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slowpoke

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #36
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s not writing him off, it’s taking a pragmatic view that at 37 going on 38, it’s inevitable that performance will begin to decline at some point.

As a club, we need to have a viable succession plan.
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Strachan was 40 played and starred for us, in the Premiership too Dennis Wise and Roland Nielsen weren’t far off 40 either.
All three would be well up the list of our best ever players.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #37
slowpoke said:
Strachan was 40 played and starred for us, in the Premiership too Dennis Wise and Roland Nielsen weren’t far off 40 either.
All three would be well up the list of our best ever players.
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Not sure Dennis wise would for a half season cameo in the 2nd tier
 
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Dimi_Konstantflapalot

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #38
fernandopartridge said:
His ability to organise and coach the younger centre backs offsets the lack of pace. Let's see how he gets on, he was written off after the promotion season but went from strength to strength.

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Exactly this, we saw how much we missed him when he was injured post the WC break when we had a back 3 of Rose, Doyle, Panzo

I have the same concerns going into this season, while Thomas, Binks and LatiBeau look like great signings on paper, they are young and will make mistakes - this can be mitigated with an older more experienced head to organise, communicate and get positioning right
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #39
Evo1883 said:
Not sure Dennis wise would for a half season cameo in the 2nd tier
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Only one player has scored an overhead kick for us since...
 
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twistandshout

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #40
slowpoke said:
Strachan was 40 played and starred for us, in the Premiership too Dennis Wise and Roland Nielsen weren’t far off 40 either.
All three would be well up the list of our best ever players.
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The problem is Faz pace is only getting worse. The same could be said about Godden, the difference is Faz is often the last man between the striker and the goalkeeper.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #41
twistandshout said:
The problem is Faz pace is only getting worse. The same could be said about Godden, the difference is Faz is often the last man between the striker and the goalkeeper.
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I don't think pace has ever been one of his attributes
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #42
Grendel said:
I don't think pace has ever been one of his attributes
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We don't play a high line in any case
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #43
Grendel said:
It’s one friendly game. He’s defied logic and expectation since we got promoted. We’ve always struggled in the system we play without him
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It's crazy, the season hasn't even started and some people are writing Faz off.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #44
fernandopartridge said:
We don't play a high line in any case
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Think that’s because of Wilson and Fadz TBH
 
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rockwoodfleet

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #45
bradwellskyblues said:
i think Bobby Thomas has been signed as Fadz replacement but i am sure Fadz will start the season
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Agree with that.

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AOM

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #46
fernandopartridge said:
His ability to organise and coach the younger centre backs offsets the lack of pace. Let's see how he gets on, he was written off after the promotion season but went from strength to strength.

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I swear people say the same thing about McFadzean at the start of every season he's been with us, but he's improved every year.
Eventually he will have to be phased out, but wouldn't be surprised to see he's still a key point in defence this season
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #47
AOM said:
I swear people say the same thing about McFadzean at the start of every season he's been with us, but he's improved every year.
Eventually he will have to be phased out, but wouldn't be surprised to see he's still a key point in defence this season
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There is a bit of recency bias because of the Luton game I think

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Kilclines curly mullet

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #48
Saddlebrains said:
True, but we dont have any cover there
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Bidwell
 

Frostie

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #49
Saddlebrains said:
Thomas is being groomed for the Fadz role long term. When we get the LCB in you'll see Thomas move to the fadz role
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Not so sure. Thomas likes to carry the ball & get forward which can be done easier from the wider CB roles.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #50
Frostie said:
Not so sure. Thomas likes to carry the ball & get forward which can be done easier from the wider CB roles.
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Which one of our current centre backs do you feel would be most likely to drop into the middle?

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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #51
TomRad85 said:
Which one of our current centre backs do you feel would be most likely to drop into the middle?

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Thomas although I think he perfectly suits RCB

we need a CCB
 

SHUNT31

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #52
Matt smith said:
Thomas although I think he perfectly suits RCB

we need a CCB
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Would love an absolute shithouse like Reda Johnson was.
 
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Frostie

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #53
TomRad85 said:
Which one of our current centre backs do you feel would be most likely to drop into the middle?

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If Fadz was unavailable on Sunday & we hadn't brought another in, possibly Latibeaudiere. He's pretty comfortable on either side & can utilise his range of passing. I'd probably be a bit concerned about him aerially against a more direct side though.

That's not to say Thomas wouldn't do a good job in the centre, I'm sure he would, but just think it takes away from some of his assets & the way we will look to build attacks.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #54
Matt smith said:
Thomas although I think he perfectly suits RCB

we need a CCB
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fernandopartridge said:
His ability to organise and coach the younger centre backs offsets the lack of pace. Let's see how he gets on, he was written off after the promotion season but went from strength to strength.

