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  • Start date Aug 22, 2023
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rob9872

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #456
ptr said:
It’s a mess we all know that.

But the prats on Twitter arguing with the admin. Christ.
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Tbf the admin is the mouthpiece of the club and the only way of communicating. I was given a customer services email address and you receive a generic response saying they will answer within 2 weeks!
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #457
Evo1883 said:
Anyway , was the shop nice?
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It's a big improvement on the old shop. The changing rooms (finally you can try things on) were probably the nicest part, except the doors are too big so don't shut. Still, you can't have everything...
 
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pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #458
Evo1883 said:
Was you going to go and get one ?
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Not tomorrow, but would have if they were on sale Saturday.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #459
samccov1987 said:
Because people who have already paid and did so in the belief their orders would be supplied first haven’t received them.

I also suspect that as people still haven’t had dispatch emails that the stock still isn’t available.
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Out of the clubs hands.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #460
Doug is saying the majority of preorders have been fulfilled. That simply can’t be true, unless they are prioritising customers who don’t post on this forum or Twitter.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #461
MalcSB said:
Doug is saying the majority of preorders have been fulfilled. That simply can’t be true, unless they are prioritising customers who don’t post on this forum or Twitter.
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Or that twitter is a noisy minority, as always.
 
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Balli001

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  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #462
MalcSB said:
Doug is saying the majority of preorders have been fulfilled. That simply can’t be true, unless they are prioritising customers who don’t post on this forum or Twitter.
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He also says they wont sell any shirts in the store before all pre orders are fulfilled........
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #463
pusbccfc said:
How is it the right decision to turn down people wanting to spend £50 tomorrow morning?
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We need to maximise revenues (as soon as we’ve fulfilled the pre-ordered revenues)
 
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OldBedrocker

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2023
  • #464
MalcSB said:
Doug is saying the majority of preorders have been fulfilled. That simply can’t be true, unless they are prioritising customers who don’t post on this forum or Twitter.
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I have had no emails despite ordering on the release date. 2 mates have theirs but another who got the despatch email a week ago saying delivery last Friday or Saturday still hasn’t received anything.
 
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stgeorge1966

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #465
Could be another week then all ffs
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #466
pusbccfc said:
Out of the clubs hands.
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Which bit is out of the clubs hands, exactly?

The comms is very much in control of the club, as is the process by which they release the stock (when it finally arrives).

It seems fair to me that you release first to the people who've already paid for stuff, and were promised it ages ago.
 
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pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #467
duffer said:
Which bit is out of the clubs hands, exactly?

The comms is very much in control of the club, as is the process by which they release the stock (when it finally arrives).

It seems fair to me that you release first to the people who've already paid for stuff, and were promised it ages ago.
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If a delivery van breaks down or Hummel send shirts late, I'm not sure what the club can do.

The comms is absolutely an issue but people would be angry regardless.
 
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Macca1987

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #468
pusbccfc said:
If a delivery van breaks down or Hummel send shirts late, I'm not sure what the club can do.

The comms is absolutely an issue but people would be angry regardless.
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I wouldn't be angry if I got a sensible 'in time' reply from the club, rather than 8 days of an automated system saying 'pending review'
 
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skybluelee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #469
Has anybody here who ordered on the 14th had a despatch email yet? Surely if they have been 'working tirelessly' to clear the backlog since the middle of this week some of us must have had some joy?
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #470
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pusbccfc said:
If a delivery van breaks down or Hummel send shirts late, I'm not sure what the club can do.

The comms is absolutely an issue but people would be angry regardless.
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Maybe not having a ton of shirts sitting out for a shop opening might help. letting the 200 buy shirts of the rack when pre orders havent been fulfilled is asking for trouble.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #471
jordan210 said:
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Maybe not having a ton of shirts sitting out for a shop opening might help. letting the 200 buy shirts of the rack when pre orders havent been fulfilled is asking for trouble.
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It's a completely different batch of shirts.

Why should the club turn down money because a delivery van hasn't arrived?

Because of that view, people cannot buy shirts tomorrow when the club have them ready in the shop.
 
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jordan210

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #472
pusbccfc said:
It's a completely different batch of shirts.

Why should the club turn down money because a delivery van hasn't arrived?

Because of that view, people cannot buy shirts tomorrow when the club have them ready in the shop.
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I doubt it was a separate batch. Someones made a cock up with the ordering and its arse covering time.

The pre ordered shirts supposedly arrived on Tuesday yet have any been dispatched ?. they could have swapped them for the shop stock


As someone who has worked in retail. you want to prioritise pre orders. refunds and unhappy customers cost a lot more than selling a few to make a quick buck.

The whole saga could have been avoided with better and honest coms from the club.
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #473
pusbccfc said:
It's a completely different batch of shirts.

Why should the club turn down money because a delivery van hasn't arrived?

Because of that view, people cannot buy shirts tomorrow when the club have them ready in the shop.
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This is what i dont get

The club themselves have tweeted shop stock is seperate

So why can we not just go and buy one? They will literally just be sat there
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #474
jordan210 said:
I doubt it was a separate batch. Someones made a cock up with the ordering and its arse covering time.

The pre ordered shirts supposedly arrived on Tuesday yet have any been dispatched ?. they could have swapped them for the shop stock


As someone who has worked in retail. you want to prioritise pre orders. refunds and unhappy customers cost a lot more than selling a few to make a quick buck.

The whole saga could have been avoided with better and honest coms from the club.
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It is. When you order something from an online store, they don't collect it from the rails and package it up. It's a separate entity.

