England to play home games away from Wembley (1 Viewer)

CJ_covblaze · Oct 20, 2015

Finally!!!

Houchens Head · Oct 20, 2015

....... and the home games are being played where? Hampden Park maybe? Cardiff City Stadium? Croke Park, Dublin? Hey! How about the Ricoh?

Terry Gibson's perm · Oct 20, 2015

CJ_covblaze said:
Finally!!!

So freeing up the ground for its future use as the home of an nfl franchise

chiefdave · Oct 21, 2015

Terry Gibson's perm said:
So freeing up the ground for its future use as the home of an nfl franchise

Isn't that going to White Hart Lane?

Joy Division · Oct 21, 2015

chiefdave said:
Isn't that going to White Hart Lane?

It is indeed going to be the new White Hart Lane

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/08/tottenham-nfl-matches-new-stadium-10-year-deal

Terry Gibson's perm · Oct 21, 2015

That's for the regular games that are currently happening at Wembley, the actual franchise when it arrives would almost certainly be at Wembley

Joy Division · Oct 21, 2015

I really doubt an NFL London franchise will ever materialise.

Captain Dart · Oct 21, 2015

Joy Division said:
I really doubt an NFL London franchise will ever materialise.

Maybe not but they are trying to internationalise the game, meanwhile they play some games at Wembley and New White Hart Lane.

Maybe it will cost less to see the NFL games than football at than Arsenal.

PS Where and how often are England likely to play home games away from Wembley, apart from no doubt at Manchester?

Nick · Oct 21, 2015

The last few England games theres been a massive NFL badge on the pitch still

Terry Gibson's perm · Oct 21, 2015

Joy Division said:
I really doubt an NFL London franchise will ever materialise.

I would be more shocked if it didn't happen as the time of the games allows for an early start in the US so they can have all day NFL pleasing the tv exec's, I think by 2020 there will be a team there.

Joy Division · Oct 21, 2015

Either way, I doubt Wembley will be in the NFL's long term plans. Too much of an issue with revenue from the corporate side which is where most NFL teams make their money, with the Club Wembley situation its hard for NFL teams to maximse on this, WHL will be built with NFL in mind with better corporate options, dedicated changing rooms for larger squads and a retractable pitch, so NFL teams can play on the artificial surface without the disturbance for the football team.

Although the NFL are happy with the income from Wembley games, they have been actively pursuing alternative options for a number of years, its not ideal for the sport and it seems a big portion of the cost of the build for WHL has been funded by the NFL. Once this is built I dont think we will see NFL at Wembley any more.

And although the franchise question has been mooted for many years, I really think there are too many stumbling blocks for a regular team in England to be facing American teams.

Terry Gibson's perm · Oct 21, 2015

Joy Division said:
Either way, I doubt Wembley will be in the NFL's long term plans. Too much of an issue with revenue from the corporate side which is where most NFL teams make their money, with the Club Wembley situation its hard for NFL teams to maximse on this, WHL will be built with NFL in mind with better corporate options, dedicated changing rooms for larger squads and a retractable pitch, so NFL teams can play on the artificial surface without the disturbance for the football team.

Although the NFL are happy with the income from Wembley games, they have been actively pursuing alternative options for a number of years, its not ideal for the sport and it seems a big portion of the cost of the build for WHL has been funded by the NFL. Once this is built I dont think we will see NFL at Wembley any more.

And although the franchise question has been mooted for many years, I really think there are too many stumbling blocks for a regular team in England to be facing American teams.

How long are the club wembley things for?

On back to the future day shall we resume this in 5 years time

Captain Dart · Oct 21, 2015

That Levy boy is a canny bugger

chiefdave · Oct 21, 2015

Joy Division said:
Too much of an issue with revenue from the corporate side which is where most NFL teams make their money, with the Club Wembley situation its hard for NFL teams to maximse on this

So what you're saying is without the pie money the numbers don't add up

Covstu · Oct 21, 2015

chiefdave said:
So what you're saying is without the pie money the numbers don't add up

surely its hot dogs being an american sport???

fernandopartridge · Oct 21, 2015

If Wembley is going to be mostly vacant, I know a belting rugby team who have been searching hard for a home in the London area.

Covstu · Oct 21, 2015

I dont mind moving the games for friendlies but i think 'real' games need to be played at Wembley. I understand the geography is a bitch but there is nothing like having a day out at wembley.

Joy Division · Oct 21, 2015

chiefdave said:
So what you're saying is without the pie money the numbers don't add up

No, Corporate. i.e executive box packages etc. One of the only areas that are sold exclusively to to the team. There is a weird system with ticket sales as they are spread out between other NFL teams

I_Saw_Shaw_Score · Oct 21, 2015

Covstu said:
I dont mind moving the games for friendlies but i think 'real' games need to be played at Wembley. I understand the geography is a bitch but there is nothing like having a day out at wembley.

With England being top seeds in qualifying surely the 'big' teams only play on English soil in friendlies?

CJ_covblaze · Oct 21, 2015

Covstu said:
I dont mind moving the games for friendlies but i think 'real' games need to be played at Wembley. I understand the geography is a bitch but there is nothing like having a day out at wembley.

Can't wait to see games played away from the place. It's dismal at times. A lot of ESTC members only go to get the caps. Some just walk in and straight out if they can't find anyone to scan/use (for free) their ticket. No doubt we'll end up playing at Old Trafford. No other ground is close to being big enough.

Covstu · Oct 21, 2015

I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
With England being top seeds in qualifying surely the 'big' teams only play on English soil in friendlies?

Fair comment

Covstu · Oct 21, 2015

CJ_covblaze said:
Can't wait to see games played away from the place. It's dismal at times. A lot of ESTC members only go to get the caps. Some just walk in and straight out if they can't find anyone to scan/use (for free) their ticket. No doubt we'll end up playing at Old Trafford. No other ground is close to being big enough.

This is the issue though, take the two in Manchester and maybe Newcastle there really isn't a ground large enough to cater for it unless they are happy with 35-40k

chiefdave · Oct 21, 2015

Covstu said:
This is the issue though, take the two in Manchester and maybe Newcastle there really isn't a ground large enough to cater for it unless they are happy with 35-40k

Imagine it will be St James, Anfield, Old Trafford and / or Emirates and Villa Park for the bigger games and then the smaller friendlies going to smaller grounds. Ricoh will probably lose out by being too close to Villa Park.

CJ_covblaze · Oct 21, 2015

Covstu said:
This is the issue though, take the two in Manchester and maybe Newcastle there really isn't a ground large enough to cater for it unless they are happy with 35-40k

I do agree there. We're one of very few nations that's bothered about internationals away from tourneys. The game in Turin and the upcoming one in Alicante go some way to proving it.

Covstu · Oct 21, 2015

chiefdave said:
Imagine it will be St James, Anfield, Old Trafford and / or Emirates and Villa Park for the bigger games and then the smaller friendlies going to smaller grounds. Ricoh will probably lose out by being too close to Villa Park.

Surely they won't touch Emirates? Might as well stay at Wembley!

chiefdave · Oct 21, 2015

Covstu said:
Surely they won't touch Emirates? Might as well stay at Wembley!

I see you spotted my deliberate mistake, well done! I of course meant Etihad. Once they've started using other grounds wouldn't be too shocked to see them use Emirates, Olympic Stadium or WHL when its rebuilt if that works better for scheduling than Wembley.

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