AOM
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And the Spanish Cup final was held in Saudi Arabia
The fixture nonsense stretches across Europe too. I’ve got tickets for Elche v Atlético tomorrow. They stagger the kick offs to suit the TV pricks. This one is 21.30 pm , ludicrous !
The moneymen seem to be doing just fine at the moment.Agreed. But a thread on FA cup replays misses the point.
In my opinion, the problems began with...
A) The end of sharing of gate receipts in the league (1980's I reckon)
B) 1992 (When football began according to Sky)
But somehow, we still have Brentford in the top flight whilst 'mighty' Leeds are floundering about for years in the second tier.
Football will always find a way to confoud the moneymen.
Your feelings about the replay last season don’t seem to match those of most City fans as over 19k turned up at the CBS for the game. I think almost all would have gone home happy having seen an entertaining game and a 4-1 win for our team. Don’t forget that’s 19k customers all paying on the night, gate money plus all of the ancillary spend that has now disappeared with the replays.That’s an uncharitable take!
The attendance figures speak for themselves and the outlook for our cup competitions isn’t great and hasn’t been for a while. The replay would’ve been on a weekday and attendances suppressed, especially our away support.
For every glamour cup tie, there’s 2-3 ties where there’s not that much interest on both teams end.
I’d have probably gone to a replay in Sheffield on a weekday but would’ve likely had to take time off work which isn’t ideal. I remember distinctly thinking at Sheff Wednesday away last season that I’d wish the game had been decided then and there at Hillsborough either way rather than a replay at home.
My personal feeling is that extra time should be scrapped. If teams are level at full time - 90 minutes - then go straight to penalties! But what do I know ( or care!)
Hasn’t the devaluation come as a result of increased televised games?Your feelings about the replay last season don’t seem to match those of most City fans as over 19k turned up at the CBS for the game. I think almost all would have gone home happy having seen an entertaining game and a 4-1 win for our team. Don’t forget that’s 19k customers all paying on the night, gate money plus all of the ancillary spend that has now disappeared with the replays.
I doubt that you were following football when the Cup as a competition was as important as the league. Therefore you wouldn’t have known the excitement generated by your team when they held the opposition away with a great cup fighting performance and earned the right to take them on at your place.Look at gates for Cup ties up until the advent of the PL. They were almost always higher than the average gate for a league game.
Unfortunately younger fans can’t compare the Cup now and then and see how it has been devalued. It’s all been done to appease the so called elite and so a great competition is continually downgraded.
Maybe it’s because you’ve never known what it once was that you continue to agree with everything that Pep, Jurgan and their friends at the FA do to damage the Cup.
Hasn’t the devaluation come as a result of increased televised games?
I was born in 88 but I’m led to believe the final was a national event and was the only televised game all year. Or one of the rare ones?
every game is now available somewhere.
Yeah at this point I’m taking promotion over the cup.It's hard to describe what a huge event the FA cup used to be.
It was 'FA cup day' not just the final. Coverage started at about 10am and the whole country tuned in regardless of whether your team was involved.
Being a rare televised live game was definitely part of it.
I'd wager if someone had done a survey at the time, win the league or win the cup, there'd be a surprisingly high number choose cup
I doubt anyone would now
The Super Cup. Their version of the Charity Shield.And the Spanish Cup final was held in Saudi Arabia
Works both ways too.. Orient now in the 4th round after beating Derby on Pens. A game they would have probably had little chance in at the return leg at Pride Park
It's been reported that non-league clubs are to ask the FA from next year if they get into the third round of the Cup and get drawn against a Premier League team at Home, they would like the choice to play it at the Premier League teams ground.
I think that's a fair solution, win win all round.
While I understand non league clubs wanting the guaranteed extra money for playing games against PL teams away rather than at home, this idea detracts even more 'romance' from the cup, and would simply make progression even easier for the big PL clubs.
If ever a PL club is to get beat or made to struggle against a non league team it is going to come when PL 'superstars' are made to play away slumming it in facilities they see beneath them, and which they feel uncomfortable with, so I would rather keep things as they are and not allow clubs to give up home advantage.
Another backward step if that happensIt's been reported that non-league clubs are to ask the FA from next year if they get into the third round of the Cup and get drawn against a Premier League team at Home, they would like the choice to play it at the Premier League teams ground.
I think that's a fair solution, win win all round.
I would have taken winning the FA Cup over promotion last season. I’m not daft and understand promotion would be transformational in terms of revenue, of course. I’m assuming there are many of a certain vintage on here who have 1987 in usernames/passwords. There was a better atmosphere on Saturday than at many league games and I also think Ipswich will be a decent occasion with a chance of an upset. There’s also the opportunity to play in Europe - the one bucket thing list left to do with Cov.It's hard to describe what a huge event the FA cup used to be.
It was 'FA cup day' not just the final. Coverage started at about 10am and the whole country tuned in regardless of whether your team was involved.
Being a rare televised live game was definitely part of it.
I'd wager if someone had done a survey at the time, win the league or win the cup, there'd be a surprisingly high number choose cup
I doubt anyone would now
Another backward step if that happens
Especially as it was all according to current rules.Totally agree. I'm for them. But the idea Tamworth should sue the FA because they missed out is mental.
We have already played in Europe. Trakia Plovdiv and Bayern MunichI would have taken winning the FA Cup over promotion last season. I’m not daft and understand promotion would be transformational in terms of revenue, of course. I’m assuming there are many of a certain vintage on here who have 1987 in usernames/passwords. There was a better atmosphere on Saturday than at many league games and I also think Ipswich will be a decent occasion with a chance of an upset. There’s also the opportunity to play in Europe - the one bucket thing list left to do with Cov.
It would be the “lower” club’s choice and not compulsory.While I understand non league clubs wanting the guaranteed extra money for playing games against PL teams away rather than at home, this idea detracts even more 'romance' from the cup, and would simply make progression even easier for the big PL clubs.
If ever a PL club is to get beat or made to struggle against a non league team it is going to come when PL 'superstars' are made to play away slumming it in facilities they see beneath them, and which they feel uncomfortable with, so I would rather keep things as they are and not allow clubs to give up home advantage.
Obviously I’m aware of that but it has nothing to do with my point. I was talking about my bucket list which would involve watching Cov play in Europe. I’ve been going since ‘85.We have already played in Europe. Trakia Plovdiv and Bayern Munich
Of course, that was before Sky created football.
Fair enough, I re-read your original post before seeing this one and realised that’s probably what you meant. It wasn’t clear and unambiguous though. If you had put that it is “my one” bucket list rather than “the one” bucket list left then it would have been obvious.Obviously I’m aware of that but it has nothing to do with my point. I was talking about my bucket list which would involve watching Cov play in Europe. I’ve been going since ‘85.
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