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Farmer Jim

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #1
This is the first time I`ve ever come onto another teams forum so bear with me !

I just wanted to write a little something about Frank`s time at Everton and try to allay some of the fears that I`ve read about him as a manager.

As every man and his dog knows, we`re a clown show of a club and owned by an absolute clueless lunatic, who was the only person on the planet, to think it would be a good idea to appoint possibly the most hated manager of all time by Everton fans, Rafael Benitez.

Even worse, Benitez was given carte blanche by the idiot owner, to start ripping the club up from the inside out, which included getting rid of back room staff who were part of the fabric of the club and also getting rid of any players who he didn`t fancy or tow the line - James Rodriguez / Luca Digne.

It wasn`t long before the club and fans was tearing itself apart, both on and off the pitch, due to Mr Benitez and eventually the idiot owner woke up and realised that relegation was a very real possibility and a big chunk of his investment with it.

Enter Super Frankie Lampard.

The first thing he did and I really can`t underestimate how quickly he did this, was he got the fans on board with him. Not with platitudes or head patting, but with his genuine desire to do what was best for the team, the fans and the club.

He was like a breath of fresh air compared to Benitez and the fans took to him straight away and the doom and gloom was replaced by a real sense of optimism.

We all knew that there was no magic wand, no money ( PSR ), as the idiot owner had allowed other managers before Frank, to spend a fortune on mediocre players, on long contracts, who either wouldn`t go or no one wanted them. So Frank had to work with what he had.

Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.

The problem with this, due to the mess other managers had got us into with signing duds, we didn`t have the players with the skills necessary to play in this system and things started to go wrong pretty quickly.

However, the fans still backed Frank to the hilt, as he was now one of us and we were in it together.

He showed that when needed to, he could be ruthless, by banishing Abdoulaye Doucoure to the U21`s for not training properly and just being an all round athletic donkey.

Even in the face of countless losses, Frank pretty much stayed loyal to his 4-3-3 system and in the end we just about stayed up with a game to spare and sadly the writng was on the wall for him.

No one rejoiced when Frank was sacked, we all knew it was coming, but we all wanted him to succeed, but to carry on trying to play 4-3-3 with such a set of limited players was only ever going to end one way for him.

He`s still looked upon very fondly at Everton, especially more so, we`ve got the Dycheosaurus at the helm now, who`s turned is into his Burnley side.

I`m hoping that his time out has given him time to reflect on his mistakes at Everton and this time he gets it right with your team.

I`ve no idea what system Robins played and the calibre of your players, as the only one I really know is ex Everton man Ellis Simms.

I wish you all the best with Frank at the helm and I can say with the utmost confidence, no matter what happens, you`ll all come to love the man.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #2
Farmer Jim said:
This is the first time I`ve ever come onto another teams forum so bear with me !

I just wanted to write a little something about Frank`s time at Everton and try to allay some of the fears that I`ve read about him as a manager.

As every man and his dog knows, we`re a clown show of a club and owned by an absolute clueless lunatic, who was the only person on the planet, to think it would be a good idea to appoint possibly the most hated manager of all time by Everton fans, Rafael Benitez.

Even worse, Benitez was given carte blanche by the idiot owner, to start ripping the club up from the inside out, which included getting rid of back room staff who were part of the fabric of the club and also getting rid of any players who he didn`t fancy or tow the line - James Rodriguez / Luca Digne.

It wasn`t long before the club and fans was tearing itself apart, both on and off the pitch, due to Mr Benitez and eventually the idiot owner woke up and realised that relegation was a very real possibility and a big chunk of his investment with it.

Enter Super Frankie Lampard.

The first thing he did and I really can`t underestimate how quickly he did this, was he got the fans on board with him. Not with platitudes or head patting, but with his genuine desire to do what was best for the team, the fans and the club.

He was like a breath of fresh air compared to Benitez and the fans took to him straight away and the doom and gloom was replaced by a real sense of optimism.

We all knew that there was no magic wand, no money ( PSR ), as the idiot owner had allowed other managers before Frank, to spend a fortune on mediocre players, on long contracts, who either wouldn`t go or no one wanted them. So Frank had to work with what he had.

Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.

The problem with this, due to the mess other managers had got us into with signing duds, we didn`t have the players with the skills necessary to play in this system and things started to go wrong pretty quickly.

