Errors Leading To Goals (2 Viewers)

Nuskyblue · 2025-05-10T09:11:34+0100

Do we make more individual errors that lead to goals than other teams? We seem to have made them consistently throughout the season (more recently due to what science now calls the "Collins Effect).

I can't find a proper source for this so perhaps some statos on here can enlighten me/us. A quick Google shows me that Collins was good for .1 goal per game from errors last season.

Brighton Sky Blue · 2025-05-10T09:19:38+0100

I can’t remember many goals that weren’t the result of some dreadful mistake. We concede a lot of goals that aren’t just soft, they’re laughable.

clint van damme · 2025-05-10T09:23:14+0100

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I can’t remember many goals that weren’t the result of some dreadful mistake. We concede a lot of goals that aren’t just soft, they’re laughable.

Though you also don't tend to analyse the opposition defence when we score so maybe a few of ours have been down to fuck ups.

Brighton Sky Blue · 2025-05-10T09:24:30+0100

clint van damme said:
Though you also don't tend to analyse the opposition defence when we score so maybe a few of ours have been down to fuck ups.

Well the Sheffield Wednesday keeper gifted us one for starters, but I can’t recall many howlers, at least not as many as we’ve coughed up.

fernandopartridge · 2025-05-10T09:24:42+0100

We are not a terrible team defensively so when we do concede it's usually due to an error rather than just being opened up

TomRad85 · 2025-05-10T09:26:16+0100

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well the Sheffield Wednesday keeper gifted us one for starters, but I can’t recall many howlers, at least not as many as we’ve coughed up.

Oxford first home game did an MvE.

Cally Fedora · 2025-05-10T09:26:57+0100

We concede ridiculous goals very frequently. Collins was a big part of that but we’ve done it far too often. Neither of our starting full backs are good positionally which lets teams at us as well

lord_garrincha · 2025-05-10T09:28:22+0100

It's similar to the tired 'we never score from corners' line when, in reality, no one really does!

coop · 2025-05-10T09:31:12+0100

2 goals a game is our average to concede so not surprised they scored 2 last night both goals were shit.

Winny the Bish · 2025-05-10T09:35:07+0100

Think about it this way: how many of our players are actually comfortable and don’t capitulate under pressure with the ball at their feet?

Good: Grimes, Sheaf, Tatsu, Dasilva, Rudoni

Poor: BTA, Wright, Thomas, Allen, Eccles

Liability: MVE, Simms, Kitching, Wilson, Collins

If Lampard is going to play possession focused football, we need serious roster turnover this summer to get more players who don’t shit themselves under pressure.

Perryccfc · 2025-05-10T09:37:43+0100

Winny the Bish said:
Think about it this way: how many of our players are actually comfortable and don’t capitulate under pressure with the ball at their feet?

Good: Grimes, Sheaf, Tatsu, Dasilva, Rudoni

Poor: BTA, Wright, Thomas, Allen, Eccles

Liability: MVE, Simms, Kitching, Wilson, Collins

If Lampard is going to play possession focused football, we need serious roster turnover this summer to get more players who don’t shit themselves under pressure.

I don’t recall MVE being a liability before yesterday? Yesterday was a shocker but it’s certainly not regular so I think liability is harsh.

I would also argue Thomas is worse on the ball than Kitching.

Brighton Sky Blue · 2025-05-10T09:39:25+0100

Perryccfc said:
I don’t recall MVE being a liability before yesterday? Yesterday was a shocker but it’s certainly not regular so I think liability is harsh.

I would also argue Thomas is worse on the ball than Kitching.

MVE for the most part has been Mr Consistent and at a guess has played the most minutes out of anyone.

Nuskyblue · 2025-05-10T09:42:12+0100

lord_garrincha said:
It's similar to the tired 'we never score from corners' line when, in reality, no one really does!

We do tho, that is to say we did. None for a while iirc

SkyBlue_Adam · 2025-05-10T09:43:30+0100

That is the risk of a high line… one bad pass or caught on the ball and they are in

Brighton Sky Blue · 2025-05-10T09:44:42+0100

SkyBlue_Adam said:
That is the risk of a high line… one bad pass or caught on the ball and they are in

Shit back passes result in goals no matter how high the line is

Nuskyblue · 2025-05-10T09:44:42+0100

Winny the Bish said:
Think about it this way: how many of our players are actually comfortable and don’t capitulate under pressure with the ball at their feet?

Good: Grimes, Sheaf, Tatsu, Dasilva, Rudoni

Poor: BTA, Wright, Thomas, Allen, Eccles

Liability: MVE, Simms, Kitching, Wilson, Collins

If Lampard is going to play possession focused football, we need serious roster turnover this summer to get more players who don’t shit themselves under pressure.

Allen is OK isn't he? His ball retention is good and his ability to move the ball on quickly can be an asset. MVE also not terrible?

