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Transfer Rumour Ephron Mason-Clark (2 Viewers)

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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #981
Astute said:
Have never heard of that kind of thing before.

The player is theirs until the end of the season. It has cost them 750k to keep him. They would be mad to risk him if he is carrying a knock. It equates to 50k a game for a League 1 side.
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He will want to play and do well. He has too really because he's got the rest of this season to show MR that he deserves to be starting for us next season. To do that he's got to prove he's better or offers something we don't already have. If we do manage to get promoted then he's got an even bigger hill to climb.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #982
chiefdave said:
Have you forgotten this classic?
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Wasn't Akpom on a youth loan? The rules are a bit different for those.
 
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Astute

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #983
chiefdave said:
Have you forgotten this classic?
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You said injury.
 
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hamertime

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #984
Astute said:
Has cost them 750k to keep him for the rest of the season. Won't happen whatever.

Needs a rest? Slight knock?
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If they don’t make the playoffs and we do could he play in ours?
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #985
chiefdave said:
Have you forgotten this classic?
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Wasn’t there a big row between Akpom and our manager might have been Presley then he went off to Arsenal for what really were Micky Mouse youth team cup games
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #986
hamertime said:
If they don’t make the playoffs and we do could he play in ours?
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No.
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #987
hamertime said:
If they don’t make the playoffs and we do could he play in ours?
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No he is on loan to Peterborough until the summer transfer window opens, that applies to all loanees, new EFL or FA rule.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #988
hamertime said:
If they don’t make the playoffs and we do could he play in ours?
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The answer won't change, no matter how many times you ask it.
 
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Astute

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #989
hamertime said:
If they don’t make the playoffs and we do could in play in ours?
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No. Can't be done even if we registered him on time. Wouldn't have thought we registered him as we haven't even paid for him yet.

But even if we had there us a time limit for recalling loans. Can't finish a season for one side then get called back for the playoffs. The players season ends with the team they have been playing for.
 
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hamertime

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #990
Manchester_sky_blue said:
The answer won't change, no matter how many times you ask it.
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As long as I keep asking there’s a chance I might get a different answer.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #991
Astute said:
You said injury.
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The point I was trying to make was we’ve had players who, for whatever reason, have been unavailable for games and it’s commonplace for players to return to parent clubs if they’re injured.

But what if it’s just a knock and it’s 50/50 if he plays and if he does there’s potential for more damage. Do we asses him, do we get any say?

We’ve also had players in the past where there’s been an assumption from some on here that part of the deal is they have to play but that’s always seemed to be more rumour than fact
 
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hamertime

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #992
Astute said:
No. Can't be done even if we registered him on time. Wouldn't have thought we registered him as we haven't even paid for him yet.

But even if we had there us a time limit for recalling loans. Can't finish a season for one side then get called back for the playoffs. The players season ends with the team they have been playing for.
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Thanks for that, I’m just clutching at straws over this.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #993
Astute said:
No. Can't be done even if we registered him on time. Wouldn't have thought we registered him as we haven't even paid for him yet.

But even if we had there us a time limit for recalling loans. Can't finish a season for one side then get called back for the playoffs. The players season ends with the team they have been playing for.
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We can't register any more players in our squad until the summer transfer window opens. Regardless of whether we recalled him or playoffs etc etc, none of that makes any difference. He won't be able to play for us until next season.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #994
chiefdave said:
The point I was trying to make was we’ve had players who, for whatever reason, have been unavailable for games and it’s commonplace for players to return to parent clubs if they’re injured.

But what if it’s just a knock and it’s 50/50 if he plays and if he does there’s potential for more damage. Do we asses him, do we get any say?

We’ve also had players in the past where there’s been an assumption from some on here that part of the deal is they have to play but that’s always seemed to be more rumour than fact
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Like I said it is costing them 50k a game to keep him. Why would they risk him?

And we haven't even paid for him yet.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #995
Manchester_sky_blue said:
We can't register any more players in our squad until the summer transfer window opens. Regardless of whether we recalled him or playoffs etc etc, none of that makes any difference. He won't be able to play for us until next season.
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I know
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #996
Astute said:
I know
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Quoted the wrong post
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #997
hamertime said:
If it’s not working him being there or they fall out the play offs with no chance of making them surely they might give us him back? If we got in to the playoffs and they didn’t could we potentially have him?
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No.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #998
Astute said:
Like I said it is costing them 50k a game to keep him. Why would they risk him?