However, the fans still backed Frank to the hilt, as he was now one of us and we were in it together.

He showed that when needed to, he could be ruthless, by banishing Abdoulaye Doucoure to the U21`s for not training properly and just being an all round athletic donkey.

Even in the face of countless losses, Frank pretty much stayed loyal to his 4-3-3 system and in the end we just about stayed up with a game to spare and sadly the writng was on the wall for him.

No one rejoiced when Frank was sacked, we all knew it was coming, but we all wanted him to succeed, but to carry on trying to play 4-3-3 with such a set of limited players was only ever going to end one way for him.

He`s still looked upon very fondly at Everton, especially more so, we`ve got the Dycheosaurus at the helm now, who`s turned is into his Burnley side.

I`m hoping that his time out has given him time to reflect on his mistakes at Everton and this time he gets it right with your team.

I`ve no idea what system Robins played and the calibre of your players, as the only one I really know is ex Everton man Ellis Simms.

I wish you all the best with Frank at the helm and I can say with the utmost confidence, no matter what happens, you`ll all come to love the man.
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Very interesting read. Thank you
 
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Bad Boy

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #3
Farmer Jim said:
This is the first time I`ve ever come onto another teams forum so bear with me !

I just wanted to write a little something about Frank`s time at Everton and try to allay some of the fears that I`ve read about him as a manager.

As every man and his dog knows, we`re a clown show of a club and owned by an absolute clueless lunatic, who was the only person on the planet, to think it would be a good idea to appoint possibly the most hated manager of all time by Everton fans, Rafael Benitez.

Even worse, Benitez was given carte blanche by the idiot owner, to start ripping the club up from the inside out, which included getting rid of back room staff who were part of the fabric of the club and also getting rid of any players who he didn`t fancy or tow the line - James Rodriguez / Luca Digne.

It wasn`t long before the club and fans was tearing itself apart, both on and off the pitch, due to Mr Benitez and eventually the idiot owner woke up and realised that relegation was a very real possibility and a big chunk of his investment with it.

Enter Super Frankie Lampard.

The first thing he did and I really can`t underestimate how quickly he did this, was he got the fans on board with him. Not with platitudes or head patting, but with his genuine desire to do what was best for the team, the fans and the club.

He was like a breath of fresh air compared to Benitez and the fans took to him straight away and the doom and gloom was replaced by a real sense of optimism.

We all knew that there was no magic wand, no money ( PSR ), as the idiot owner had allowed other managers before Frank, to spend a fortune on mediocre players, on long contracts, who either wouldn`t go or no one wanted them. So Frank had to work with what he had.

Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.

The problem with this, due to the mess other managers had got us into with signing duds, we didn`t have the players with the skills necessary to play in this system and things started to go wrong pretty quickly.

However, the fans still backed Frank to the hilt, as he was now one of us and we were in it together.

He showed that when needed to, he could be ruthless, by banishing Abdoulaye Doucoure to the U21`s for not training properly and just being an all round athletic donkey.

Even in the face of countless losses, Frank pretty much stayed loyal to his 4-3-3 system and in the end we just about stayed up with a game to spare and sadly the writng was on the wall for him.

No one rejoiced when Frank was sacked, we all knew it was coming, but we all wanted him to succeed, but to carry on trying to play 4-3-3 with such a set of limited players was only ever going to end one way for him.

He`s still looked upon very fondly at Everton, especially more so, we`ve got the Dycheosaurus at the helm now, who`s turned is into his Burnley side.

I`m hoping that his time out has given him time to reflect on his mistakes at Everton and this time he gets it right with your team.

I`ve no idea what system Robins played and the calibre of your players, as the only one I really know is ex Everton man Ellis Simms.

I wish you all the best with Frank at the helm and I can say with the utmost confidence, no matter what happens, you`ll all come to love the man.
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Well that's very magnanimous of you Farmer Jim, thank you.

Maybe we'll play you Toffees at your splendid looking new stadium in the near future, here's hoping.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #4
Farmer Jim said:
This is the first time I`ve ever come onto another teams forum so bear with me !

I just wanted to write a little something about Frank`s time at Everton and try to allay some of the fears that I`ve read about him as a manager.

As every man and his dog knows, we`re a clown show of a club and owned by an absolute clueless lunatic, who was the only person on the planet, to think it would be a good idea to appoint possibly the most hated manager of all time by Everton fans, Rafael Benitez.

