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England - Lee Carsley Era (7 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Evo1883
  • Start date Sep 7, 2024
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #211
What an amazing clearance!
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #212
Is it too early to say that Lee carsleys England aren't really inspiring me , we look pretty awful
 

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #213
Pickford saved by the flag there.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #214
Drag the prick off.
 

ccfcchris

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #215
We're playing shite.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #216
ccfcchris said:
We're playing shite.
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We were shite last game too
 

ccfcchris

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #217
Evo1883 said:
We were shite last game too
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Sorry we're playing a bit more shite.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #218
He's throwing matches to get the CBS Job I reckon!!
 

ccfcchris

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #219
We're getting worse.
 

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #220
Greece should be at least two up already. This is rubbish.
 

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #221
We look so bloody easy to play against… this is what the people wanted as opposed to what we had before tho
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #222
alexccfc99 said:
We look so bloody easy to play against… this is what the people wanted as opposed to what we had before tho
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Is it ? We couldn't carry on with Gareth

Whatever this is nobody asked for , we had a good 1st half against Ireland and that's it
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #223
The ground Foden covers in attack and getting back to help the defence is great.
 

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #224
Evo1883 said:
Is it ? We couldn't carry on with Gareth

Whatever this is nobody asked for , we had a good 1st half against Ireland and that's it
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People were bemoaning the fact we were too conservative - When in international football you have to be a bit conservative as in the end game you are playing football where you are potentially a defeat away from elimination

We look worryingly open and I don’t think we were all that in the last break other than the first half against Ireland as you said

This is what people wanted tho, they demanded attack minded open football
 

ccfcchris

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #225
alexccfc99 said:
People were bemoaning the fact we were too conservative - When in international football you have to be a bit conservative as in the end game you are playing football where you are potentially a defeat away from elimination

We look worryingly open and I don’t think we were all that in the last break other than the first half against Ireland as you said

This is what people wanted tho, they demanded attack minded open football
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I think we want something in the middle.
 
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Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #226
Think it's fair to say the no-striker approach hasn't been an overwhelming success so far....
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #227
That was shite. Carsley has obviously thought, "hang on, our striker who spends most of his time in centre mid is injured, I know, I will play a centre mid as the striker."

It's all too narrow, no one is stretching play. Saka is often tucked inside, which is fine if you have an overlapping full back bit both fullbacks want to play in centre mid, so there's no width too.

Itv just showing a clip of Trent all the way over in left midfield next to Lewis. There's no structure. In fact most of the chance Greece have had Trent has been nowhere near right back.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #228
this is shit. can we get someone in charge that knows how to play entertaining football
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #229
alexccfc99 said:
People were bemoaning the fact we were too conservative - When in international football you have to be a bit conservative as in the end game you are playing football where you are potentially a defeat away from elimination

We look worryingly open and I don’t think we were all that in the last break other than the first half against Ireland as you said

This is what people wanted tho, they demanded attack minded open football
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You don't have to be conservative though ,Spain for example won the euros playing attacking and so did Italy
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #230
Playing a false 9 is fine, if you have lots of runners making runs in behind you, but Foden, Cole, Saka and Gordon want the ball facing goal to run with it
 
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no_loyalty

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #231
One day England might play to their strengths with entertaining attacking free flowing football.
 

no_loyalty

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #232
Get Ollie Watkins on and have a go ffs.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #233
Cole Palmer in the CDM making a covering tackle as Greece break whilst Lewis and Trent are in the box
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #234
1-0 Greece
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #235
Think it's safe to say I wont be advocating for Lee carlsey after the opening few games

Players look clueless
 
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alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #236
Evo1883 said:
You don't have to be conservative though ,Spain for example won the euros playing attacking and so did Italy
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Tbh whether you like Southgate or not, there was not a fat lot wrong with what England were doing, granted we probably needed a bit more tactical nous and in game management to get us over the line but we were so close

We just seem to have needlessly ripped that up and gone back to the drawing board when in my opinion we didn’t need to
 

ccfcchris

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #237
And Greece deserve it.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #238
alexccfc99 said:
Tbh whether you like Southgate or not, there was not a fat lot wrong with what England were doing, granted we probably needed a bit more tactical nous and in game management to get us over the line but we were so close

We just seem to have needlessly ripped that up and gone back to the drawing board when in my opinion we didn’t need to
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We were shite IMHO, I get you went to watch them but he just had no clue how to win big matches in general .
The holland game was the only outlier there in a tournament where we were fucking woeful

Anyway he's gone
 
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ccfcchris

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #239
England just faffing about and complicating things.
 

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #240
Evo1883 said:
We were shite IMHO, I get you went to watch them but he just had no clue how to win big matches in general .
The holland game was the only outlier there in a tournament where we were fucking woeful

Anyway he's gone
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He got us to two finals - Hence why we didn’t need to go back to the drawing board and as I said, we just needed a bit more tactical know how to get us over the line as opposed to completely ripping up the system
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #241
alexccfc99 said:
He got us to two finals - Hence why we didn’t need to go back to the drawing board and as I said, we just needed a bit more tactical know how to get us over the line as opposed to completely ripping up the system
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A lot of luck ,.we couldn't carry on playing like that , we should have been beaten well before the final in the last tournament .

No top sides play like England and win things
 

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #242
Evo1883 said:
A lot of luck ,.we couldn't carry on playing like that , we should have been beaten well before the final in the last tournament .

No top sides play like England and win things
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You don’t get to finals on luck

Should have gone all in for Tuchel or Poch but our fans and press wouldn’t have ever took to them cause of two wars that happened last century
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #243
alexccfc99 said:
You don’t get to finals on luck

Should have gone all in for Tuchel or Poch but our fans and press wouldn’t have ever took to them cause of two wars that happened last century
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We were very lucky last tournament .. we were diabolical in several matches
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #244
We are so fucking narrow and have nothing upfront. Again Palmer and Foden having to make tackles deep to stop a counter attack, when the 2 full backs are virtually up front.
 

alexccfc99

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #245
Evo1883 said:
We were very lucky last tournament .. we were diabolical in several matches
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That’s like saying Cov got lucky to go up in 2018 because we got beat at home by Newport, Yeovil and Forest Green
 
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