Those who have order will have theirs delivered, hence why they can't give you one from the store tomorrow. You'd end up with two.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #475
Saddlebrains said:
This is what i dont get

The club themselves have tweeted shop stock is seperate

So why can we not just go and buy one? They will literally just be sat there
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It's literally because people moaned unfortunately. To keep the pre-order brigade happy, they've taken them off sale.
 
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jordan210

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #476
pusbccfc said:
It is. When you order something from an online store, they don't collect it from the rails and package it up. It's a separate entity.

Those who have order will have theirs delivered, hence why they can't give you one from the store tomorrow. You'd end up with two.
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The club shop isn't listed as a separate entity. For a single store it's quite common to share stock.

They club has no dispatched yet. so could easily do a voucher swap for customers wanting to collect rather than now wait for the post.

It really isn't difficult. retailers do it all the time.

I do think it's stupid taking them off sale.
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #477
pusbccfc said:
If a delivery van breaks down or Hummel send shirts late, I'm not sure what the club can do.

The comms is absolutely an issue but people would be angry regardless.
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In my experience, the way to minimise customer issues is to get the comms right. It's about being open, honest, and fair to people, especially when things have gone wrong.

The club consistently screw up on this, and people are understandably annoyed. Thinking people should just shut up and put up with it because they're supporters isn't living in the real world, imho.

Season ticket holders and people who are willing to commit to advance orders for kit are your key customers, and deserve nothing less than the best service.

The club don't need defending, and people with reasonable complaints shouldn't be criticised.

The club need to be aware there's an issue and they need to put a proper process in place to stop it happening in the future. It's definitely not out of their hands and the problem here is more than just a van breaking down.
 
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jordan210

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #478
The bit that doesn't make sense timeline wise is

If the lorry had arrived on Friday. I doubt anything would have been processed till Tuesday (unless it arrived lunchtime at latest).

So dispatch late Tuesday/Wednesday. With delivery Friday at the earliest. So the club store would have had them at the same time.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #479
jordan210 said:
The club shop isn't listed as a separate entity. For a single store it's quite common to share stock.

They club has no dispatched yet. so could easily do a voucher swap for customers wanting to collect rather than now wait for the post.

It really isn't difficult. retailers do it all the time.

I do think it's stupid taking them off sale.
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The shirts in the lorry will not be the shirts they have in store. Equally, they are not the shirts the players will be wearing.
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #480
I'm gonna head down and just try and buy it anyway

What they gonna do if you rock up with say 3 shirts and want to hand over £150? No? I highly doubt that
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #481
skybluelee said:
Has anybody here who ordered on the 14th had a despatch email yet? Surely if they have been 'working tirelessly' to clear the backlog since the middle of this week some of us must have had some joy?
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Nothing for us but i do know someone that ordered on the 14th and received their shirts. I think they arrived last week, regardless there are certainly some being delivered.
 
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duffer

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #482
pusbccfc said:
It's literally because people moaned unfortunately. To keep the pre-order brigade happy, they've taken them off sale.
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The 'pre order brigade' are your low cost, high value, loyal customers, who are paying up front for stuff.

Pissing them off is stupid, expensive, and probably impacts an easy income stream next season when some will hold off buying this way. This could clearly have been handled far, far better. I don't get the endless need to make excuses for the club.
 
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rob9872

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #483
pusbccfc said:
The shirts in the lorry will not be the shirts they have in store. Equally, they are not the shirts the players will be wearing.
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Correct, bur where are those shirts now? Where did the lorry break down? Presumably a replacement lorry sent swap the stock over and complete the onward journey. If it was genuine the replacement vehicle should have been with them by the time the comms came out 4 days later, which means it was total bollocks.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #484
pusbccfc said:
The shirts in the lorry will not be the shirts they have in store. Equally, they are not the shirts the players will be wearing.
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Come on doug enough now
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #485
Might go down and just try buy it
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #486
I can’t even find an order acknowledgement email from 14 July despite the money having gone from my account.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #487
rob9872 said:
Correct, bur where are those shirts now? Where did the lorry break down? Presumably a replacement lorry sent swap the stock over and complete the onward journey. If it was genuine the replacement vehicle should have been with them by the time the comms came out 4 days later, which means it was total bollocks.
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Not sure but they are not the shirts sat on the rails in the club store
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #488
duffer said:
The 'pre order brigade' are your low cost, high value, loyal customers, who are paying up front for stuff.

Pissing them off is stupid, expensive, and probably impacts an easy income stream next season when some will hold off buying this way. This could clearly have been handled far, far better. I don't get the endless need to make excuses for the club.
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Absolutely but let's make not pretend the reason people cannot buy shirts tomorrow is because of the sheer outrage by those who pre-ordered.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #489
Saddlebrains said:
I'm gonna head down and just try and buy it anyway

What they gonna do if you rock up with say 3 shirts and want to hand over £150? No? I highly doubt that
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They will tell you that you cannot buy it until the fans who pre-ordered get theirs.

When you ask why you can't just spend £150 on 3 shirts that are in front of you, they'll explain that they'll get abused at on twitter.
 
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shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 1, 2023
  • #490
skybluelee said:
Has anybody here who ordered on the 14th had a despatch email yet? Surely if they have been 'working tirelessly' to clear the backlog since the middle of this week some of us must have had some joy?
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Nope, just had an email (I have sent lots of people lots of emails!!!) apologising for not sending my order - and they listed an order that wasn't even mine! (Rather worryingly!!!!!)

I have two from 14th July still outstanding and processing!

Despite the comms from the club last night stating the majority of orders had been fulfilled, I don't know anybody, or have seen anybody over Twitter or FB (or on here) that have had a despatch since "truck -gate" on Tuesday!!!

As I've said before, i think the club are being shafted (and lied to!) by the retail partner!!
 
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