Even worse, Benitez was given carte blanche by the idiot owner, to start ripping the club up from the inside out, which included getting rid of back room staff who were part of the fabric of the club and also getting rid of any players who he didn`t fancy or tow the line - James Rodriguez / Luca Digne.

It wasn`t long before the club and fans was tearing itself apart, both on and off the pitch, due to Mr Benitez and eventually the idiot owner woke up and realised that relegation was a very real possibility and a big chunk of his investment with it.

Enter Super Frankie Lampard.

The first thing he did and I really can`t underestimate how quickly he did this, was he got the fans on board with him. Not with platitudes or head patting, but with his genuine desire to do what was best for the team, the fans and the club.

He was like a breath of fresh air compared to Benitez and the fans took to him straight away and the doom and gloom was replaced by a real sense of optimism.

We all knew that there was no magic wand, no money ( PSR ), as the idiot owner had allowed other managers before Frank, to spend a fortune on mediocre players, on long contracts, who either wouldn`t go or no one wanted them. So Frank had to work with what he had.

Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.

The problem with this, due to the mess other managers had got us into with signing duds, we didn`t have the players with the skills necessary to play in this system and things started to go wrong pretty quickly.

However, the fans still backed Frank to the hilt, as he was now one of us and we were in it together.

He showed that when needed to, he could be ruthless, by banishing Abdoulaye Doucoure to the U21`s for not training properly and just being an all round athletic donkey.

Even in the face of countless losses, Frank pretty much stayed loyal to his 4-3-3 system and in the end we just about stayed up with a game to spare and sadly the writng was on the wall for him.

No one rejoiced when Frank was sacked, we all knew it was coming, but we all wanted him to succeed, but to carry on trying to play 4-3-3 with such a set of limited players was only ever going to end one way for him.

He`s still looked upon very fondly at Everton, especially more so, we`ve got the Dycheosaurus at the helm now, who`s turned is into his Burnley side.

I`m hoping that his time out has given him time to reflect on his mistakes at Everton and this time he gets it right with your team.

I`ve no idea what system Robins played and the calibre of your players, as the only one I really know is ex Everton man Ellis Simms.

I wish you all the best with Frank at the helm and I can say with the utmost confidence, no matter what happens, you`ll all come to love the man.
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Massive soft spot for Everton genuinely .. all the best with the ground move
 
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #5
No wonder you didn't win many games if you were playing 4-4-1

In all seriousness, thanks for the heads up.
Frank wasn't many people's first choice, but now he's here, we will get behind him and give him a fair crack of the whip.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #6
Farmer Jim said:
This is the first time I`ve ever come onto another teams forum so bear with me !

I just wanted to write a little something about Frank`s time at Everton and try to allay some of the fears that I`ve read about him as a manager.

As every man and his dog knows, we`re a clown show of a club and owned by an absolute clueless lunatic, who was the only person on the planet, to think it would be a good idea to appoint possibly the most hated manager of all time by Everton fans, Rafael Benitez.

Even worse, Benitez was given carte blanche by the idiot owner, to start ripping the club up from the inside out, which included getting rid of back room staff who were part of the fabric of the club and also getting rid of any players who he didn`t fancy or tow the line - James Rodriguez / Luca Digne.

It wasn`t long before the club and fans was tearing itself apart, both on and off the pitch, due to Mr Benitez and eventually the idiot owner woke up and realised that relegation was a very real possibility and a big chunk of his investment with it.

Enter Super Frankie Lampard.

The first thing he did and I really can`t underestimate how quickly he did this, was he got the fans on board with him. Not with platitudes or head patting, but with his genuine desire to do what was best for the team, the fans and the club.

He was like a breath of fresh air compared to Benitez and the fans took to him straight away and the doom and gloom was replaced by a real sense of optimism.

We all knew that there was no magic wand, no money ( PSR ), as the idiot owner had allowed other managers before Frank, to spend a fortune on mediocre players, on long contracts, who either wouldn`t go or no one wanted them. So Frank had to work with what he had.

Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.

The problem with this, due to the mess other managers had got us into with signing duds, we didn`t have the players with the skills necessary to play in this system and things started to go wrong pretty quickly.

However, the fans still backed Frank to the hilt, as he was now one of us and we were in it together.