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I agree, he’s going to start the season because he is a great leader. It’s a long season, and you’ve got to question whether he can maintain that level of performance - or fitness even - for 50+ games this season.

There’s got to be a plan, and I suspect we’ll sign a more experienced CB to play alongside the young players.

Not sure how true this was, but we’re reportedly linked with Jack Hendry, a 28 year old CB standing at 6”5 - before we went to Saudi. I suspect he would be a CCB.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #55
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I agree, he’s going to start the season because he is a great leader. It’s a long season, and you’ve got to question whether he can maintain that level of performance - or fitness even - for 50+ games this season.

There’s got to be a plan, and I suspect we’ll sign a more experienced CB to play alongside the young players.

Not sure how true this was, but we’re reportedly linked with Jack Hendry, a 28 year old CB standing at 6”5 - before we went to Saudi. I suspect he would be a CCB.
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I just think we need that type of centre half, we’ve got ball players, we need a bit of a lump
 

Frostie

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #56
Matt smith said:
I just think we need that type of centre half, we’ve got ball players, we need a bit of a lump
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The great thing with Fadz is he can do a bit of both. Not the same levels on the ball to the likes of Doyle obviously but not bad.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #57
Frostie said:
The great thing with Fadz is he can do a bit of both. Not the same levels on the ball to the likes of Doyle obviously but not bad.
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He's excellent on the ball really, not the passing range necessarily but his calmness say when facing his own goal.

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Martin180

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #58
My opinion will be Latibeaudiare will play centrally when Fadz is out . He isn’t the presence of Fadz but Thomas and Binks are big units , also he’s played CDM for Jamaica recently so will have to positional awareness to read the game
 
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Matt smith

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  • Aug 2, 2023
  • #59
fernandopartridge said:
He's excellent on the ball really, not the passing range necessarily but his calmness say when facing his own goal.

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Yeah agreed he can do both great point @Frostie
 
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Dirk Turpin

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  • Aug 3, 2023
  • #60
He looked a bit shaky the first season we came up and dropped a few clangers, but hes stepped up massively. You could see how much Doyle and McNally learned from him when they played in the 3 at the back. Still think he will feature this season just with a few younger lads on either side to do the running
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • Aug 3, 2023
  • #61
He did brilliantly last season even though he drank all the Vodka and Jagarbombs , made his head massive
 

AOM

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  • Aug 3, 2023
  • #62
Dirk Turpin said:
He looked a bit shaky the first season we came up and dropped a few clangers, but hes stepped up massively. You could see how much Doyle and McNally learned from him when they played in the 3 at the back. Still think he will feature this season just with a few younger lads on either side to do the running
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Seemed to bring the best out of Panzo too. He looked a bit lost and his form dropped when McFadzean was out
 
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Dirk Turpin

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  • Aug 3, 2023
  • #63
AOM said:
Seemed to bring the best out of Panzo too. He looked a bit lost and his form dropped when McFadzean was out
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Probably one of the best to learn from, knows a little shithousery from the lower leagues but can also keep it subtle enough for championship.
 
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Malaka

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  • Aug 3, 2023
  • #64
twistandshout said:
The problem is Faz pace is only getting worse. The same could be said about Godden, the difference is Faz is often the last man between the striker and the goalkeeper.
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And for that reason, if we play Fadz, we need to play three at the back.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 3, 2023
  • #65
One of my favourite players over the last 15 years
 
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stupot07

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  • Aug 3, 2023
  • #66
There will come a time when his legs go and his influence wanes at this level, it happens to all players.

I was shocked at how poor he was against Exeter, but we have to give him some time.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2023
  • #67
stupot07 said:
There will come a time when his legs go and his influence wanes at this level, it happens to all players.

I was shocked at how poor he was against Exeter, but we have to give him some time.

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There will, but his influence on those around him is worth as much as what he does himself.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 3, 2023
  • #68
stupot07 said:
There will come a time when his legs go and his influence wanes at this level, it happens to all players.

I was shocked at how poor he was against Exeter, but we have to give him some time.

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In fairness to him he might be just a bit rusty, reckon / know at his age coming back to full fitness is a slower process
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 3, 2023
  • #69
With three at the back, you can afford to have one no-nonsense old-fashioned centreback to kick and head stuff away, and if that player can also help manage the game for those around him with less experience even better.

At some point Fadz's will struggle to keep up with the game and it will outweigh what he does bring to the side. I hope that situation isn't imminent and we can let one of the other's CB's learn from him so they can take over. I think Thomas might have been signed with one eye on that.
 
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