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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #6,091
CovLad94 said:
Wilson-Esbrand going to Reims on loan
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Hope they haven’t signed him to take corners.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #6,092
Maatsen scored 2 for Chelsea v Wrexham last night, got played up top on the left wing. Pochettino sounded impressed so will be interesting to see what happens with him, still can't see him breaking into the first team. Might be one of the back ups for Chillwell at best.
 

Jesse Carver

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #6,093
SkyBlueSoul said:
Maatsen scored 2 for Chelsea v Wrexham last night, got played up top on the left wing. Pochettino sounded impressed so will be interesting to see what happens with him, still can't see him breaking into the first team. Might be one of the back ups for Chillwell at best.
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West Ham have been linked with him if Cresswell goes to Wolves
 

Jesse Carver

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #6,094
LastGarrison said:
With the rumours of 350k a week tax free in wages, I don't blame him...........
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700k a week and all tax free - as long as he stays out of the country for a couple of years.

From the Torygraph:-

With stars such as Jordan Henderson offered deals thought to be worth £700,000 per week tax-free in the Saudi Pro League, seeing the full amount will rely on remaining in the Middle East for almost two years.

Those leaving the UK to work abroad must remain out of the country for a full tax year or pay 45 per cent on their earnings if they return before. It means the players joining the Saudi Pro League now must stay there until April 2025.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #6,095
SkyBlueSoul said:
Maatsen scored 2 for Chelsea v Wrexham last night, got played up top on the left wing. Pochettino sounded impressed so will be interesting to see what happens with him, still can't see him breaking into the first team. Might be one of the back ups for Chillwell at best.
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Ultimately they finished in the bottom half of the table last season, you'd argue that he should be as close as anybody really
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #6,096
Jesse Carver said:
700k a week and all tax free - as long as he stays out of the country for a couple of years.

From the Torygraph:-

With stars such as Jordan Henderson offered deals thought to be worth £700,000 per week tax-free in the Saudi Pro League, seeing the full amount will rely on remaining in the Middle East for almost two years.

Those leaving the UK to work abroad must remain out of the country for a full tax year or pay 45 per cent on their earnings if they return before. It means the players joining the Saudi Pro League now must stay there until April 2025.
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I presume Southgate won't be picking him for England anymore then!!
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #6,097
Legia Sky Blue said:
I presume Southgate won't be picking him for England anymore then!!
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With the money these players are earning, they wouldn't give a F**K about England.
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Jul 20, 2023
  • #6,098


@CovLad94 mentioned it yesterday but Romano has tweeted the confirmation today.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jul 22, 2023
  • #6,099
Ben Stevenson to Portsmouth
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Jul 23, 2023
  • #6,100
Waghorn came on as a second half sub in Derbys 3-0 win over Stoke yesterday. Rose played the last 20 mins for Stoke.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 23, 2023
  • #6,101
skyblueelephant76 said:
Waghorn came on as a second half sub in Derbys 3-0 win over Stoke yesterday. Rose played the last 20 mins for Stoke.
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It was a testimonial, Waghorn was one of a few ex players turning out for Derby.

Bit embarrassing for Stoke if they put out a full strength team!
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Jul 23, 2023
  • #6,102
PVA said:
It was a testimonial, Waghorn was one of a few ex players turning out for Derby.

Bit embarrassing for Stoke if they put out a full strength team!
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That makes sense about Waghorn. Stoke had their first team playing with first games for Rose, Ben Pearson and Daniel Johnson.
 

Sbarcher

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  • Jul 23, 2023
  • #6,103
Marosi, Shipley and Bayliss played yesterday against a Championship team and came away with a draw.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 23, 2023
  • #6,104
PVA said:
It was a testimonial, Waghorn was one of a few ex players turning out for Derby.

Bit embarrassing for Stoke if they put out a full strength team!
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Not embarrassing at all. Results in pre season matches are irrelevant.
 
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Frostie

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  • Jul 25, 2023
  • #6,105
Jordan Willis on trial at Shrewsbury.
Would be great to see him rebuild his career.
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Jul 25, 2023
  • #6,106
Vik scored his 1st for SL.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Jul 25, 2023
  • #6,107
Not a player, but just saw that Tommy Widdrington our ex-head of recruitment is now managing Aldershot Town of the national league.
 
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junglej13

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #6,108
Baka gone to to Dundee on loan
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #6,109
Just watched a bit of Forest v Leeds preseason game. Panzo played for Forest and they lost 2-0.
 

CovLad94

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,110
Todd kane training with Chelsea whilst he finds a club
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,111
The players we released seem to struggling to get clubs.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,112
Terry Gibson's perm said:
The players we released seem to struggling to get clubs.
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Many out of contract players
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,113
Terry Gibson's perm said:
The players we released seem to struggling to get clubs.
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Some will get snapped up as the transfer market speeds up. There are a few players which have left that may struggle however.