He showed that when needed to, he could be ruthless, by banishing Abdoulaye Doucoure to the U21`s for not training properly and just being an all round athletic donkey.

Even in the face of countless losses, Frank pretty much stayed loyal to his 4-3-3 system and in the end we just about stayed up with a game to spare and sadly the writng was on the wall for him.

No one rejoiced when Frank was sacked, we all knew it was coming, but we all wanted him to succeed, but to carry on trying to play 4-3-3 with such a set of limited players was only ever going to end one way for him.

He`s still looked upon very fondly at Everton, especially more so, we`ve got the Dycheosaurus at the helm now, who`s turned is into his Burnley side.

I`m hoping that his time out has given him time to reflect on his mistakes at Everton and this time he gets it right with your team.

I`ve no idea what system Robins played and the calibre of your players, as the only one I really know is ex Everton man Ellis Simms.

I wish you all the best with Frank at the helm and I can say with the utmost confidence, no matter what happens, you`ll all come to love the man.
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Good insight that. Thanks.
 
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vow

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #7
Farmer Jim said:
Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.
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No wonder Rafa was shit, only playing 10!
 
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vow

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #8
fatso said:
No wonder you didn't win many games if you were playing 4-4-1

In all seriousness, thanks for the heads up.
Frank wasn't many people's first choice, but now he's here, we will get behind him and give him a fair crack of the whip.
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beat me to it!
 
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Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #9
Farmer Jim said:
This is the first time I`ve ever come onto another teams forum so bear with me !

I just wanted to write a little something about Frank`s time at Everton and try to allay some of the fears that I`ve read about him as a manager.

As every man and his dog knows, we`re a clown show of a club and owned by an absolute clueless lunatic, who was the only person on the planet, to think it would be a good idea to appoint possibly the most hated manager of all time by Everton fans, Rafael Benitez.

Even worse, Benitez was given carte blanche by the idiot owner, to start ripping the club up from the inside out, which included getting rid of back room staff who were part of the fabric of the club and also getting rid of any players who he didn`t fancy or tow the line - James Rodriguez / Luca Digne.

It wasn`t long before the club and fans was tearing itself apart, both on and off the pitch, due to Mr Benitez and eventually the idiot owner woke up and realised that relegation was a very real possibility and a big chunk of his investment with it.

Enter Super Frankie Lampard.

The first thing he did and I really can`t underestimate how quickly he did this, was he got the fans on board with him. Not with platitudes or head patting, but with his genuine desire to do what was best for the team, the fans and the club.

He was like a breath of fresh air compared to Benitez and the fans took to him straight away and the doom and gloom was replaced by a real sense of optimism.

We all knew that there was no magic wand, no money ( PSR ), as the idiot owner had allowed other managers before Frank, to spend a fortune on mediocre players, on long contracts, who either wouldn`t go or no one wanted them. So Frank had to work with what he had.

Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.

The problem with this, due to the mess other managers had got us into with signing duds, we didn`t have the players with the skills necessary to play in this system and things started to go wrong pretty quickly.

However, the fans still backed Frank to the hilt, as he was now one of us and we were in it together.

He showed that when needed to, he could be ruthless, by banishing Abdoulaye Doucoure to the U21`s for not training properly and just being an all round athletic donkey.

Even in the face of countless losses, Frank pretty much stayed loyal to his 4-3-3 system and in the end we just about stayed up with a game to spare and sadly the writng was on the wall for him.

No one rejoiced when Frank was sacked, we all knew it was coming, but we all wanted him to succeed, but to carry on trying to play 4-3-3 with such a set of limited players was only ever going to end one way for him.

He`s still looked upon very fondly at Everton, especially more so, we`ve got the Dycheosaurus at the helm now, who`s turned is into his Burnley side.

I`m hoping that his time out has given him time to reflect on his mistakes at Everton and this time he gets it right with your team.

I`ve no idea what system Robins played and the calibre of your players, as the only one I really know is ex Everton man Ellis Simms.

I wish you all the best with Frank at the helm and I can say with the utmost confidence, no matter what happens, you`ll all come to love the man.
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Thanks for the honest insight, it’s a good read.