MTK · 2025-05-10T09:45:38+0100

No hard feelings against Milan here. We all make a mistake sometimes and you could see he was devastated. Not like he was ‘oh well’ about it or anything. I do sometimes look at the first touch of players like Wright and Simms that cost us significant sums of money and think how can what must be ‘basic’ skill for any footballer be so poor a lot of the time. When you see players like Tats bring the ball under control with one touch, even from a long cross field pass, you realize what an essential skill it is for a team that wants to play good football, move the ball quickly etc

Winny the Bish · 2025-05-10T09:45:40+0100

Perryccfc said:
I don’t recall MVE being a liability before yesterday? Yesterday was a shocker but it’s certainly not regular so I think liability is harsh.

I would also argue Thomas is worse on the ball than Kitching.

Thomas is worse on the ball going forward.

Kitching is much worse with the ball cleaning up through balls. Constantly boots it out rather than take a touch or calmly play back to the keeper. I miss Callum Doyle man.

SkyBlue_Adam · 2025-05-10T10:05:11+0100

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Shit back passes result in goals no matter how high the line is

The 2nd goal is indefensible but I mean with the first, Bobby Thomas trying to play a pass even grimes would struggle to make and then it’s 3 against 3 from one pass

Diogenes · 2025-05-10T10:09:32+0100

Winny the Bish said:
Think about it this way: how many of our players are actually comfortable and don’t capitulate under pressure with the ball at their feet?

Good: Grimes, Sheaf, Tatsu, Dasilva, Rudoni

Poor: BTA, Wright, Thomas, Allen, Eccles

Liability: MVE, Simms, Kitching, Wilson, Collins

If Lampard is going to play possession focused football, we need serious roster turnover this summer to get more players who don’t shit themselves under pressure.

What the hell did you just say about van Ewijk, you little liability merchant? I’ll have you know he graduated top of his class in elite Dutch wing-back warfare, and he’s been involved in more tactical raids down the right flank than your brain has cells. He has over 400 confirmed overlaps, is trained in high-speed counter-attacks, and is the top transitional weapon in the Championship. You are nothing to him but another weak, clueless Twitter pundit with a Greggs addiction.

He will wipe you the hell out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before at the CBS. Mark my words. You think you can get away with calling Milan van Ewijk a liability? Think again, cretin. As we speak, my secret network of Sky Blue die-hards are pinging screenshots to group chats, and your post is being turned into a meme. You better prepare for the storm — the storm that repositions your tactical credibility to League Two level.

You’re done. Van Ewijk can be anywhere, anytime, and he can roast an entire back line in over seven hundred ways — and that’s just in second gear. Not only is he extensively trained in defensive recovery and line-breaking sprints, but he has access to Frank Lampards Tactical Codex, and he will use them to dismantle your footballing opinions in a matter of seconds.

If only you’d known what holy retribution your stupid little “he’s a liability” comment was about to unleash, maybe you’d have kept your Tesco-value take to yourself. But no — you had to open your gob. And now Milan’s going to put in a MOTM performance just to spite you. You’ll be sitting there in silence, hoping no one remembers. Milan made one mistake. You make a mistake every time you log on.

#BackVanEwijk
#PUSB

eastwoodsdustman · 2025-05-10T10:44:12+0100

Because we play such a high defensive line any defensive mistake usually leaves us wide open. A deeper back line would probably help but would affect us going forwards.

SAJ · 2025-05-10T10:59:20+0100

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well the Sheffield Wednesday keeper gifted us one for starters, but I can’t recall many howlers, at least not as many as we’ve coughed up.

The Oxford keeper did as well.

GC1976 · 2025-05-10T11:11:17+0100

MVE error but what was Wilson doing outside the box ? (Trying too hard to impress I would suggest). GK position has cost us too many goals this season.

fernandopartridge · 2025-05-10T11:32:23+0100

GC1976 said:
MVE error but what was Wilson doing outside the box ? (Trying too hard to impress I would suggest). GK position has cost us too many goals this season.

He was coming out anticipating a back pass I think

Mucca Mad Boys · 2025-05-10T11:34:03+0100

GC1976 said:
MVE error but what was Wilson doing outside the box ? (Trying too hard to impress I would suggest). GK position has cost us too many goals this season.

GK is a priority area in the summer. Dovin is class but if his recovery takes longer than planned, we can’t be having Wilson or Collins in goal for a lengthened period of time.

ptr · 2025-05-10T12:26:04+0100

GC1976 said:
MVE error but what was Wilson doing outside the box ? (Trying too hard to impress I would suggest). GK position has cost us too many goals this season.

What did you want him to do? Stand on his goal line? He’s anticipating a pass that actually reaches his feet so of course he comes out.

chiefdave · 2025-05-10T12:50:37+0100

ptr said:
What did you want him to do? Stand on his goal line? He’s anticipating a pass that actually reaches his feet so of course he comes out.

Seen a few people having a go at Wilson for this, pretty sure most of them would also be criticising him if he’d stayed on his line and just let the forward pick his spot

Skyblue Bangkok · 2025-05-10T12:59:51+0100

Mucca Mad Boys said:
GK is a priority area in the summer. Dovin is class but if his recovery takes longer than planned, we can’t be having Wilson or Collins in goal for a lengthened period of time.

