel Ok tell you what. Lets have a competition. We will get Dean to give both of us 10 questions on CCFC since 1974 and we will answer them in one minute (to avoid wiki etc.) we will agree a time to do it. Up for that?

Are you sure about that Rich, loads of posts on here are about fans claiming to be better than others!

But like you I care about my club and your club. I care about other clubs. I care about FL rules or lack of them. I admire anyone who has stayed with the club through thick and thin, but I care more about the fans that have drifted away, because they are our real future and path out of this.

But we will never get them back until we have some open communication from our owners, some transparency and integrity.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #127
Hobo said:
Grendel Ok tell you what. Lets have a competition. We will get Dean to give both of us 10 questions on CCFC since 1974 and we will answer them in one minute (to avoid wiki etc.) we will agree a time to do it. Up for that?

Are you sure about that Rich, loads of posts on here are about fans claiming to be better than others!

But like you I care about my club and your club. I care about other clubs. I care about FL rules or lack of them. I admire anyone who has stayed with the club through thick and thin, but I care more about the fans that have drifted away, because they are our real future and path out of this.

But we will never get them back until we have some open communication from our owners, some transparency and integrity.
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I am more interested in taking in Rich due to his offensive post regarding myself but a triumvirate is acceptable.
 
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No future with SISU

New Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #128
CCFC need to take cash on the gates to pay the wages each month. With so little money been taken on the gate, SISU will have to start finding cash. Some people on here think they have a bank account with unlimited cash in it, they do not understand that CCFC accountant will have done a spending forecast at the start of the season. Fishers statement that the gates will be 3000 to 6000 is what the accountant would have used for his figures. SISU at this time said they could fund the club(they know how much money is in the bank) but now with gates of 1500 to 2500 will they make the same statement.
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #129
Grendel said:
I am more interested in taking in Rich due to his offensive post regarding myself but a triumvirate is acceptable.
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The point is Grendel you don't take anyone in.
 

@richh87

Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #130
Showing your age there Grendel!!! 1974?! Jesus

Either you're ancient, or have a lot of faith in google.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2013
  • #131
@richh87 said:
Showing your age there Grendel!!! 1974?! Jesus 

Either you're ancient, or have a lot of faith in google.
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I'm a troll so doesn't matter what era -- I don't support the club - -remember?

Lets double it £100 to the local charity of your choice.

What do you say?
 
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Spionkop

New Member
  • Sep 23, 2013
  • #132
Hey Rich, 1974, steady on. Ancient? I go back to 1959. I must be prehistoric!
 
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Matty_CCFC

New Member
  • Sep 23, 2013
  • #133
Voice_of_Reason said:
I feel it is now more important than ever that the boycott of Sixfields is stepped up. The tide, in my opinion, is slowly turning -- the survey (for all it's crticism relating to KCIC/NOPM) is a barameter, plus nearly 3 times as many going to Port Vale than those going to Sixfields shows SISU the support is there. The willingness of ACL to draw a line and start afresh and SISU not dismissing it out of hand is a positive sign.

The battle is far from won, far from it, but the tide is turning ! Support NOPM and KCIC now more than ever !
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We will not win till the vast majority get off there arses and do something.

Those going into Sixfields have to try and be stronger and look at the bigger picture.
 
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dadgad

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2013
  • #134
Nick said:
If we do move back to the Ricoh is it going to be because of the people on the hill? I hope we do move back
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Hope achieves sweet FA.
Ask yourself what are you doing to get what you wish for.
We'll have to fight for what we want.
Kcic
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Sep 23, 2013
  • #135
Are those going to sixfields protesting inside? From what I've heard on the radio they can't even be bothered to get behind the team let alone protest.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2013
  • #136
valiant15 said:
Are those going to sixfields protesting inside? From what I've heard on the radio they can't even be bothered to get behind the team let alone protest.
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What's your point then? Should they be protesting or supporting the team?

You lot really tie yourselves up in knots at times......
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Sep 23, 2013
  • #137
They should be doing both.
 
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simple_simon

New Member
  • Sep 23, 2013
  • #138
You lot?

we are all the same lot, City Fans.

Get off the fence go one way or the other?
 
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Ashdown1

New Member
  • Sep 23, 2013
  • #139
This mess will only now be resolved when:
A; SISU get fed up of funding a loss making club and seek talks

or
B; ACL/CCC get fed up of funding a loss making Arena and seek talks

All the fans can do is determine at least one of the parties is making significant losses, could be a long wait for nowt though !
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2013
  • #140
GinettasStickySofa said:
Sorry but from one City fan to another, I find this sentiment simply baffling.

Against a backdrop of total disregard of its customers and community, they have taken the club down a league and far more importantly, out of the city.

And all you can muster is a 'dislike'.

Each to their own of course.
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The previous regime took us down a league and get away Scott free, why is that??

What do you want me to do, get all angry and stand on a hill with my SISU out banner? Each to their own of course..

Done the angry bit, the solution is to get us back to the Ricoh and none of us can do that, this is down to SISU and ACL.
 
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