Got a lot of time for Everton, my sister did a Public Health initiative in the area quite a few years ago, to do with men’s health and the Club and Alan Stubbs particularly gave a lot of time and support to it,
 
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Farmer Jim

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #10
vow said:
No wonder Rafa was shit, only playing 10!
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Missed one player out - 4-4-1-1
 
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Neil Martins head

Active Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #11
Farmer Jim said:
This is the first time I`ve ever come onto another teams forum so bear with me !

I just wanted to write a little something about Frank`s time at Everton and try to allay some of the fears that I`ve read about him as a manager.

As every man and his dog knows, we`re a clown show of a club and owned by an absolute clueless lunatic, who was the only person on the planet, to think it would be a good idea to appoint possibly the most hated manager of all time by Everton fans, Rafael Benitez.

Even worse, Benitez was given carte blanche by the idiot owner, to start ripping the club up from the inside out, which included getting rid of back room staff who were part of the fabric of the club and also getting rid of any players who he didn`t fancy or tow the line - James Rodriguez / Luca Digne.

It wasn`t long before the club and fans was tearing itself apart, both on and off the pitch, due to Mr Benitez and eventually the idiot owner woke up and realised that relegation was a very real possibility and a big chunk of his investment with it.

Enter Super Frankie Lampard.

The first thing he did and I really can`t underestimate how quickly he did this, was he got the fans on board with him. Not with platitudes or head patting, but with his genuine desire to do what was best for the team, the fans and the club.

He was like a breath of fresh air compared to Benitez and the fans took to him straight away and the doom and gloom was replaced by a real sense of optimism.

We all knew that there was no magic wand, no money ( PSR ), as the idiot owner had allowed other managers before Frank, to spend a fortune on mediocre players, on long contracts, who either wouldn`t go or no one wanted them. So Frank had to work with what he had.

Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.

The problem with this, due to the mess other managers had got us into with signing duds, we didn`t have the players with the skills necessary to play in this system and things started to go wrong pretty quickly.

However, the fans still backed Frank to the hilt, as he was now one of us and we were in it together.

He showed that when needed to, he could be ruthless, by banishing Abdoulaye Doucoure to the U21`s for not training properly and just being an all round athletic donkey.

Even in the face of countless losses, Frank pretty much stayed loyal to his 4-3-3 system and in the end we just about stayed up with a game to spare and sadly the writng was on the wall for him.

No one rejoiced when Frank was sacked, we all knew it was coming, but we all wanted him to succeed, but to carry on trying to play 4-3-3 with such a set of limited players was only ever going to end one way for him.

He`s still looked upon very fondly at Everton, especially more so, we`ve got the Dycheosaurus at the helm now, who`s turned is into his Burnley side.

I`m hoping that his time out has given him time to reflect on his mistakes at Everton and this time he gets it right with your team.

I`ve no idea what system Robins played and the calibre of your players, as the only one I really know is ex Everton man Ellis Simms.

I wish you all the best with Frank at the helm and I can say with the utmost confidence, no matter what happens, you`ll all come to love the man.
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Brilliant post mate, thanks for giving us your time.
 
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Farmer Jim

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #12
fatso said:
No wonder you didn't win many games if you were playing 4-4-1

In all seriousness, thanks for the heads up.
Frank wasn't many people's first choice, but now he's here, we will get behind him and give him a fair crack of the whip.
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You`ll fall in love with him, he`s such a genuinely nice fella.

Does anyone play 4-3-3 in the Championship / do you have the players to play in this system ?
 
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ptr

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #13
‘Dycheosaurus’ was my favourite part but yes very good read!

The excitement around the club at the moment is good and we absolutely needed a change, despite what some say. With what we know about Adi and the coaching structure, I really don’t think Robins was going to turn it around, as sad as that is.

3 points tomorrow would be excellent!
 
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covcity4life

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #14
clint van damme said:
Good insight that. Thanks.
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Almost as insightful as your assessment of his Everton stint
 
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Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #15
Farmer Jim said:
This is the first time I`ve ever come onto another teams forum so bear with me !

I just wanted to write a little something about Frank`s time at Everton and try to allay some of the fears that I`ve read about him as a manager.

As every man and his dog knows, we`re a clown show of a club and owned by an absolute clueless lunatic, who was the only person on the planet, to think it would be a good idea to appoint possibly the most hated manager of all time by Everton fans, Rafael Benitez.

