England v Uruguay (4 Viewers)
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WONDERLAMPS
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4-0 england
bringbackrattles
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Rooney on the bench I reckon.
I'd put Lambert upfront with Sturridge and yes 4-4-2.
Otis
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Draw will be fine, but I think we will win.
I'd be inclined to play Rooney, but in something more like his normal position. If we can't accommodate him there I would drop him.
I'd also go for a a very attacking line up and would field both Sterling and Oxlade-Chamberlain in the side. Scare the living daylights out of their defence.
I'd be inclined to play Rooney, but in something more like his normal position. If we can't accommodate him there I would drop him.
I'd also go for a a very attacking line up and would field both Sterling and Oxlade-Chamberlain in the side. Scare the living daylights out of their defence.
Paxman II
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bringbackrattles
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SkyBlue_Bear83
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Would probably have to go 442 to accommodate Rooney as Sturridge can't be dropped, I think Rooney is best playing at striker right up the top and dropping deep sometimes. I hear a lot of people saying his best position is number 10 behind the striker but he seems to find less space when he plays there and the opposition midfield crowd him out of this area when he plays there. I think he is better staying further up field occupying the centre halves and then occasionally dropping deep when he spots the free space to exploit. This also gives the problem to centre halves, do they go with him when he drops or pass him onto the midfielders and makes him harder for the opposition to track him, you don't really have this when he plays behind the striker as the defensive midfielder will almost always be picking him up.
---------------Hart
Johnson---Cahill---Jagielka--Baines
Sterling--Henderson--Gerrard--Lallana
-----------Sturridge--Rooney
Could possibly go something like this
-------------Hart
Johnson--Cahill--Jagielka--Baines
--------------Gerrard
-------Henderson--Wilshere (Or any other midfielder of your choice)
-------Sturridge-----Sterling
----------------Rooney
Almost 433 but with Sturridge and Sterling playing very narrow and close to Rooney
Otherwise would have to go something like
---------------Hart
Johnson---Cahill---Jagielka--Baines
--------Henderson--Gerrard
Welbeck---------Sterling----Lallana
---------------Sturridge
I don't think we can play Rooney wide left again, he isn't athletic enough to get up and down the left flank and can't beat the full back
---------------Hart
Johnson---Cahill---Jagielka--Baines
Sterling--Henderson--Gerrard--Lallana
-----------Sturridge--Rooney
Could possibly go something like this
-------------Hart
Johnson--Cahill--Jagielka--Baines
--------------Gerrard
-------Henderson--Wilshere (Or any other midfielder of your choice)
-------Sturridge-----Sterling
----------------Rooney
Almost 433 but with Sturridge and Sterling playing very narrow and close to Rooney
Otherwise would have to go something like
---------------Hart
Johnson---Cahill---Jagielka--Baines
--------Henderson--Gerrard
Welbeck---------Sterling----Lallana
---------------Sturridge
I don't think we can play Rooney wide left again, he isn't athletic enough to get up and down the left flank and can't beat the full back
Otis
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stupot07
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Ox only joined in training tonight, I think they said on itv he won't be fit for Thursday.
I think it will be a tough game and we'll struggle to get the same intensity, everything was geared/psyched up for the Italy match I think it would have took a lot out of the mentally. A draw will do but fear we will get beat again.
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I think it will be a tough game and we'll struggle to get the same intensity, everything was geared/psyched up for the Italy match I think it would have took a lot out of the mentally. A draw will do but fear we will get beat again.
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bringbackrattles
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Otis
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What Rooney brings you is a degree of intelligence (well on the pitch at least.) He is great at finding and creating space and at switching play too. An on form Rooney is an advantage to this England side.
Trouble is, at the moment he is out of form. Not convinced with any degree of certainty that merely playing him in his preferred role will see him suddenly bouncing back into form.
I would start with him though up front in a 2 along with Sturridge.
Otis
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Ox only joined in training tonight, I think they said on itv he won't be fit for Thursday.
I think it will be a tough game and we'll struggle to get the same intensity, everything was geared/psyched up for the Italy match I think it would have took a lot out of the mentally. A draw will do but fear we will get beat again.
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I only watch the Beeb and Hodgson said on the Beeb he should be fit.