And we haven't even paid for him yet.
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It isn’t actually costing them anything
 
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hamertime

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #999
Grendel said:
It isn’t actually costing them anything
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No outlay yes, just money off a notional figure. Great business if you can get it.
 

mmttww

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,000
Manchester_sky_blue said:
Quoted the wrong post
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hamertime

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,001
Manchester_sky_blue said:
We can't register any more players in our squad until the summer transfer window opens. Regardless of whether we recalled him or playoffs etc etc, none of that makes any difference. He won't be able to play for us until next season.
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How do we know he wasn’t registered, then loaned out? Don’t bother responding because at least i have hope then.
 
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Astute

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,002
Grendel said:
It isn’t actually costing them anything
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So accepting 750k less to keep him for the rest of the season isn't costing them anything?

What a bloody idiot.
 
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Astute

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,003
hamertime said:
How do we know he wasn’t registered, then loaned out? Don’t bother responding because at least i have hope then.
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We haven't paid for him yet. We pay for him at the end of the season.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,004
Astute said:
So accepting 750k less to keep him for the rest of the season isn't costing them anything?

What a bloody idiot.
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They aren’t paying any money - it’s ICU The Sequal
 
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hamertime

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,005
Astute said:
We haven't paid for him yet. We pay for him at the end of the season.
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Had to piss on my chips didn’t you…
 

Astute

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,006
hamertime said:
Had to piss on my chips didn’t you…
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Sorry to point out you're hoping for the impossible
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,007
Astute said:
We haven't paid for him yet. We pay for him at the end of the season.
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Which may be a lesson in taking the money whilst it’s on offer. Or for us, it is risky business to allow an asset to play for another club.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,008
ATM I don’t think it’s a shrewd signing at all. Smacks of a desperate last minute panic buy to have let him go back out on loan. I’d have pulled the plug personally.
 
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hamertime

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,009
Tommo1993 said:
ATM I don’t think it’s a shrewd signing at all. Smacks of a desperate last minute panic buy to have let him go back out on loan. I’d have pulled the plug personally.
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I agree, got to accept it and move on.
 

Matt smith

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,010
Tommo1993 said:
ATM I don’t think it’s a shrewd signing at all. Smacks of a desperate last minute panic buy to have let him go back out on loan. I’d have pulled the plug personally.
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Even though they contacted them about him a couple weeks before we actually signed him
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,011
Astute said:
We haven't paid for him yet. We pay for him at the end of the season.
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Which proves they aren’t paying £50k a game for him
 

Tommo1993

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,012
Matt smith said:
Even though they contacted them about him a couple weeks before we actually signed him
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Staff and management can say anything they want to pull the wool and not make it look rushed. The loan thing is still stupid.
 

Alkhen

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,013
Tommo1993 said:
ATM I don’t think it’s a shrewd signing at all. Smacks of a desperate last minute panic buy to have let him go back out on loan. I’d have pulled the plug personally.
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What are you on about?? The fact we were prepared to loan back shows It's literally the opposite of being desperate. Desperate would be chucking money at anyone to get a player in the door. Mental take
 
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Astute

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,014
Tommo1993 said:
ATM I don’t think it’s a shrewd signing at all. Smacks of a desperate last minute panic buy to have let him go back out on loan. I’d have pulled the plug personally.
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We had been after him for a fair bit. Their chairman made a promise to their manager that nobody was leaving before the end of the season. We only gave up right at the end.

He is/was their player. We couldn't set the rules. Just like when we sold Gyokeres and Hamer. We were in charge and they had to agree with our terms. We were not in charge just because we're the bigger club.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Feb 10, 2024
  • #1,015
Alkhen said:
What are you on about?? The fact we were prepared to loan back shows It's literally the opposite of being desperate. Desperate would be chucking money at anyone to get a player in the door. Mental take
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Need cover in his position, but we’re happy to not have him now.

Nah.
 
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