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Expectations for next season (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Jimmy Hill's Chin
  • Start date Dec 3, 2011
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Jimmy Hill's Chin

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  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #1
Assuming we are in League One. We still have no money (SISU maybe still here, maybe not). We have a new, inexperienced manager eg Carsley. We lose Clingan, Juke and Cranie but otherwise the squad is similar to now.

How do people realistically expect us to do? I'd say maybe halfway and I think that may be optimistic.
 
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Regis87

Active Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #2
Just look where Plymouth are and that is us Dec 2012
 
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Jimmy Hill's Chin

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #3
Regis87 said:
Just look where Plymouth are and that is us Dec 2012
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I'm pretty negative about the future but I'd like to think this scenario is still avoidable.
 
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Glen

Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #4
Yeah in dec 2012 we can only be bottom of legaue 1 and they are bottom of league 2
 

SkyBlue

New Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #5
I think we'll probably be around 10th-14th in League One
 

Gaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #6
I think it's just too difficult to say where we will be until we sort the off field problems out.
 

ICHAN

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #7
Struggling, I don't think it will be as easy as some thing it might be, thats why I want this team/club to fight no matter what it takes to stay in this league even by 1 point if thats all it takes at least we will have survived this damn awful season.
 
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Regis87

Active Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #8
Good point Glen ,
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #9
We'll all still be here, still moaning and still hoping SISU will go. The "stars" and the kids will be gone, the outlook bleaker and we'll be a league lower. I find no crumb of comfort in any of this.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #10
we will be bottom half

McDonald and Platt up top.

Am hoping that Cody has a decent pre season, cause not having a pre season this year apparently means he can NEVER start a game,
 
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jagman

Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #11
Expectations for next season ?.....NONE.
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 3, 2011
  • #12
We go down and still have Sisu in control expect another relegation battle in league 1
 

TheHellion

New Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #13
I'm not sure how to go about setting aims for next season. I'm sorry to say I certainly don't see any instant return to the Championship. I have a feeling if we go down (as is looking more and more likely), then it could be just the beginning of a long spiral downwards. In the very least, I'd hope we could crumble together a top half finish in League 1, but that depends on budget, who's in charge on the pitch, and who we have left to put on the pitch. Sorry to say I have low expectations for next season, be it in Championship or League 1 respectively.
 

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

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  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #14
I expect to be a coventry fan. I expect me and my brother will be sitting side by side drinking a flask of whiskey laced coffee at half time and moan about the smoking ban. Kane will be eating a ridiculously large hotdog and ketchup will be dripping off his nose. I expect spending a little longer in the casino than intended. I expect I will nearly be knocked over crossing the dual carrigeway because I can't be bothered to use the subway or bridge provided. I expect we will enter into in-depth match analysis on the way home and find the answer to all City's woes that won't make sense the next day. I expect we'll try a quicker route home that actually takes longer. I expect we will get half-way home before I phone my wife and ask for a lift, at least three times (success rate is 1 in3).

I expect after all is said I done that I wouldn't support any other team.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #15
I expect to go to some grounds I have never been to before.

I expect to be optimistic at the start of the season

The reat depends on wether or not we still have SISU
 

Disorganised1

New Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #16
And they said he was mad !


I'll have what he's drinking.

City 'till I die
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #17
I expect the cash flow situation will be a lot better since City will no longer have to pay Championship-level players' wages. I just hope this isn't cancelled out by the need to pay yet another ex-manager.
 
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bulkingtonskyblues

New Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #18
i expect us to be a midtable side , gutted, sisu are to blame but thorn is an absoute joke, has he told us how we have outplayed pompey yet
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #19
I think we'll "do a Scunthorpe" and be around 16th-20th in L1; we'll be warming-up for the January Transfer window, when SISU will sell the final remaining half-decent players to send us spiralling into the relegation zone by February. By this stage the pressure will be mounting on rookie manager Lee Carsley, who will be fired and replaced with the man who the board hail as "the fans choice", Sky Blue Sam. The fan will be non-plussed, claiming "I don't get it...I voted for Eric Black..", and he will refuse to renew his ST.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #20
dutchman said:
I expect the cash flow situation will be a lot better since City will no longer have to pay Championship-level players' wages. I just hope this isn't cancelled out by the need to pay yet another ex-manager.
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It depends how many players have contracts that pay same salaries no matter what the division. Champ salaries are twice or more times the size of those in L1. Also L1 income from TV & gates will be much lower too, so the whole operation has to be scaled down.

I would imagine SISU are only re-signing players with relegation terms, so I think Bell, Baker & Sheff have accepted such deals & when we are relegated they will get a hefty pay cut, which possibly explains why they are such long term deals.

Any contracts from the Ranson era may not have such terms, I'm pretty sure Freddy won't but he will go at end of season anyhow. No way Juke or Keogh will sign one like that, they have all the cards.
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #21
dutchman said:
I expect the cash flow situation will be a lot better since City will no longer have to pay Championship-level players' wages. I just hope this isn't cancelled out by the need to pay yet another ex-manager.
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You do realise we'll lose around £4m in premier league payments,sponsorship, tv rights, etc and that's before we lose and 1-2k off the gate receipts.
 

torchomatic

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  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #22
I think we should concentrate on this season, to be honest.
 

sky_blue_up_north

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  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #23
Mid table at best, but we could go straight down if we lose most of our best players because SISU just won't invest. I'm wonder how season ticket holders the club will lose at the end of this season, I'll still be there, but lots of people around me have already said they won't. I expect the average gate to be around 8k and lower for quite a few games, with the exception of some the bigger clubs in Division, like the Shefield clubs if the don't come up. It paints a gloomy picture with a constant downward spiral.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #24
Wasn't it the ancient Mayans who predicted the world will end in Dec 2012? So who cares where we are in twelve months time!
 

