All trueHonestly you reckon what he says is believable. He’s a wannabe manger
Yes could see him taking over after LampardHonestly you reckon what he says is believable. He’s a wannabe manger
SaddleSo he didn't pay for the pitch. Can't remember who on here was adamant they he did?
Yes I wouldAlthough we are all Skyblue on here , how many would honestly contribute towards ( at the time ) a basket case of a club ,with kit , travel , changing rooms ,etc etc if you had the wealth to do so ?
It’d prob depend on how wealthy you were. If I only had a mill i probably would be very cautious! If it was 10mill then no doubt I prob wouldAlthough we are all Skyblue on here , how many would honestly contribute towards ( at the time ) a basket case of a club ,with kit , travel , changing rooms ,etc etc if you had the wealth to do so ?
If you're buying tangible products I don't see why you wouldn't. If I was being asked to buy shares on a promise of a future return I wouldn't.
I’d want to talk to a Turf Accountant first.It’d prob depend on how wealthy you were. If I only had a mill i probably would be very cautious! If it was 10mill then no doubt I prob would
Saddle
For a lot of us having money to chuck at the club would have just been swallowed up in player wages or paying debts.
Where Overson made a difference was having the experience and contacts to do tangible things like fixing up Ryton , buying IPads etc
Glad looking back we didn’t end up with a Hoffman/Overson/Elliot combination running the club though
The point was that most people would have made a donation and left it at that- Overson clearly wanted a level of control over his investment. Without that the club probably would never have bought the ipads.It’s a good job we had a guy with contacts to get us iPads. They only sell those things to a select few.
Why do you think we appointed Rhys Carr?It’s a good job we had a guy with contacts to get us iPads. They only sell those things to a select few.
Good riddance to bad blood.Once again underlines how bad SISU were.
Many towards the end began defending them, suggesting they'd learnt lessons etc.
It's a shambles that so much was left to rot and that they had to rely on a relatively wealthy local business man.
Very different Northampton to BirminghamOnce again underlines how bad SISU were.
Many towards the end began defending them, suggesting they'd learnt lessons etc.
It's a shambles that so much was left to rot and that they had to rely on a relatively wealthy local business man.
Without Robins, Boddy and Ovie, this club may have dropped lower.
Very different Northampton to Birmingham
AbsolutelyOf course, but the fact the club had to rely on local people to pay for the basics like coach travel is dreadful.
I know some of that and agree with a lot of what you’ve said thereFelt it was a pretty unsatisfying interview and a lot of detail was left on the table.
For example - why weren't Hoffman and Joy/SISU getting on - why specifically did they not want to name a price for the club?
At a certain point, it sounded like SISU basically gave Boddy a very fixed budget which on some occasions didn't cover salaries(!) and left them to it - would love to understand more of the specifics there about how that arrangement was done.
When they talked about the Doug King era, Richard was super complementary but again, would love to hear more about that takeover process and what went on from his perspective and the various other bidders who surely he must have been connected with.
Robins talked about a bit, but not in great detail and 0 mention of Adi.
Richard sounds like a lovely guy and I think its clear we all owe him a debt of gratitude and many pints because without folks like him throwing money into the SISU pit who knows how much worse it could have been, just wish there was a bit more detail, a lot of the answers felt pretty monosyllabic and light on detail.
I can't say I would do the same with my own money, but the way he drew a line in the sand in his head I think was very wise - that he'd only spend on tangible things and never player or staff wages. You have to say though, when SISU / Boddy / Robins know there is someone who will do that - doesn't that just allow them to focus the money they do have on things like wages, knowing Richard will foot the bill for other stuff? No clue was scale of money we're talking here...
I think it sounds as if his time and contacts were almost as valuable as his money at times. The logistics of taking players cars to games and such like of which I'm aware from another mate who did similar. Not working and having that time to invest is probably more than most of us in the rat race can manage, even without any money.Felt it was a pretty unsatisfying interview and a lot of detail was left on the table.
For example - why weren't Hoffman and Joy/SISU getting on - why specifically did they not want to name a price for the club?
At a certain point, it sounded like SISU basically gave Boddy a very fixed budget which on some occasions didn't cover salaries(!) and left them to it - would love to understand more of the specifics there about how that arrangement was done.
When they talked about the Doug King era, Richard was super complementary but again, would love to hear more about that takeover process and what went on from his perspective and the various other bidders who surely he must have been connected with.
Robins talked about a bit, but not in great detail and 0 mention of Adi.
Richard sounds like a lovely guy and I think its clear we all owe him a debt of gratitude and many pints because without folks like him throwing money into the SISU pit who knows how much worse it could have been, just wish there was a bit more detail, a lot of the answers felt pretty monosyllabic and light on detail.
I can't say I would do the same with my own money, but the way he drew a line in the sand in his head I think was very wise - that he'd only spend on tangible things and never player or staff wages. You have to say though, when SISU / Boddy / Robins know there is someone who will do that - doesn't that just allow them to focus the money they do have on things like wages, knowing Richard will foot the bill for other stuff? No clue was scale of money we're talking here...
No, Goddens fee came from selling Chaplin.Didn’t he pay for Godden’s transfer fee?
I seem to remember in Godden’s leaving message referencing something along those lines.
certainly involved in something.
You're right, some of it didn't sound like $$$ per se, but just time and connections. That said, if I had that sort of money you're mentioning - as you say, 1M invested into the sort of stuff he was talking about would have gone a long way back then, compared to now - and would be nothing to someone with 200x that net worth who is a city fan. I was assuming wealth of like 10m in my head.I think it sounds as if his time and contacts were almost as valuable as his money at times. The logistics of taking players cars to games and such like of which I'm aware from another mate who did similar. Not working and having that time to invest is probably more than most of us in the rat race can manage, even without any money.
In terms of other bidders to King, I don't know if there were any. I think it was as much timing and that Doug was owed a debt by SISU which he used as either a bargaining chip or accepted the club as a payment. Remember there was that extra 15% or so at first.
On the fall out with Joy / Hoffman, I think that was to do with Wasps and /or Higgs/council being involved in the consortium which they denied, but RO all but confirmed to be true.
On the money front whatever he gave was generous and important to keep us going, but I think only small change to him. I see him regularly at away games and knew he was loaded, but didn't realise just how much, until I heard this podcast then Googled him. According to the CET article he sold his business for £208m, so even if his investment amounted to over £1m it's nice, but not going to give him any pain and I reckon most of would if we could.
I think they all got fairly close to him and used Marshy for a lot of what they needed but didn't want to ask. Marshy then overshared with him (and others) but probably wouldn't have been an issue if they hadn't all 'told a few in confidence' who then splashed it on social media and wider. Probably why they had to get rid of him as an example, because the Kitch>Fadz>Overson link probably leaked as much if not more, but easier and cheaper to scapegoat the kit man.
Whatever the history, we're lucky to have him (and others) around, although I don't think we're dissimilar to lots of other lower league clubs (that we were at the time), with dual roles etc and shoestring budgets.
Hopefully we get promoted in the summer and never need to worry about this kind of thing again.
With charity I agree, in this case he did as he said, took the noise and interference away. Completely different scenarios and requirements. Being visible and hands on help, sometimes at speed, was what was needed and he couldn't have achieved that from anonymity.
With all due respect to Overson for the good work he’s done in funding the club during its rough times, there is something to be said for benefactors remaining anonymous
Unless it's Ashley. He met the running costs of the CBS during the admin period to ensure he was the preferred bidder.
With all due respect to Overson for the good work he’s done in funding the club during its rough times, there is something to be said for benefactors remaining anonymous
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