---------------Hart
Johnson---Cahill---Jagielka--Baines
--------Henderson--Gerrard
Welbeck---------Sterling----Lallana
---------------Sturridge
I agree with this team ....
I also agree that Rooney is out of sorts..imo he's a very very good bread and butter player on his day , but the days of bicycle kick winners seem to be behind him
Johnson---Cahill---Jagielka--Baines
--------Henderson--Gerrard
Welbeck---------Sterling----Lallana
---------------Sturridge
I agree with this team ....
I also agree that Rooney is out of sorts..imo he's a very very good bread and butter player on his day , but the days of bicycle kick winners seem to be behind him
sw88
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I don't think the Uruguay defenders will know what to do with Lambert.
There's too much hype over Rooney, and sooner or later he'll go into his selfish mode; trying to do everything on his own and not using his team mates.
For me he needs dropping. Bring him off the bench if need be. That will really upset him! Can you imagine an angry shrek coming off the bench?
There's too much hype over Rooney, and sooner or later he'll go into his selfish mode; trying to do everything on his own and not using his team mates.
For me he needs dropping. Bring him off the bench if need be. That will really upset him! Can you imagine an angry shrek coming off the bench?
SkyBlue_Bear83
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What hype over Rooney? Pretty much 95% of of England are questioning his place in the team.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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I agree with that, which is why I think his best position is to play him at striker with freedom to drift, roam and drop into the free spaces.
Once you say pin him to say left side or in the area behind the striker than you lose a large part of his game.
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stupot07
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The hype from the other 5% then
Yeah that'll be the pundits and ex-players.
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Paxman II
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I'm getting persuaded about Rooney ever so slightly now. I think Roy will pick him to play. That said I only hope it's not on the left and we also get Llanna in from the start please. Otherwise the same team.
If I was brave I'd drop Rooney put Llanna in and Shaw in place of Baines. Drop Gerrard from that role he plays and put the Ox in with a 4-4-2 and give em their heads! Could be just what is needed to lighten the mood and see a new sensational team shock the world with pace to burn, skill on the ball and a striker who will score.
If I was brave I'd drop Rooney put Llanna in and Shaw in place of Baines. Drop Gerrard from that role he plays and put the Ox in with a 4-4-2 and give em their heads! Could be just what is needed to lighten the mood and see a new sensational team shock the world with pace to burn, skill on the ball and a striker who will score.
Otis
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I too was thinking it might well be worth having a gamble on Shaw.
He's bigger and stronger than Baines I feel.
stupot07
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Agreed, 442 doesn't work and was identified as one of the reasons we've failed at the last few tournaments.
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SkyBlue_Bear83
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Can you fit Sturridge and Rooney into a team which doesn't play 2 upfront or should it be a choice between Sturridge and Rooney?
Otis
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Agreed, 442 doesn't work and was identified as one of the reasons we've failed at the last few tournaments.
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We fail at every tournament. Doesn't matter what formation we play.
ointlaugh:SkyblueBazza
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But all the times he was by-passed we didn't score, 1 of the times we didn't by-pass him we did. I think scoring is better myself :-/
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SkyblueBazza
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We fail at every tournament. Doesn't matter what formation we play.
Everyone except the ultimate winners fail. Little things make a difference - like putting the ball in the box from a corner rather than putting it behind the goal; tracking back to defend; being ready to play & adapt to the conditions (like the Swiss/Germans/Portuguese/Italians/French have managed to do...but we haven't)
PUSB
Otis
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Yes indeed, but there are degrees of failure.
Failing by losing out in the final isn't quite the same as failing to get out of the qualifying group or losing in the round of 16.
Covstu
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personally think if he go out all guns blazing then we will be beaten. He need to play a similar style to saturday and we will be fine. We have a decent squad and i think we have good options on the bench but my only fear is that we do not have the ability to turn games around if we are one or two down.
Youaregay will come at us but with less arrogance than they did against CR but their back four were piss poor and we need to capitalise on that. Suarez has a massive part to play here, he definately starts against us.
Youaregay will come at us but with less arrogance than they did against CR but their back four were piss poor and we need to capitalise on that. Suarez has a massive part to play here, he definately starts against us.
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Otis
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I only got as far as 'I would love a massive Stevie G' and then I stopped reading.