If it is true Dabo is failing medicals then that's pretty shocking on our behalf that we were giving minutes to someone not fit enough.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,114
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Some will get snapped up as the transfer market speeds up. There are a few players which have left that may struggle however.

If it is true Dabo is failing medicals then that's pretty shocking on our behalf that we were giving minutes to someone not fit enough.
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Bring him back to be backup, he was a big figure in the dressing room!
 
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Tomh111

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,115
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Some will get snapped up as the transfer market speeds up. There are a few players which have left that may struggle however.

If it is true Dabo is failing medicals then that's pretty shocking on our behalf that we were giving minutes to someone not fit enough.
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Thats not how medicals work, it's not about being fit.

Its about the risk of injury across the length of a contract - if he has a degenerative hip condition, then a team isn't likely to offer him a multi year contract for fear of him not playing through the tail of it.

Its a risk management process for clubs. There's a twitter clip that does the rounds every now and then of the old arsenal doctor/physio talking through the Overmars transfer.

They knew he had bad knees, that they would get x amount of good years from him - so they sold him after that knowing he was likely to start degrading.
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,116
Terry Gibson's perm said:
The players we released seem to struggling to get clubs.
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Sean MaGuire looks like he is off to Carlisle
 

Nick

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,117
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Some will get snapped up as the transfer market speeds up. There are a few players which have left that may struggle however.

If it is true Dabo is failing medicals then that's pretty shocking on our behalf that we were giving minutes to someone not fit enough.
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How many times was he on the pitch when he couldn't even walk?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,118
Tomh111 said:
Thats not how medicals work, it's not about being fit.

Its about the risk of injury across the length of a contract - if he has a degenerative hip condition, then a team isn't likely to offer him a multi year contract for fear of him not playing through the tail of it.

Its a risk management process for clubs. There's a twitter clip that does the rounds every now and then of the old arsenal doctor/physio talking through the Overmars transfer.

They knew he had bad knees, that they would get x amount of good years from him - so they sold him after that knowing he was likely to start degrading.
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This degenerative condition is obviously impacting him now, regardless of any 'club medical procedure'.

Some of our fans get extremely sensitive about Dabo. It's a bit boring and usually the same people doing it. He was nowhere near good enough for the best part of two years, and clearly had something wrong with him, yet still got minutes. That isn't right. If another team has turned him down, then that just adds weight to the questions around why he was allowed to play for us so recently.

I wish him well, and that's despite missing the penalty which is hard to take, but these are valid points.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,119
Be honest, I’d have Dabo back if it meant Gus stayed.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Jul 28, 2023
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
This degenerative condition is obviously impacting him now, regardless of any 'club medical procedure'.

Some of our fans get extremely sensitive about Dabo. It's a bit boring and usually the same people doing it. He was nowhere near good enough for the best part of two years, and clearly had something wrong with him, yet still got minutes. That isn't right. If another team has turned him down, then that just adds weight to the questions around why he was allowed to play for us so recently.

I wish him well, and that's despite missing the penalty which is hard to take, but these are valid points.
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I've not even defended him, he didn't have a future with us on ability.

Nobody knows whether there is an issue, nobody knows if he failed a medical etc - yet you've now projected that he wasn't fit enough and shouldn't have been on the pitch based on rumour.

I just pointed out that regardless of whether it's true or not, that a medical isn't to assess ability - its a risk management exercise.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,121
Tomh111 said:
I've not even defended him, he didn't have a future with us on ability.

Nobody knows whether there is an issue, nobody knows if he failed a medical etc - yet you've now projected that he wasn't fit enough and shouldn't have been on the pitch based on rumour.

I just pointed out that regardless of whether it's true or not, that a medical isn't to assess ability - its a risk management exercise.
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Projecting based on rumour? Give me a break. As per the post above, there were several games when he could barely walk.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Jul 28, 2023
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Projecting based on rumour? Give me a break. As per the post above, there were several games when he could barely walk.
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Are you trolling? Or just an idiot?
 

junglej13

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,123
Ryan Giles gone to Luton on a permanent deal
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,124
Tomh111 said:
Are you trolling? Or just an idiot?
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Continue to throw the insults if you want, I think it is a pretty widely shared viewpoint that many games he has played in recent seasons, he has looked to be struggling and not moving well at all. Games he has played well in are not in abundance either.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #6,125
No insult, is was a question. But just to be clear, you think that in the biggest game in our recent t history, Mark and Adi chose to put a player on the pitch who couldn't move?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Continue to throw the insults if you want, I think it is a pretty widely shared viewpoint that many games he has played in recent seasons, he has looked to be struggling and not moving well at all. Games he has played well in are not in abundance either.
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