Covstu
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No there isn’t but clearly not there to watch football and have a good time
No there isn’t but clearly not there to watch football and have a good timeThey didn't look much tbh.
The process worked tonight but for me it’s more about the consequences after the game. If nothing happens then there is no pointIMO England should have walked off. The issue has to be forced otherwise UEFA will do the absolute minimum they can get away with again.
Also why are the police not in there arresting people when ITV are showing clear pictures of people with uncovered faces making Nazi salutes and monkey noises?
Can see it kicking off after the match unfortunately with the news of the death of an England fan and the things that have gone on during the game.
We also should remember our own minority of morons who behave offensively and disrespectfully to different cultures at every away game
Of course. Equal seething from me.
Of course and as someone has pointed out on twitter hard for the FA to take the moral high ground with UEFA when they fined Huddersfield more for having a Paddy Power logo on their shirt for a pre-season game than they did Millwall for racist chanting.We also should remember our own minority of morons who behave offensively and disrespectfully to different cultures at every away game
Sadly in some Eastern European countries not necessarily a criminal offence. And many where it is illegal but not enforced. Bulgaria has several openly racist political parties with MPs.IMO England should have walked off. The issue has to be forced otherwise UEFA will do the absolute minimum they can get away with again.
Also why are the police not in there arresting people when ITV are showing clear pictures of people with uncovered faces making Nazi salutes and monkey noises?
Can see it kicking off after the match unfortunately with the news of the death of an England fan and the things that have gone on during the game.
Yep down to UEFA to follow through and take decisive action.The process worked tonight but for me it’s more about the consequences after the game. If nothing happens then there is no point
Angers me that most of us just stand by and listen when it happens at our away games. Not anymore, I can’t stand another second it.
Angers me that most of us just stand by and listen when it happens at our away games. Not anymore, I can’t stand another second it.
Have you heard racist abuse at our away games? Not heard it myself but I only go to a few each year and tend to sit away from the main crowd where possible. Awful if true.
I hear it everywhere I go. And I always call it out. And make people aware I’m mixed race myself. I refuse to believe white people when they say they don’t hear it. Heard it in the Albany club last week. At the match last week. City arms last week. My own great grandfather on my dads side refused to ever see me before me died. I used to get the piss taken out of me at school when I was 4 years old because my black mum would pick me up. It’s fucking everywhere.
fucking raging
Can't even begin to imagine what that must be like. Really struggle to get my head around people being racist, just makes no sense to me at all.I hear it everywhere I go. And I always call it out. And make people aware I’m mixed race myself. I refuse to believe white people when they say they don’t hear it. Heard it in the Albany club last week. At the match last week. City arms last week. My own great grandfather on my dads side refused to ever see me before me died. I used to get the piss taken out of me at school when I was 4 years old because my black mum would pick me up. It’s fucking everywhere.
I know it’s always been around, but I really feel despite efforts and demonstrations to stop it, it’s going backwards and I’m hearing more of it.
There was some racial slurring at Rotherham. It was even caught on cam. There was some in front of us at Oxford too
Can't even begin to imagine what that must be like. Really struggle to get my head around people being racist, just makes no sense to me at all.
I know it’s always been around, but I really feel despite efforts and demonstrations to stop it, it’s going backwards and I’m hearing more of it.
Funny thing is the lot saluting would be one of the first lot rounded up by the nazis back in the day.
Arrest them for what? You are assuming they have done something illegal in Bulgaria.IMO England should have walked off. <snip>
Also why are the police not in there arresting people when ITV are showing clear pictures of people with uncovered faces making Nazi salutes and monkey noises?
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Arrest them for what? You are assuming they have done something illegal in Bulgaria.
And abandoning the game would be exactly what they wanted.
Bulgaria is the most racist, backwards country I’ve ever been to. I was considering a holiday here but I definitely won’t be doing that now. The racism is not a football problem. It’s institutionalised within their society. I’ve seen, heard and experienced so much this trip that has concerned and disappointed me that it’d take me too long to write it all so I’ve linked in some tweets (the last one is unbelievable) below to sum it all up. Mainly about the Bulgarian part of the trip but also the attitudes of some towards England fans and the problems that need stamping out within those that travel. In that respect above everything else it needs to be remembered that we’re here to support England. Too many are now turning up thinking it’s acceptable to bring their club or someone else’s into proceedings. Leave your club shirt and chanting at home. Both are not wanted or needed either at home or away games. It gives the opportunity for problems to arise.
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Most concerning of all. We genuinely couldn’t believe what we were seeing:
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I hear it everywhere I go. And I always call it out. And make people aware I’m mixed race myself. I refuse to believe white people when they say they don’t hear it. Heard it in the Albany club last week. At the match last week. City arms last week. My own great grandfather on my dads side refused to ever see me before he died. I used to get the piss taken out of me at school when I was 4 years old because my black mum would pick me up. It’s fucking everywhere.
fucking raging
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Stay classy mate.
I'll have my "old fogey" rant on this and blame internet & social media.Couple of years ago I’d have argued with you, very rarely heard outright racism, possibly because as a white guy that’s not where my attention is tuned.
Since 2016 though it’s becoming rife. Heard one person say “yeah I’m racist so what?” The other day was having a conversation about Brexit and someone actually said “I just voted Leave to get rid of the blacks”. I’m ashamed to admit I was too stunned to say anything and the conversation moved on, I won’t make that mistake again.
What the fuck is happening? I thought we agreed on this decades ago and it all seems to be going backwards. From what you say maybe it’s just people are bolder now.
Really sorry you have to go through that mate.
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