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Gazolba

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #1,121
Same team for final test, so another defeat is my guess.
Maybe we should open with Leach and Overton and just tell them to block everything.
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Sep 11, 2019
  • #1,122
Roy's been dropped, along with Overton. Curran and Woakes replacing them.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 11, 2019
  • #1,123
Bit harsh on Overton IMO
 

Gazolba

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  • Sep 11, 2019
  • #1,124
Paul Anthony said:
Roy's been dropped, along with Overton. Curran and Woakes replacing them.
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Positive changes I'd say.
Let's just hope they get the batting order right.
 

Gazolba

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  • Sep 11, 2019
  • #1,125
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Bit harsh on Overton IMO
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Why? His figures were 2 for 107.
He's primarily a bowler remember.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 11, 2019
  • #1,126
Gazolba said:
Positive changes I'd say.
Let's just hope they get the batting order right.
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Assassinating Smith is about the only chance
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 11, 2019
  • #1,127
Gazolba said:
Why? His figures were 2 for 107.
He's primarily a bowler remember.
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Just seems a tiny bit harsh after only being given the one test in which all of he bowlers returned quite poor figures. Pretty much the entire batting line-up shouldn't be there on those grounds.

I admit I do think Curran and Woakes are better overall so I like them in the team (esp Curran on his home ground) but Woakes was given the first three tests and didn't exactly do great shakes either so I'd have maybe persisted with Overton to give him more experience.

It's not a major thing, it's just if they decided to make the change for the last test why change it back now? Unless Woakes had a small injury for the last test they didn't want to risk, or Overton has one now of course.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 12, 2019
  • #1,128
Am i the only one who thinks leach isnt that bad a batsman? Should be batting above archer in my eyes. Proven hes decent
 
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ccfc92

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #1,129
14/2 for Aus!
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #1,130
Saddlebrains said:
Am i the only one who thinks leach isnt that bad a batsman? Should be batting above archer in my eyes. Proven hes decent
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It’s a bit odd as until the test arena his stats have been useless
 
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xcraigx

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #1,131
I do like watching Leach bat. You sometimes get tailenders who seem to chuck their bat at anything and everything but Leach clearly values his wicket and will make bowlers work to get it.
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #1,132
Saddlebrains said:
Am i the only one who thinks leach isnt that bad a batsman? Should be batting above archer in my eyes. Proven hes decent
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I can see the merits in moving him up the order slightly, given how we've spent this entire series crying out for someone who could go in and just stay there, taking some pressure off our "better" batsmen and frustrating their bowling attack.
 

Covstu

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #1,133
Archer on fire, good innings for once!
 

Gazolba

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #1,134
Thank God for Archer!
What would we do without him?
I only wish he was a bit better with the bat.
 

Covstu

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #1,135
Curran was excellent aswell
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 13, 2019
  • #1,136
xcraigx said:
I do like watching Leach bat. You sometimes get tailenders who seem to chuck their bat at anything and everything but Leach clearly values his wicket and will make bowlers work to get it.
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He's got technical deficiencies but tries to bat properly. Others are technically brilliant but don't seem to try to bat properly and just end up swinging at things.
 

tisza

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #1,137
so 41 is the best opening partnership of this summer's Tests by any side.

Have enjoyed watching Cummins bowl this summer. A proper nasty fast bowler.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #1,138
tisza said:
so 41 is the best opening partnership of this summer's Tests by any side.

Have enjoyed watching Cummins bowl this summer. A proper nasty fast bowler.
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A rare batting positive in this series is Burns actually coming through, and justifying his place.

It's still not exactly a stellar average, but compared to everything around him, he's done alright!

Now we just need to find him a partner. Have visions of Denly doing just enough to cling on, and really not sure he's the answer.
 
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tisza

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #1,139
Deleted member 5849 said:
A rare batting positive in this series is Burns actually coming through, and justifying his place.

It's still not exactly a stellar average, but compared to everything around him, he's done alright!

Now we just need to find him a partner. Have visions of Denly doing just enough to cling on, and really not sure he's the answer.
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Basics are there with Burns - showed it in patches over the winter too. Does need to kick on.
Again it is still a very good Aussie new ball attack.
 

SBAndy

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #1,140
Deleted member 5849 said:
A rare batting positive in this series is Burns actually coming through, and justifying his place.

It's still not exactly a stellar average, but compared to everything around him, he's done alright!

Now we just need to find him a partner. Have visions of Denly doing just enough to cling on, and really not sure he's the answer.
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Really think Sibley will come in. Wouldn’t mind seeing Denly batting at 3 considering his last couple of performances. Root back to 4, drop one of Buttler and Bairstow. Also, is this the watershed moment for Anderson’s retirement?
 

tisza

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #1,141
Buttler a different player when he can come in at 220 odd for 4 and a lead of 300 on the board.
But then goes and throws it away
 

Covstu

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #1,142
Solid day which gives us 2 full days to go at em.. might get a draw out of this after all!
 

The Great Eastern

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #1,143
Covstu said:
Solid day which gives us 2 full days to go at em.. might get a draw out of this after all!
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Not a chance of this match being a draw given there are 2 full days play to go.
 

Paul Anthony

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #1,144
Shame for Denly not to get his century, but I think him and Burns have some potential as a partnership going forward.

