Hope that proper justice is delivered whilst they’re in prison !
Another absolutely horrendous case. A father beating his daughter to death with a cricket bat and iron bar.
Behind Sara Sharif’s smile was a life of violence and torture
The 10-year-old was sassy, bubbly and dreamed of being on X Factor, but behind closed doors she was brutally beaten. Why could no-one save her?www.bbc.co.uk
It does tend to be, but with each case like this I’m increasingly of the view that capital punishment is justified. So much cruelty over such a prolonged timeframe and guilt is unquestionable.Hope that proper justice is delivered whilst they’re in prison !
It demeans us he’s already demeaned himselfIt does tend to be, but with each case like this I’m increasingly of the view that capital punishment is justified. So much cruelty over such a prolonged timeframe and guilt is unquestionable.
Just reading Steve chalkes manifesto for hope he says the same thingApologies to anyone this might offend but I just don't think 'home schooling' should be allowed.
It might, but I feel so much anger reading about what he did I cannot help the feeling. He should pay for his crime with his life.It demeans us he’s already demeaned himself
For somebody who used to be a teacher your views on education are wrong a lot.So much there. The use of the hijab to hide abuse. The beatings that likely are normal in the parents culture. The homeschooling used to hide the abuse.
I’ve long supported a ban on home schooling. It’s entirely the preserve of weirdos not wanting society to moderate their weirdness and 10/10 the weirdness isn’t good weirdness.
Completely understoodIt might, but I feel so much anger reading about what he did I cannot help the feeling. He should pay for his crime with his life.
For somebody who used to be a teacher your views on education are wrong a lot.
I don't doubt there's some weirdos who home school, it isn't everybody though.
So much there. The use of the hijab to hide abuse. The beatings that likely are normal in the parents culture. The homeschooling used to hide the abuse.
I’ve long supported a ban on home schooling. It’s entirely the preserve of weirdos not wanting society to moderate their weirdness and 10/10 the weirdness isn’t good weirdness.
Come on! Calling for a ban because one pair of awful humans manipulated it? That's the worst kind of kneejerk policy making. jfc
I don't love the idea of homeschooling but not everyone does it for the reasons you talk about. Also, choice is a thing. I'd argue people being indoctrinated into religions or attending religion-led schools does a lot more harm to kids and the world than a small number that get homeschooled.
Child abuse isn’t a choice I respect. Sorry.
You're equating home schooling with child abuse? Have you lost your f*cking mind the last few weeks? wtf. Done talking to you about this is you're going to use rhetoric like that. 'Kinnell.
Is that really the case - that only a “tiny minority” of home schooled kids don’t suffer abuse?I seem to remember you’ve got family who home school. I don’t know your circumstances maybe you’re in the tiny minority it’s not abusive, but the fact is it facilitates huge amounts of child abuse and the drawbacks significantly outweigh the benefits on a societal level.
I know a couple of people who aren't religious or weird but just got fed up with the school system failing their kids over and over again.Yeah it is. Religious weirdos or weirdos with strange views about what kids should be taught. There are very few, if any, kids that shouldn’t be in some form of schooling. If you’ve come to the conclusion on your own that yours is one of them you are probably wrong.
I know a couple of people who aren't religious or weird but just got fed up with the school system failing their kids over and over again.
I thought about it years ago, no religion or anything just sick of shit schools and shit teachers.
I don't doubt there are weirdos, religious nuts and hippies who do it, it's not everybody though. Let's face it b that a lot of the time with kids like Daniel Pelka went to school and the teachers knew, social services knew but his parents still killed him.
If it was a choice between sending my daughter to the first primary school she was in and the secondary school I worked in for a bit or home school. I'd home school.
In a thread where home schooling was primarily used to hide the abuse. Yeah I am.
Your kid has a right to an education. Most people cannot provide this. They have a right to a social life and generally a life away from you to grow up.
I seem to remember you’ve got family who home school. I don’t know your circumstances maybe you’re in the tiny minority it’s not abusive, but the fact is it facilitates huge amounts of child abuse and the drawbacks significantly outweigh the benefits on a societal level.
Same reason I’m pro gun legislation, sure a few people might suffer minor harm or inconvenience but it’s nothing compared to the huge amount of harm saved. Very very few parents can offer their child the equivalent to a school on their own. Sadly a much larger number delude themselves into thinking they can.
No one in my family has been home schooled. I know one person who's made that choice for one of their children.
Now you're drawing comparisons with gun control. Really feels like you're windmilling at this point so I wanna leave it there.
Well in a way it very well could be.You're equating home schooling with child abuse? Have you lost your f*cking mind the last few weeks? wtf. Done talking to you about this is you're going to use rhetoric like that. 'Kinnell.
I know a mum who home schools believes fluoride poisons her children so doesn’t drink tap water
In short a fruit bat
There's plenty of home schooling clubs nowadays, there's a great science one I see.Well in a way it very well could be.
How many of those home-schooled kids miss on on personal and social development because they're never around anyone else? And how many parents are actual able to provide a child with a good, balanced education? It's basically creating a human that will not be able to function in the real world.
And even with those that have problems such as autism, where a regular schooling may not be best for them SEND is still far more likely to benefit that person longer term than home-schooling.
Torture themI say I don’t really agree with the death penalty, but then I look at the Sara Sharif case and genuinely think what is the point of keeping the perpetrators alive
Just two awful human beings
Who ?Torture them
The people who put sara sharif through painWho ?
Sorry who’d torture them and what impact would it have on them do you think?The people who put sara sharif through pain
I think it’s safe to assume they will.Sorry who’d torture them and what impact would it have on them do you think?
I understand wanting them to suffer
Sorry who’d torture them and what impact would it have on them do you think?
I understand wanting them to suffer
You may be right about that but when families in 2024 appear to be having to fight harder to access SEND, is it prudent to remove the ability to home school children?And even with those that have problems such as autism, where a regular schooling may not be best for them SEND is still far more likely to benefit that person longer term than home-schooling.
I agree entirely that access to SEND is nowhere near as good as it should or needs to be and so there may be a point there, but that's an act of desperation rather than a good choiceYou may be right about that but when families in 2024 appear to be having to fight harder to access SEND, is it prudent to remove the ability to home school children?
Families of children with special educational needs face battle for support - BBC News
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