Even worse, Benitez was given carte blanche by the idiot owner, to start ripping the club up from the inside out, which included getting rid of back room staff who were part of the fabric of the club and also getting rid of any players who he didn`t fancy or tow the line - James Rodriguez / Luca Digne.

It wasn`t long before the club and fans was tearing itself apart, both on and off the pitch, due to Mr Benitez and eventually the idiot owner woke up and realised that relegation was a very real possibility and a big chunk of his investment with it.

Enter Super Frankie Lampard.

The first thing he did and I really can`t underestimate how quickly he did this, was he got the fans on board with him. Not with platitudes or head patting, but with his genuine desire to do what was best for the team, the fans and the club.

He was like a breath of fresh air compared to Benitez and the fans took to him straight away and the doom and gloom was replaced by a real sense of optimism.

We all knew that there was no magic wand, no money ( PSR ), as the idiot owner had allowed other managers before Frank, to spend a fortune on mediocre players, on long contracts, who either wouldn`t go or no one wanted them. So Frank had to work with what he had.

Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.

The problem with this, due to the mess other managers had got us into with signing duds, we didn`t have the players with the skills necessary to play in this system and things started to go wrong pretty quickly.

However, the fans still backed Frank to the hilt, as he was now one of us and we were in it together.

He showed that when needed to, he could be ruthless, by banishing Abdoulaye Doucoure to the U21`s for not training properly and just being an all round athletic donkey.

Even in the face of countless losses, Frank pretty much stayed loyal to his 4-3-3 system and in the end we just about stayed up with a game to spare and sadly the writng was on the wall for him.

No one rejoiced when Frank was sacked, we all knew it was coming, but we all wanted him to succeed, but to carry on trying to play 4-3-3 with such a set of limited players was only ever going to end one way for him.

He`s still looked upon very fondly at Everton, especially more so, we`ve got the Dycheosaurus at the helm now, who`s turned is into his Burnley side.

I`m hoping that his time out has given him time to reflect on his mistakes at Everton and this time he gets it right with your team.

I`ve no idea what system Robins played and the calibre of your players, as the only one I really know is ex Everton man Ellis Simms.

I wish you all the best with Frank at the helm and I can say with the utmost confidence, no matter what happens, you`ll all come to love the man.
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Read the whole thing in a scouse accent. It was exhausting and I only understood about half of it.

A whole hour lost.

Thanks for your insight though
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #16
Heard countless players not have much good to say about Benitez. The guy sounds like an absolute prick.

I’m feeling very positive about our new head coach.
 
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Farmer Jim

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #17
Tommo1993 said:
Heard countless players not have much good to say about Benitez. The guy sounds like an absolute prick.

I’m feeling very positive about our new head coach.
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I could start a thread on him and all of the stuff he did, but it would probably get the site shut down
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #18
Farmer Jim said:
This is the first time I`ve ever come onto another teams forum so bear with me !

I just wanted to write a little something about Frank`s time at Everton and try to allay some of the fears that I`ve read about him as a manager.

As every man and his dog knows, we`re a clown show of a club and owned by an absolute clueless lunatic, who was the only person on the planet, to think it would be a good idea to appoint possibly the most hated manager of all time by Everton fans, Rafael Benitez.

Even worse, Benitez was given carte blanche by the idiot owner, to start ripping the club up from the inside out, which included getting rid of back room staff who were part of the fabric of the club and also getting rid of any players who he didn`t fancy or tow the line - James Rodriguez / Luca Digne.

It wasn`t long before the club and fans was tearing itself apart, both on and off the pitch, due to Mr Benitez and eventually the idiot owner woke up and realised that relegation was a very real possibility and a big chunk of his investment with it.

Enter Super Frankie Lampard.

The first thing he did and I really can`t underestimate how quickly he did this, was he got the fans on board with him. Not with platitudes or head patting, but with his genuine desire to do what was best for the team, the fans and the club.

He was like a breath of fresh air compared to Benitez and the fans took to him straight away and the doom and gloom was replaced by a real sense of optimism.

We all knew that there was no magic wand, no money ( PSR ), as the idiot owner had allowed other managers before Frank, to spend a fortune on mediocre players, on long contracts, who either wouldn`t go or no one wanted them. So Frank had to work with what he had.

Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.

The problem with this, due to the mess other managers had got us into with signing duds, we didn`t have the players with the skills necessary to play in this system and things started to go wrong pretty quickly.