I know Paine was a bit review happy in other tests this series, but now he's gone to the other extreme. Lucky for us, to get away with those two.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 14, 2019
  • #1,145
The Great Eastern said:
Not a chance of this match being a draw given there are 2 full days play to go.
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Think he meant draw the series
 

Covstu

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  • Sep 15, 2019
  • #1,146
Excellent performance and glad we secured the draw. Great end to a fantastic summer for the team
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 16, 2019
  • #1,147
Good to at least not lose the series.

Who would everyone's team of the tournament be?

For me:
Burns
Denly
Labuschagne
Smith
Root
Stokes
Bairstow (wk)
Cummins
Hazlewood
Archer
Lyon

Openers were all dire in the main but Burns and Denly were starting to settle in by the end of the tournament. Aussies were always terrible.

Main end batsmen had to be Smith, Labuschagne who look a composed and sensible batter when he came in for the injured Smith.

Final batting place is probably between Root and Wade, although neither were particularly great. Wade was terrible with the bat apart from his two centuries. Root got 4 50's but no tons, but he did take more catches and is a bit more useful as an emergency bowler. Looking at averages you could even say bringing in the likes of wither Marsh or Starc would be worthwhile ahead of either of them, with the added bonus of their bowling but as both only played one test it's hard to say they should get a place in the team.

Stokes was an effective middle order batsman and his ability to bowl as well just increases his value. Almost worth his place for Headingly alone.

Keeper - both were awful but Bairstow had a slightly better time with the bat and Paine's reviewing was terrible. I even thought of putting in Buttler even though he didn't keep wicket during the series but his averages were massaged due to some half decent scores in the last two tests playing more one-day like with the tail.

Cummins and Hazlewood have to be the two main quicks - by far the two most consistently effective.

Archer is third because he could be devastating in spells but was struggling with consistency and IMO we became over-reliant on him and over-used him. Batting he didn't look particularly great or disciplined but he does bring that air of excitement with him. Again you could say Marsh or Starc could be considered ahead of him but on one test probably not fair to drop him for them.

Spinner is a throw up. Similar overall averages considering Leach played one test less and he's got that cult hero status of sticking around with the bat, plus Lyon missed that chance at Headingley. Leach will be probably be the more memorable of the two from the series but ultimately Lyon was just a bit better.
 
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CrawleySkyBlue

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  • Sep 16, 2019
  • #1,148
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Good to at least not lose the series.

Who would everyone's team of the tournament be?

For me:
Burns
Denly
Labuschagne
Smith
Root
Stokes
Bairstow (wk)
Cummins
Hazlewood
Archer
Lyon

Openers were all dire in the main but Burns and Denly were starting to settle in by the end of the tournament. Aussies were always terrible.

Main end batsmen had to be Smith, Labuschagne who look a composed and sensible batter when he came in for the injured Smith.

Final batting place is probably between Root and Wade, although neither were particularly great. Wade was terrible with the bat apart from his two centuries. Root got 4 50's but no tons, but he did take more catches and is a bit more useful as an emergency bowler. Looking at averages you could even say bringing in the likes of wither Marsh or Starc would be worthwhile ahead of either of them, with the added bonus of their bowling but as both only played one test it's hard to say they should get a place in the team.

Stokes was an effective middle order batsman and his ability to bowl as well just increases his value. Almost worth his place for Headingly alone.

Keeper - both were awful but Bairstow had a slightly better time with the bat and Paine's reviewing was terrible. I even thought of putting in Buttler even though he didn't keep wicket during the series but his averages were massaged due to some half decent scores in the last two tests playing more one-day like with the tail.

Cummins and Hazlewood have to be the two main quicks - by far the two most consistently effective.

Archer is third because he could be devastating in spells but was struggling with consistency and IMO we became over-reliant on him and over-used him. Batting he didn't look particularly great or disciplined but he does bring that air of excitement with him. Again you could say Marsh or Starc could be considered ahead of him but on one test probably not fair to drop him for them.

Spinner is a throw up. Similar overall averages considering Leach played one test less and he's got that cult hero status of sticking around with the bat, plus Lyon missed that chance at Headingley. Leach will be probably be the more memorable of the two from the series but ultimately Lyon was just a bit better.
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Generally in agreement, although i’d say Broad has had a decent series and should be included in there somewhere.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 16, 2019
  • #1,149
CrawleySkyBlue said:
Generally in agreement, although i’d say Broad has had a decent series and should be included in there somewhere.
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The batsmen were pretty easy to decide but there was a case for most of the bowlers, inc Broad. who did take the most wickets for Eng but also played the most tests. If someone had chosen him instead of Archer I wouldn't have much of an issue, but I don't think either of them should be picked ahead of Cummins and Hazlewood and it didn't seem right to pick a team with no spinners other than part-timers.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 16, 2019
  • #1,150
Curran unlucky to miss out until final test
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Oct 7, 2019
  • #1,151
Silverwood new head coach must be a shortage of candidates
 

Covstu

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  • Oct 7, 2019
  • #1,152
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Silverwood new head coach must be a shortage of candidates
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Pleased it was an English appointment but doesn’t inspire me much
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 10, 2019
  • #1,153
It is possible to get him out

 
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