WillieStanley

New Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #25
Cody will tear apart League 1... ROD may do as well!
 

Marty

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  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #26
Double relegation is on the cards. The majority of this team won't be here next season, so it's vital the team is sold and replaced in January to give us the best possible chance next season. If we leave it till the summer then we'll leave it late and sell players in the last week of the transfer window, so it gives us an excuse not to replace them.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #27
Marty said:
Double relegation is on the cards. The majority of this team won't be here next season, so it's vital the team is sold and replaced in January to give us the best possible chance next season. If we leave it till the summer then we'll leave it late and sell players in the last week of the transfer window, so it gives us an excuse not to replace them.
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Marty i really hope none of this team are here next year, they got us into this bloody situation. We will lose Jukebox and apart from Bigi,Thomas, and Christie i hope the rest of them fuck off anyway.
The word Expectations i think means, what do you think something positive might happen in the future, so my expectations are Zilch, nothing absolutely nothing.
All i want is for those so called professionals who play for my club, to at least fight and show passion for 1 and a half hours on a saturday . I am not calling for us to play this way or that way but all i ask of them is to stop showing disrespect to my club by playing like 11 strangers who play for a pub team who could'nt give a toss who they play for as long as they get there £5000 or so every week.
Fight & Passion and respect to the shirt of this once great club, thats what i expect.

The Rev
 
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Marty

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  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #28
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Marty i really hope none of this team are here next year, they got us into this bloody situation. We will lose Jukebox and apart from Bigi,Thomas, and Christie i hope the rest of them fuck off anyway.
The word Expectations i think means, what do you think something positive might happen in the future, so my expectations are Zilch, nothing absolutely nothing.
All i want is for those so called professionals who play for my club, to at least fight and show passion for 1 and a half hours on a saturday . I am not calling for us to play this way or that way but all i ask of them is to stop showing disrespect to my club by playing like 11 strangers who play for a pub team who could'nt give a toss who they play for as long as they get there £5000 or so every week.
Fight & Passion and respect to the shirt of this once great club, thats what i expect.

The Rev
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Split this into two. Bold bit first.

completely agree. I don't want the likes of Baker, Bell & McSheffrey mooching around, putting in zero effort then that clueless clown Thorn telling me how fantastic they are because one pass they made didn't fly into the stands.

What i was trying to get at is, that the bigger named player, Lukas, Clingan, Craine and Keogh are all sold sooner rather then later to give us the best chance in the league one campgain, leaving it to the last week of the summer transfer window will only give an excuse to SISU for pocketing the money and saying we had no time to bring anybody in, i'm kind of deluded to think any money from player sales will go onto other players but whatever.

second part.
I think thats all any of us want, a bit of fight and passion for the shirt. For to long we have had players infecting our club. To many unwilling to go up a level and just happy to plod along just doing enough. Something is seriously wrong at the core of this club, If i were to buy the club tomorrow, every single member of staff would be handed their notice, from the manager, right down to the kit man and tea lady.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #29
Marty , i am sorry if you thought i was not agreeing with you, because i actually agree with every word you said, and have further said in you last post.
I'm totally with you on this and if you bought the club tomorrow it would be just what i do ,but keep the academy personnel as they seem to be going in the right direction.
Lets hope either me or you and one or two others on here win the lottery soon, actually very soon before we disgrace ourselves even more.

The Rev
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #30
Jack Griffin said:
I would imagine SISU are only re-signing players with relegation terms, so I think Bell, Baker & Sheff have accepted such deals & when we are relegated they will get a hefty pay cut, which possibly explains why they are such long term deals.
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Given Tango's comments about relegation being a disaster, I don't think they have. I think you are crediting them with too much common sense!
 
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EleanorRigby

New Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #31
Don't know what to expect. I look at the likes of Plymouth, Bradford City and Luton with concern then at Norwich and Southampton with hope and there's the likes of Blackpool. Burnley. Swansea and even Fulham who have all been amongst the downbeats. Then you look at AFC Wimbledon and their miraculous return to the Football League so there is hope. My first hope is the seeing off of SISU only then can we mount a return to some sort of better things.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #32
Don't forget Crewe, Grimsby and Stockport! I think Crewe is probably our role-model, sadly.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #33
I cannot see any real hope. Even if there are new investors how much money can realistically go into the team. If the manager really is not too blame and these players are really that bad they would all need changing and that is just not realistic. Also the few good ones we have will be gone and we will be stuck with the poorer players on long-term contracts. I see crowds falling away very quickly after any novelty value has worn off. I can just picture the scene in a years' time - Tuesday night in December 2-0 down to Crawley Town. People who suggest relegation will be a good thing need certifying.
It wouldn't surprise me if SISU took us into administraton in the summer and we start with a penalty in which case it's another relegation battle. In 2 years time we will have local derbies with Burton and Hereford - it could be that bad.
 
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The soothsayer

New Member
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #34
How can we possibly compete with the financial muscle of crawley?
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Dec 4, 2011
  • #35
kduffy said:
........ In 2 years time we will have local derbies with Burton and Hereford - it could be that bad.
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I was thinking more in the lines of Tamworth and Beduff Utd!
 
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