However, the fans still backed Frank to the hilt, as he was now one of us and we were in it together.

He showed that when needed to, he could be ruthless, by banishing Abdoulaye Doucoure to the U21`s for not training properly and just being an all round athletic donkey.

Even in the face of countless losses, Frank pretty much stayed loyal to his 4-3-3 system and in the end we just about stayed up with a game to spare and sadly the writng was on the wall for him.

No one rejoiced when Frank was sacked, we all knew it was coming, but we all wanted him to succeed, but to carry on trying to play 4-3-3 with such a set of limited players was only ever going to end one way for him.

He`s still looked upon very fondly at Everton, especially more so, we`ve got the Dycheosaurus at the helm now, who`s turned is into his Burnley side.

I`m hoping that his time out has given him time to reflect on his mistakes at Everton and this time he gets it right with your team.

I`ve no idea what system Robins played and the calibre of your players, as the only one I really know is ex Everton man Ellis Simms.

I wish you all the best with Frank at the helm and I can say with the utmost confidence, no matter what happens, you`ll all come to love the man.
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Thank you. Good luck for the rest of the season
 
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procdoc

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #19
Good read, thanks for sharing. Hopefully he’s learned from those mistakes and will change if something isn’t working
 
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TomRad85

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #20
Farmer Jim said:
You`ll fall in love with him, he`s such a genuinely nice fella.

Does anyone play 4-3-3 in the Championship / do you have the players to play in this system ?
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It's our best formation and I think most are hoping we go back to some variation of it.
 
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Farmer Jim

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #21
TomRad85 said:
It's our best formation and I think most are hoping we go back to some variation of it.
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If they`re used to playing that system, the players should hit the ground running.

On a side note, who`s he bringing in as his backroom staff ?

He brought in Ashley Cole as one of his assistants with us, who was apparently very well thought of by the players and training ground staff.

Just a shame he`s at Birmingham now.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #22
Farmer Jim said:
If they`re used to playing that system, the players should hit the ground running.

On a side note, who`s he bringing in as his backroom staff ?

He brought in Ashley Cole as one of his assistants with us, who was apparently very well thought of by the players and training ground staff.

Just a shame he`s at Birmingham now.
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Cole is with England now, Lampard has brought in Joe Edwards and Chris Jones.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #23
covcity4life said:
Almost as insightful as your assessment of his Everton stint
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Statistically their 2nd worse manager.
And plenty of Everton fans don't agree with Farmer Jim's assessment. But I enjoyed reading it anyway.

And again, I don't really care. In the same way I don't really care what Robins done at Huddedsfield, or Peter Reid did at Sunderland, I care about what they do here.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #24
Farmer Jim said:
This is the first time I`ve ever come onto another teams forum so bear with me !

I just wanted to write a little something about Frank`s time at Everton and try to allay some of the fears that I`ve read about him as a manager.

As every man and his dog knows, we`re a clown show of a club and owned by an absolute clueless lunatic, who was the only person on the planet, to think it would be a good idea to appoint possibly the most hated manager of all time by Everton fans, Rafael Benitez.

Even worse, Benitez was given carte blanche by the idiot owner, to start ripping the club up from the inside out, which included getting rid of back room staff who were part of the fabric of the club and also getting rid of any players who he didn`t fancy or tow the line - James Rodriguez / Luca Digne.

It wasn`t long before the club and fans was tearing itself apart, both on and off the pitch, due to Mr Benitez and eventually the idiot owner woke up and realised that relegation was a very real possibility and a big chunk of his investment with it.

Enter Super Frankie Lampard.

The first thing he did and I really can`t underestimate how quickly he did this, was he got the fans on board with him. Not with platitudes or head patting, but with his genuine desire to do what was best for the team, the fans and the club.

He was like a breath of fresh air compared to Benitez and the fans took to him straight away and the doom and gloom was replaced by a real sense of optimism.

We all knew that there was no magic wand, no money ( PSR ), as the idiot owner had allowed other managers before Frank, to spend a fortune on mediocre players, on long contracts, who either wouldn`t go or no one wanted them. So Frank had to work with what he had.

Benitez favoured a backs to the wall, 4-4-1 formation, where the full backs pretty much never crossed the line and Frank replaced this with his favoured 4-3-3.