If possible get a PL 2 Nd choice in till Xmas on loan

Mucca Mad Boys · 2025-05-10T13:01:33+0100

Skyblue Bangkok said:
If possible get a PL 2 Nd choice in till Xmas on loan

What happens if Dovin makes a recovery by Dec-Jan and gets injured again outside the transfer window?

The club needs to accept that we just need to sign a GK irrespective of what league we’re in next season.

DT-R · 2025-05-10T13:15:29+0100

clint van damme said:
Though you also don't tend to analyse the opposition defence when we score so maybe a few of ours have been down to fuck ups.

In just our games alone, how many times have we scored from errors? Usually, we're made to work for our goals. Look at last night as just one example, low block defending, we knocked and knocked and knocked and in the end it was a brilliant cross and header that unlocked the defence. They defended for 90 mins and didn't make a single error leading to a goal. We had to defend (properly) on 3, maybe 4 occasions and they scored from 2 of them. Granted that's just one example, but look at us when we tried the low block v Luton (albeit with 10 men) and it was a mistake that led to their goal. Not a brilliant bit of play and a worldie, ANOTHER mistake at the back. I can sit here and list mistake after mistake after mistake of goals we've gifted this season. Off the top of my head can't think of one that we've benefited from at the other end.

*Edit. I can think of 2 mistakes leading to goals. Though one of them was a different level goal that most wouldn't take on/hit the target with.
1)James Beadle v Simms.
2)BTA goal v Swansea but let's face it, not many would strike first time from that distance following that mistake.

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DT-R · 2025-05-10T13:27:25+0100

Diogenes said:
What the hell did you just say about van Ewijk, you little liability merchant? I’ll have you know he graduated top of his class in elite Dutch wing-back warfare, and he’s been involved in more tactical raids down the right flank than your brain has cells. He has over 400 confirmed overlaps, is trained in high-speed counter-attacks, and is the top transitional weapon in the Championship. You are nothing to him but another weak, clueless Twitter pundit with a Greggs addiction.

He will wipe you the hell out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before at the CBS. Mark my words. You think you can get away with calling Milan van Ewijk a liability? Think again, cretin. As we speak, my secret network of Sky Blue die-hards are pinging screenshots to group chats, and your post is being turned into a meme. You better prepare for the storm — the storm that repositions your tactical credibility to League Two level.

You’re done. Van Ewijk can be anywhere, anytime, and he can roast an entire back line in over seven hundred ways — and that’s just in second gear. Not only is he extensively trained in defensive recovery and line-breaking sprints, but he has access to Frank Lampards Tactical Codex, and he will use them to dismantle your footballing opinions in a matter of seconds.

If only you’d known what holy retribution your stupid little “he’s a liability” comment was about to unleash, maybe you’d have kept your Tesco-value take to yourself. But no — you had to open your gob. And now Milan’s going to put in a MOTM performance just to spite you. You’ll be sitting there in silence, hoping no one remembers. Milan made one mistake. You make a mistake every time you log on.

#BackVanEwijk
#PUSB

Im confused. Is this a parody account? That's one hell of a rant if not. I think you could do with a break buddy.

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DT-R · 2025-05-10T13:34:05+0100

chiefdave said:
Seen a few people having a go at Wilson for this, pretty sure most of them would also be criticising him if he’d stayed on his line and just let the forward pick his spot

I agree, when the pass is first made he is actually still in his area. He's made himself available for the ball. Sunderland were no threat and MVE has control of the ball. It's a routine pass back to Wilson who's positioning is spot on. The "Sweeper Keeper". It's what is expected of keepers these days. When the pass comes up short Wilson has to try and make the ground. He can't just stay. He's done OK for me to push the player wide, unfortunately it wasn't enough. To blame Wilson for the second goal lastnight is laughable.
1st, probably should of had a stronger hand to it, but 2nd, he's done nothing wrong.

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skyblu3sk · 2025-05-10T13:52:30+0100

ptr said:
What did you want him to do? Stand on his goal line? He’s anticipating a pass that actually reaches his feet so of course he comes out.

The only thing I could think he could have done slightly better is anticipate the ball won't get to him and get back in the box to allow him to handle it rather than try to tackle him. But honestly the main mistake was MVE but he's been so consistent all season he certainly doesn't deserve a panning.

Major Tom · 2025-05-10T14:24:38+0100

Someone said on CWR after that game it was our season wrapped up in one match. Dominated, look threatening but not clinical enough in front of goal and a mistake cost us when we didn't t really look like conceding.

Shannerz · 2025-05-10T16:34:00+0100

Winny the Bish said:
Think about it this way: how many of our players are actually comfortable and don’t capitulate under pressure with the ball at their feet?

Good: Grimes, Sheaf, Tatsu, Dasilva, Rudoni

Poor: BTA, Wright, Thomas, Allen, Eccles

Liability: MVE, Simms, Kitching, Wilson, Collins

If Lampard is going to play possession focused football, we need serious roster turnover this summer to get more players who don’t shit themselves under pressure.

Putting aside some seriously wide of the mark assessments there, it's a *squad*!

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