The problem with this, due to the mess other managers had got us into with signing duds, we didn`t have the players with the skills necessary to play in this system and things started to go wrong pretty quickly.

However, the fans still backed Frank to the hilt, as he was now one of us and we were in it together.

He showed that when needed to, he could be ruthless, by banishing Abdoulaye Doucoure to the U21`s for not training properly and just being an all round athletic donkey.

Even in the face of countless losses, Frank pretty much stayed loyal to his 4-3-3 system and in the end we just about stayed up with a game to spare and sadly the writng was on the wall for him.

No one rejoiced when Frank was sacked, we all knew it was coming, but we all wanted him to succeed, but to carry on trying to play 4-3-3 with such a set of limited players was only ever going to end one way for him.

He`s still looked upon very fondly at Everton, especially more so, we`ve got the Dycheosaurus at the helm now, who`s turned is into his Burnley side.

I`m hoping that his time out has given him time to reflect on his mistakes at Everton and this time he gets it right with your team.

I`ve no idea what system Robins played and the calibre of your players, as the only one I really know is ex Everton man Ellis Simms.

I wish you all the best with Frank at the helm and I can say with the utmost confidence, no matter what happens, you`ll all come to love the man.
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Respect from a Coventry fan.

we will look after him.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #25
Ccfcisparks said:
Respect from a Coventry fan.

we will look after him.
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Come on, don’t fucking spoil a nice moment.
 
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fatso

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #26
Farmer Jim said:
You`ll fall in love with him, he`s such a genuinely nice fella.

Does anyone play 4-3-3 in the Championship / do you have the players to play in this system ?
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It's not our normal formation, and it's not seen that regularly in the championship.
We prefer wing backs and 3 centre backs, but we certainly have enough attacking players for 4-3-3.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Frank sets us up on Saturday.
 
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Farmer Jim

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #27
clint van damme said:
Statistically their 2nd worse manager.
And plenty of Everton fans don't agree with Farmer Jim's assessment. But I enjoyed reading it anyway.

And again, I don't really care. In the same way I don't really care what Robins done at Huddedsfield, or Peter Reid did at Sunderland, I care about what they do here.
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The ones on the main Everton forum who don`t like him, tend to be the bottom feeders of the forum and who have restraining orders against them and aren`t allowed anywhere near school playgrounds in real life.

The vast majority of Everton fans really wanted Frank to succeed, even when it was obvious he was getting the boot.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #28
Farmer Jim said:
The ones on the main Everton forum who don`t like him, tend to be the bottom feeders of the forum and who have restraining orders against them and aren`t allowed anywhere near school playgrounds in real life.

The vast majority of Everton fans really wanted Frank to succeed, even when it was obvious he was getting the boot.
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To be fair, the forum I read, don't know which one, never had a bad word to say about him as a man but all thought he was out of his depth even though they acknowledged there were much bigger issues at the club.
Though when you've had Russell Slade take you to L2 under sisu you really know about shit managers and dysfunctional football clubs
 
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napolimp

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #29
Good read, and made me feel a little better about Lampard. Most excited I've been for a game in a while, can't wait to see how we line up.
 
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Farmer Jim

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #30
clint van damme said:
To be fair, the forum I read, don't know which one, never had a bad word to say about him as a man but all thought he was out of his depth even though they acknowledged there were much bigger issues at the club.
Though when you've had Russell Slade take you to L2 under sisu you really know about shit managers and dysfunctional football clubs
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The main forum is called Grand Old Team mate.

If you want to amuse yourself pop over there and have a read of the Sean Dyche thread.

The dwindling band of Dyche supporters, all three of them, are doing their level best, to defend themselves against the onslaught from rest of the forum
 
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rob9872

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #31
Forum's gone soft. Where are the 'get back to your own board you scouse bin dipping c**t' type posts?

The games gone Jeff.



Cheers Farmer Jim
 
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Farmer Jim

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #32
rob9872 said:
Forum's gone soft. Where are the 'get back to your own board you scouse bin dipping c**t' type posts?

The games gone Jeff.



Cheers Farmer Jim
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Give it time brother, give it time
 
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Hutch11

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  • Nov 29, 2024
  • #33
Love farmer Jim
 

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At last, another Brassic fan

He’s the best comedy character that’s been created for a very long time
 
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At last, another Brassic fan
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Yep
 
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